GOP Congressman Ready to Impeach Hillary Clinton on Day 1 after Elected

[dainthomas]

Emails. She lied, and mislead. She is far from stupid, she knew exactly what she was doing. Does that mean that should would be a bad President for it? No. But it means I trust her less.

Lol at trusting any politician.

 

[shira]

Emails. She lied, and mislead. She is far from stupid, she knew exactly what she was doing. Does that mean that should would be a bad President for it? No. But it means I trust her less.

Did she lie under oath? Because the last I heard, unless she was under oath when she lied, her lies don't constitute or crime (or even a misdemeanor).

As to politicians lying NOT under oath, that's a requirement for the job.

 

[realibrad]

Did she lie under oath? Because the last I heard, unless she was under oath when she lied, her lies don't constitute or crime (or even a misdemeanor).

As to politicians lying NOT under oath, that's a requirement for the job.

I don't get how you can stick to rational points in one thread, and then post this in this thread.

Did she break the rule? Yes, and she admitted it. Did she mislead? Yes. This is what they did to Bill too. They already knew what she did, and so they tried to catch her like they did Bill. Did she do some horrific thing? Not likely.

But, what does it matter if she was under oath. No matter how you look at this, it has to somewhat taint trust right? I'm not going to vote for any R that is running because I trust them even less, but lets not pretend that she was 100% truthful, she was not.

 

[Dannar26]

Since they can't win an election.. they'll try this hanky panky?

Conservaterrorists: Destroy democracy by any means possible!

Democracy...is that what buying votes with government hand outs is?

For srs. What major city *doesn't* vote Democrat primarily? I guess all those guys shooting each other, dealing drugs, ect. just happen to be voting due to intellectual reasons? Afterall, the Democrat party *is* about science and logic, right?

But hey. As long as you can win the popular vote by getting the scumbags to line up en masse, who cares, right? Heck, let's make it even easier and not even require them to go outside to get any form of ID either. Wouldn't want them to have to think about what they're doing, amirite?

You guys aren't unintelligent folk...your arguments indicate thought and planning, and some of you are very good (master?) debaters. It seems that the majority of the "umph" comes from your ability to argue petty points, and not the actual foundational idea. Some of you guys (if you aren't) would make great lawyers.

I don't see why Democrats/Liberals with actual intelligence and gainful employment advocate so strongly for this current incarnation of the Democratic Party. It doesn't help you/the country/human progress. It just seeks to espouse racial and class envy. It's a party of useless litigation and unwanted controls. We're no longer moving forward; we're handing out tissues and having a pity party.

I am not a fan of the wealthy elite, ecological harm, or substandard working conditions. But as we slip further into poverty and racial tension, we'll only see more of it.

Sorry for the use of generalities, but from what I've seen on these boards there really isn't much done in the way of changing minds, no matter the linked item.

So, as a CBD sufferer, how does the Democratic Party being in charge better myself as a citizen and the country in general? Why are you so happy to see your "side" win? What will they change for the better?

 

[feralkid]

Emails. She lied, and mislead. She is far from stupid, she knew exactly what she was doing.

Funny how 8 congressional investigations have failed to establish any of what you think about her.

Time to call for another; we'll find her lies and those Iraqi WMD's. Maybe the real killers from the O.J. case?

 

[dank69]

Democracy...is that what buying votes with government hand outs is?

For srs. What major city *doesn't* vote Democrat primarily? I guess all those guys shooting each other, dealing drugs, ect. just happen to be voting due to intellectual reasons? Afterall, the Democrat party *is* about science and logic, right?

But hey. As long as you can win the popular vote by getting the scumbags to line up en masse, who cares, right? Heck, let's make it even easier and not even require them to go outside to get any form of ID either. Wouldn't want them to have to think about what they're doing, amirite?

You guys aren't unintelligent folk...your arguments indicate thought and planning, and some of you are very good (master?) debaters. It seems that the majority of the "umph" comes from your ability to argue petty points, and not the actual foundational idea. Some of you guys (if you aren't) would make great lawyers.

I don't see why Democrats/Liberals with actual intelligence and gainful employment advocate so strongly for this current incarnation of the Democratic Party. It doesn't help you/the country/human progress. It just seeks to espouse racial and class envy. It's a party of useless litigation and unwanted controls. We're no longer moving forward; we're handing out tissues and having a pity party.

I am not a fan of the wealthy elite, ecological harm, or substandard working conditions. But as we slip further into poverty and racial tension, we'll only see more of it.

