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GOP ACA Replacement Imminent....Predictions

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What will GOP ACA Replacement look like?

  • It won't happen, they won't pass either repeal or replacement

    Votes: 29 28.7%

  • It won't happen, they will only repeal and not replace

    Votes: 8 7.9%

  • Replacement will look mostly like ACA, except worse

    Votes: 45 44.6%

  • Replacement will look mostly like ACA, except better

    Votes: 5 5.0%

  • Replacement will look completely different from ACA, except worse

    Votes: 14 13.9%

  • Replacement will look completely different from ACA, except better

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    101
alien42 said:
Pence just arrived for the skinny repeal vote with protesters chanting shame in the background.

when does zombie Mountain show up?
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Oh man, the image of naked Pence marching into the capital building with crowds yelling shame....I wish it happened that way.
 
Chromagnus said:
I for one am happy that millions of people won't be losing insurance and premiums won't go up 20% extra on other individuals. These are real people's lives we are talking about.
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Would you still be happy if Trump gets san francisco nuked two years from now because he tweets some bs about invading, knowing that perhaps he wouldn't be in office if a few thousand people had already died from their own idiotic decisions to support Trump and the AHCA? Imagine all the terrible things that Trump can do to the country in 3.5 years. Now imagine it didn't have to be that way, because we could've let the Trump supporters pay for their own mistakes and die by the thousands form lack of healthcare, while liberals in CA and NY were safe from state healthcare programs?


This is a war. A culture war. If you want to fight it like a paintball game, you will lose to the people who actually bring guns (conservatives).
 
HomerJS said:
Dump will never admit. Bad idea being an ass to McCain, criticizing him being captured in Vietnam.

GOP should be happy. We're not talking about Russia
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I was thinking this as well. cranky old coot realizes he has less than a year to live, and just decided to fuck that bloated toad with his thumb.
 
FIVR said:
Would you still be happy if Trump gets san francisco nuked two years from now because he tweets some bs about invading, knowing that perhaps he wouldn't be in office if a few thousand people had already died from their own idiotic decisions to support Trump and the AHCA? Imagine all the terrible things that Trump can do to the country in 3.5 years. Now imagine it didn't have to be that way, because we could've let the Trump supporters pay for their own mistakes and die by the thousands form lack of healthcare, while liberals in CA and NY were safe from state healthcare programs?


This is a war. A culture war. If you want to fight it like a paintball game, you will lose to the people who actually bring guns (conservatives).
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That's quite the butterfly effect picture you are painting there. I don't think letting the Rs win on repealing the ACA is a strategic with for the Ds. I prefer the scenario where Trump loses and the Rs look like pathetic politicians who have no business governing all while allowing millions of people to keep health insurance. This is clearly a huge loss for for the Republicans and a big win for the American people.
 
FIVR said:
The reason "conservatives" continually kick our asses in almost every different type of election in the US despite lower popular representation and less education is because we continually bend over to save "conservatives" from their own idiotic decisions. As I said before: People who don't pay for their bad decisions do not learn. If you want to actually win and do something good for the country you will have to sometimes allow unsavory things to happen to unsavory people.
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Yeah, people really learned from the great recession. Most people that vote for republicans are too dumb or willfully ignorant to learn from things blowing up in their face.
 
FIVR said:
Would you still be happy if Trump gets san francisco nuked two years from now because he tweets some bs about invading, knowing that perhaps he wouldn't be in office if a few thousand people had already died from their own idiotic decisions to support Trump and the AHCA? Imagine all the terrible things that Trump can do to the country in 3.5 years. Now imagine it didn't have to be that way, because we could've let the Trump supporters pay for their own mistakes and die by the thousands form lack of healthcare, while liberals in CA and NY were safe from state healthcare programs?


This is a war. A culture war. If you want to fight it like a paintball game, you will lose to the people who actually bring guns (conservatives).
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This is, of course, what far right mouthpieces, Alt-right trolls & Russian propaganda have encouraged us to do for years- otherize our fellow Americans & set us against each other.

It's easier when dealing with insular, isolated & poorly educated people than with America in general, however.
 
FIVR said:
The reason "conservatives" continually kick our asses in almost every different type of election in the US despite lower popular representation and less education is because we continually bend over to save "conservatives" from their own idiotic decisions. As I said before: People who don't pay for their bad decisions do not learn. If you want to actually win and do something good for the country you will have to sometimes allow unsavory things to happen to unsavory people.
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The ACA IS something good for the country. What you're basically saying is that if we want to 'win' we need to undo good things for the country so we can redo good things for the country at some nebulous point in the future when we win full control of government again.

This is dumb.
 
FIVR said:
This just means Trump for sure has 3.5 years minimum left to F this country up. If people don't pay for their bad decisions, they don't learn. This bill would've hurt Trump states far far worse than liberal coastal elite states. Yet, we are cheering that it failed.... why? This bill was the key to taking the senate in 2018 and because it failed, there will be nothing concrete (i.e. no dead bodies) to point to and no big losses from conservatives will be sustained in midterms.

I am very disappointed that this failed. This is a big blow to the left, and a huge win for Trump.
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I was thinking along the same lines, but keep in mind that it would have affected lots of people that actually need the ACA right now.
 
Jhhnn said:
I'm hoping this episode breaks the illusions of Repub voters.
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Slow learner standup.

fskimospy said:
The ACA IS something good for the country. What you're basically saying is that if we want to 'win' we need to undo good things for the country so we can redo good things for the country at some nebulous point in the future when we win full control of government again.

This is dumb.
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Conservatives are smart enough to act in their self-interest, liberals often aren't.
 
Pens1566 said:
Praising McCain for his no vote last night is the same as praising a firefighter putting out the fire he started. McCain's YES on the MTP was the legislative equivalent of arson. Fuck him. Still.
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I initially thought the same thing, but since then I've been thinking maybe McCain honestly thought starting this off this week would push McConnell into opening up the process to get Democratic Party involvement in order to pass a bill. Well that obviously didn't happen but McCain still did the country a big favor by showing how screwed up the GOP controlled Senate is. I mean voting on bills not even written yet and certainly not read by either the Senators or any of their staffers? No public hearings ever, no input from insurers or medical providers (worse, totally ignoring what they did say). Voting "Yes" on a bill you know is wrong and fatally flawed if you can get a binding agreement from the House not to accept it? You can't make up such nonsense.

My town government (and I daresay yours as well) is light years better run-by unpaid citizens serving part time in the evenings.
 
Trump telling a bunch of cops in NY that he'll "let Obamacare implode". I'm not sure congress is on the same page. If he threatens to destabilize the markets they'll act to save themselves.

Also he told the cops it ok to rough up people they arrest.
 
K1052 said:
Trump telling a bunch of cops in NY that he'll "let Obamacare implode". I'm not sure congress is on the same page. If he threatens to destabilize the markets they'll act to save themselves.

Also he told the cops it ok to rough up people they arrest.
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Yeah...He's in the middle of another epic rambling word-salad speech right now, ostensibly talking about gang violence, except for brief periods of respite when he actually looks at a teleprompter and reads real, intelligent words. Mostly, his gaze drifts away and he starts going off some wild tangent, mumbling, stumbling, bragging, jumping from one topic to another - there's got to be a jumble of staffers just off stage with all of their sphincter's knotting up on them every time they see his eyes lose focus.
 
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