Sorry for the use of generalities, but from what I've seen on these boards there really isn't much done in the way of changing minds, no matter the linked item.

So, as a CBD sufferer, how does the Democratic Party being in charge better myself as a citizen and the country in general? Why are you so happy to see your "side" win? What will they change for the better?

Tax payers getting something in return for their taxes = GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS!!!

GTFO with this tired old shit.

 

[Dannar26]

Tax payers getting something in return for their taxes = GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS!!!

GTFO with this tired old shit.

Don't you have to work to pay taxes?

I'm sorry if it's not a trendy new argument.

Why do cities vote Liberal again?

 

[Indus]

Why are you so happy to see your "side" win? What will they change for the better?

Perhaps you should think about this from an open mind and come at it from the opposite, what is it that you don't want?

Here are a list of things that generally liberals don't want:

1. More Americans dying overseas in unneeded wars that don't help us in the least bit (example. Iraq)
2. More tax subsidies on the rich while the middle class pays more than their fair share
3. The ability of health insurance companies to drop anyone's policy at a whim when they deem it's not profitable enough for them.
4. The ability of health insurance to deny buying insurance policies on pre-existing conditions.
5. The ability to deny LBGT citizens from basic human rights like love and marriage.
6. The ability to coddle and create xenophobia against other American Citizens just because of their religion or skin color.
7. The ability to totally deny that we are responsible for climate change.
8. The ability to totally deny an abortion even in cases of rape/ incest.
9. The ability to deny that trickle-down economics does not work except for the top 1%. (thanks dank69)

These are only some of stark differences as why liberals/ democrats prefer not to vote in Republicans.

 

[Blackjack200]

Don't you have to work to pay taxes?

I'm sorry if it's not a trendy new argument.

Why do cities vote Liberal again?

Can't imagine why black people don't vote Republican.

 

[dank69]

Perhaps you should think about this from an open mind and come at it from the opposite, what is it that you don't want?

Here are a list of things that generally liberals don't want:

1. More Americans dying overseas in unneeded wars that don't help us in the least bit (example. Iraq)
2. More tax subsidies on the rich while the middle class pays more than their fair share
3. The ability of health insurance companies to drop anyone's policy at a whim when they deem it's not profitable enough for them.
4. The ability of health insurance to deny buying insurance policies on pre-existing conditions.
5. The ability to deny LBGT citizens from basic human rights like love and marriage.
6. The ability to coddle and create xenophobia against other American Citizens just because of their religion or skin color.
7. The ability to totally deny that we are responsible for climate change.
8. The ability to totally deny an abortion even in cases of rape/ incest.

These are only some of stark differences as why liberals/ democrats prefer not to vote in Republicans.

9. The ability to deny that Keynesian economics is correct and trickle-down has been debunked.

 

[dank69]

Don't you have to work to pay taxes?

I'm sorry if it's not a trendy new argument.

Why do cities vote Liberal again?

Are we pretending that only people who don't work vote Democrat? Or that only people who don't work get things from the government?

 

[senseamp]

GOP has pre-discredited itself.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Are we pretending that only people who don't work vote Democrat? Or that only people who don't work get things from the government?

Pretty easy to see in his post why Republicans have no moral qualms in actively attempting to disenfranchise democratic voters. They all fit neatly into their stereotype of no good freeloaders who only want free stuff, and therefore are unworthy to vote.

 

[Dannar26]

Perhaps you should think about this from an open mind and come at it from the opposite, what is it that you don't want?

Here are a list of things that generally liberals don't want:
1. More Americans dying overseas in unneeded wars that don't help us in the least bit (example. Iraq)
2. More tax subsidies on the rich while the middle class pays more than their fair share
3. The ability of health insurance companies to drop anyone's policy at a whim when they deem it's not profitable enough for them.
4. The ability of health insurance to deny buying insurance policies on pre-existing conditions.
5. The ability to deny LBGT citizens from basic human rights like love and marriage.
6. The ability to coddle and create xenophobia against other American Citizens just because of their religion or skin color.
7. The ability to totally deny that we are responsible for climate change.
8. The ability to totally deny an abortion even in cases of rape/ incest.
9. The ability to deny that trickle-down economics does not work except for the top 1%. (thanks dank69)
These are only some of stark differences as why liberals/ democrats prefer not to vote in Republicans.

These are good points, and exactly something to the effect of what I was fishing for. Thank you Indus.

I was going to do a line-by-line response to these, but it ended up being far too longwinded with me focusing in on my own beliefs. I realize that the general gist of my responses were mostly along the lines of, "why yes I agree, but how do we get there?" This is where the difference lies, I think. We both want rational things, but believe a different path will take us there.

In keeping with your theme regarding things that I don’t want or wish to prevent:

1) The continually decreasing economic power of the nation.

2) The weakening of our armed forces.

3) The fevered witch hunt against individuals who advocate for race/gender neutral rights.

4) The increase of taxes to fund social programs that affect very little change.

5) The gradual loss of personal freedoms lost in favor of overprotective and invasive rules.

6) The calling for more school funding for schools that are failing due to the abysmal quality of student due to horri-bad parenting.

7) Societal disincentive towards working hard to succeed. The swollen sense of victimhood held by, well, pretty much everybody.

8) Anything holding back Science.

Can't imagine why black people don't vote Republican.

Well, that was helpful.

Are we pretending that only people who don't work vote Democrat? Or that only people who don't work get things from the government?

Certainly not. But by comparison, they're must be outliers. It's commonly held that Republicans wish to cut social benefits, while Democrats expand them. That perception is not incorrect.

But my gripe is that it doesn't matter what else team blue advocates for...it could be for sock puppets or brutal anal rape. You'd still get votes from those who want to stay on the gravy train.

For that reason, and only that reason, you command the popular vote of every major city where poverty and crime thrive. And those guys have no skin in the game regarding this country. They don't care about it!
While I don't enjoy the notion that something other than popular will ought to be followed, what do you do when the voters are just there to abuse the system?

Pretty easy to see in his post why Republicans have no moral qualms in actively attempting to disenfranchise democratic voters. They all fit neatly into their stereotype of no good freeloaders who only want free stuff, and therefore are unworthy to vote.

I'm not doing anything to anybody. But if you don't contribute to something, I have a hard time acknowledging your say in the matter. It's like allowing votes from another country to affect our elections. They've got no stake.

 

[thraashman]

Anyone else in no way surprised that Mo is a member of the so called House Freedom Caucus? They really should be renamed the Fucktard Caucus.

 

[sm625]

And on day #2 he will sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.

 

[Sonikku]

What a joke. If every politician that said something less than 100% factual was brought up on charges or discharged from their post, all of Congress would be empty.

 

[dank69]

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But my gripe is that it doesn't matter what else team blue advocates for...it could be for sock puppets or brutal anal rape. You'd still get votes from those who want to stay on the gravy train.

...

The same could be said for deeply religious people and the GOP. Team red could advocate for sock puppets but religious people will still vote for them because abortions and gays.

As for who has skin in the game, even most poor people have to pay sales tax.

 

[MrPickins]

For srs. What major city *doesn't* vote Democrat primarily? I guess all those guys shooting each other, dealing drugs, ect. just happen to be voting due to intellectual reasons? Afterall, the Democrat party *is* about science and logic, right?

But hey. As long as you can win the popular vote by getting the scumbags to line up en masse, who cares, right? Heck, let's make it even easier and not even require them to go outside to get any form of ID either. Wouldn't want them to have to think about what they're doing, amirite?

Drug dealers and gang-bangers have an extremely low turnout at the polls...

 

[Indus]

you command the popular vote of every major city where poverty and crime thrive.

That's a crazy statement.

Because the contrast is the GOP commands the vote of every major rural voter

- who has never had access to an iphone/ ipad or google search and their minds are constantly fed by their neighborhood pastor who says their religious freedoms are under assault,

- who has never been to a university and seen people of other races/ backgrounds are not a threat to the country and they're U.S. citizens too,

- who only listens to Rush Limbaugh/ Beck/ Fox news which basically puts their brain in a slow simmering hate filled stew of how tax dollars are just going to waste and obama is giving it all away and just gathering more debt

- who believes in a strong army to protect them all the while failing to understand that we spend as much on our military as the next few countries combined and we have the best natural defense anyone can ever wish for.. the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans and a very cold Canada up north.

I think the reason the country has shifted from right of center to slightly left is because of three reasons..

1. technology.. google is your friend.. more informed people see past the bullshit easily

2. the trickle down economics caused the great recession and not everyone has recovered and they clearly "need" stuff to survive. We all know who was at the helm for that..

3. wages have stayed the same where as expenses have gone up. Even basic stuff like rent, electricity, gas, pork, chicken, eggs, bread costs more while the wages have not gone up and people feel squeezed.

One theology addresses these as problems we need to fix and the other says you need to "work harder".

 

[Mxylplyx]

I'm not doing anything to anybody. But if you don't contribute to something, I have a hard time acknowledging your say in the matter. It's like allowing votes from another country to affect our elections. They've got no stake. [/FONT][/COLOR]

The constitution that conservatives hold so dearly disagrees with you. You seem to buy into the discredited dogma that anyone receiving any kind of social assistance is merely a "taker" who has no desire to become something more. On the contrary a majority of welfare benefits go to working families or individuals, so the problem is the lack of decent paying jobs. I think it is quite pathetic of you to suggest millions of your own countrymen trying to exercise their constitutionally protected right to vote is akin to a foreigner voting merely because they are too poor to pay any income taxes.

 

[MrPickins]

For that reason, and only that reason, you command the popular vote of every major city where poverty and crime thrive. And those guys have no skin in the game regarding this country. They don't care about it!

As if poverty and crime doesn't exist out in the boonies (you know, where meth and prescription pill addictions are ubiquitous).

 

[MongGrel]

That's a crazy statement.

Because the contrast is the GOP commands the vote of every major rural voter

- who has never had access to an iphone/ ipad or google search and their minds are constantly fed by their neighborhood pastor who says their religious freedoms are under assault,

- who has never been to a university and seen people of other races/ backgrounds are not a threat to the country and they're U.S. citizens too,

- who only listens to Rush Limbaugh/ Beck/ Fox news which basically puts their brain in a slow simmering hate filled stew of how tax dollars are just going to waste and obama is giving it all away and just gathering more debt

- who believes in a strong army to protect them all the while failing to understand that we spend as much on our military as the next countries combined and we have the best natural defense anyone can ever wish for.. the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans and a very cold Canada up north.

I think the reason the country has shifted from right of center to slightly left is because of three reasons..

1. technology.. google is your friend.. more informed people see past the bullshit easily

2. the trickle down economics caused the great recession and not everyone has recovered and they clearly "need" stuff to survive. We all know who was at the helm for that..

3. wages have stayed the same where as expenses have gone up. Even basic stuff like rent, gas, pork, chicken, eggs, bread costs more while the wages have not gone up and people feel squeezed.

One theology addresses these as problems we need to fix and the other says you need to "work harder".

I'm actually starting to like Indus more and more on a daily basis.

 

[ivwshane]

So you too are also for hand outs you just want them in a different way.

Don't you think your post would have been more productive if you stated that you want the same things as dems but you disagree on how to achieve those things, that way we could be discussing that instead?

I think most people agree on the what and the why, it's the how that never gets debated.

These are good points, and exactly something to the effect of what I was fishing for. Thank you Indus.

I was going to do a line-by-line response to these, but it ended up being far too longwinded with me focusing in on my own beliefs. I realize that the general gist of my responses were mostly along the lines of, "why yes I agree, but how do we get there?" This is where the difference lies, I think. We both want rational things, but believe a different path will take us there.

In keeping with your theme regarding things that I don’t want or wish to prevent:

1) The continually decreasing economic power of the nation.

2) The weakening of our armed forces.

3) The fevered witch hunt against individuals who advocate for race/gender neutral rights.

4) The increase of taxes to fund social programs that affect very little change.

5) The gradual loss of personal freedoms lost in favor of overprotective and invasive rules.

6) The calling for more school funding for schools that are failing due to the abysmal quality of student due to horri-bad parenting.

7) Societal disincentive towards working hard to succeed. The swollen sense of victimhood held by, well, pretty much everybody.

8) Anything holding back Science.




Well, that was helpful.



Certainly not. But by comparison, they're must be outliers. It's commonly held that Republicans wish to cut social benefits, while Democrats expand them. That perception is not incorrect.

But my gripe is that it doesn't matter what else team blue advocates for...it could be for sock puppets or brutal anal rape. You'd still get votes from those who want to stay on the gravy train.

For that reason, and only that reason, you command the popular vote of every major city where poverty and crime thrive. And those guys have no skin in the game regarding this country. They don't care about it!
While I don't enjoy the notion that something other than popular will ought to be followed, what do you do when the voters are just there to abuse the system?



I'm not doing anything to anybody. But if you don't contribute to something, I have a hard time acknowledging your say in the matter. It's like allowing votes from another country to affect our elections. They've got no stake.

 

[feralkid]

I have a hard time acknowledging your say in the matter. It's like allowing votes from another country to affect our elections. They've got no stake.

Who the fuck are you to judge?

Being an arrogant sociopath doesn't make you better than other people.