Goodbye Free Pornsites?

NikPreviousAcct

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Doesn't this go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Isn't it the law's job to prove the girls are under age, not the other way around?
 

Originally posted by: Nik
Doesn't this go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Isn't it the law's job to prove the girls are under age, not the other way around?

 

Kenazo

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Originally posted by: Nik
Doesn't this go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Isn't it the law's job to prove the girls are under age, not the other way around?

Wouldn't it be better to prevent crime??
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Nik
Doesn't this go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Isn't it the law's job to prove the girls are under age, not the other way around?

Wouldn't it be better to prevent crime??

How often does this happen, though?
 

Kenazo

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Nik
Doesn't this go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Isn't it the law's job to prove the girls are under age, not the other way around?

Wouldn't it be better to prevent crime??

How often does this happen, though?

What, crime prevention?

We licence drivers, why not porn stars?
 

Argo

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Originally posted by: Nik
Doesn't this go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Isn't it the law's job to prove the girls are under age, not the other way around?

Hmm, no. By the very same logic the cops can't pull you over to check if you're drunk.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Nik
Doesn't this go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Isn't it the law's job to prove the girls are under age, not the other way around?

Wouldn't it be better to prevent crime??

Wouldn't it be better to write everyone a ticket for doing 10MPH over the speed limit?
Wouldn't it be better to search people's houses randomly to check for drugs?
...
 

scorpmatt

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Nik
Doesn't this go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Isn't it the law's job to prove the girls are under age, not the other way around?

Wouldn't it be better to prevent crime??

Wouldn't it be better to write everyone a ticket for doing 10MPH over the speed limit?
Wouldn't it be better to search people's houses randomly to check for drugs?
...

Wouldn't it better if everyone who ever neffed on here or posted a parody thread or reposted be banned for life?
 

tm37

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Well it will be pretty hard for those with Stolen content to do so.

However they will just move Off Shore.

Nothing to see here folk move along.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: Nik
Doesn't this go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Isn't it the law's job to prove the girls are under age, not the other way around?

Hmm, no. By the very same logic the cops can't pull you over to check if you're drunk.

Police are required to have a reason to pull you over. However, all they have to do is say "he was swerving" whether you were or not or some crap and the law recognizes it as a reason since you can't prove that you weren't.

Licensing the porn industry? What's next? Licensing hookers and legalizing nation-wide prostitution?
 

Zysoclaplem

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How long until those who look younger than they are, even though they are of legal age, are no longer allowed to star in porn?
 

Demon-Xanth

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Originally posted by: scorpmatt
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Nik
Doesn't this go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Isn't it the law's job to prove the girls are under age, not the other way around?

Wouldn't it be better to prevent crime??

Wouldn't it be better to write everyone a ticket for doing 10MPH over the speed limit?
Wouldn't it be better to search people's houses randomly to check for drugs?
...

Wouldn't it better if everyone who ever neffed on here or posted a parody thread or reposted be banned for life?
There was no parody. Just an example of why innocent until proven guilty exists.
 
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Originally posted by: Nik

Licensing the porn industry? What's next? Licensing hookers and legalizing nation-wide prostitution?

That would make a lot of sense to me, but it'll never happen. Our country was, unfortunately, founded by Puritans, and it's presently led by born-again Christians.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Nik

Licensing the porn industry? What's next? Licensing hookers and legalizing nation-wide prostitution?

That would make a lot of sense to me, but it'll never happen. Our country was, unfortunately, founded by Puritans, and it's presently led by born-again Christians.

That has nothing to do with it. Don't turn this into a religious debate just because you have a hair up your ass about religion. This doesn't have one thing to do with religion, so leave religion out of it.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Nik
Doesn't this go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Isn't it the law's job to prove the girls are under age, not the other way around?

Wouldn't it be better to prevent crime??

yeap.

And we should put cameras in everyones house, car, place of work (oops already done), every stree etc to catch them.

Also i fsomeone looks as if they may or may not commit a crime arrest them to find out. Also make everything unable to be used in a crime etc.

that way we will live in a great place!
 

Queasy

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All these porn site operators should already have their ducks in a row with identification and proof of age. Shouldn't take much to get a copy of subject's driver's license. That law has been on the books for almost 30 years.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Nik
Doesn't this go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Isn't it the law's job to prove the girls are under age, not the other way around?

Wouldn't it be better to prevent crime??

yeap.

And we should put cameras in everyones house, car, place of work (oops already done), every stree etc to catch them.

Also i fsomeone looks as if they may or may not commit a crime arrest them to find out. Also make everything unable to be used in a crime etc.

that way we will live in a great place!

I don't know if it was done nationally, but Oregon took Sudafed and other products containing suda-whatever off the OTC market because it's used in making methamphetamine. Wow. There are way more people suffering from allergies and colds than there are meth users, but who cares! Cut off the hand to spite the face! Who cares if allergy and cold sufferers have to actually get a doctor's appointment, get a prescription, and pay more? The meth-makers now have to take an extra step in order to get their ingredients! Yay!

:roll:

Fvcking idiots.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Queasy
All these porn site operators should already have their ducks in a row with identification and proof of age. Shouldn't take much to get a copy of subject's driver's license. That law has been on the books for almost 30 years.

So what do you do in a case where someone over the age of 21 (it's 21 in some states) wants to break into a porn career (which isn't illegal) but has one of those diseases that gives them convulsion fits or can't see very well or some other excuse the state makes for refusing to offer a driver's license?

State ID? Okay what if they don't have one? Do we make a law that says all porn stars must have some form of identification in order to get in to porn?

No no no no no. Too many laws. Too much big government. The more laws we make, the more laws we'll have to make in order to fix the loopholes and other crap that people will then focus on.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Nik
Doesn't this go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Isn't it the law's job to prove the girls are under age, not the other way around?

Wouldn't it be better to prevent crime??

yeap.

And we should put cameras in everyones house, car, place of work (oops already done), every stree etc to catch them.

Also i fsomeone looks as if they may or may not commit a crime arrest them to find out. Also make everything unable to be used in a crime etc.

that way we will live in a great place!

I don't know if it was done nationally, but Oregon took Sudafed and other products containing suda-whatever off the OTC market because it's used in making methamphetamine. Wow. There are way more people suffering from allergies and colds than there are meth users, but who cares! Cut off the hand to spite the face! Who cares if allergy and cold sufferers have to actually get a doctor's appointment, get a prescription, and pay more? The meth-makers now have to take an extra step in order to get their ingredients! Yay!

:roll:

Fvcking idiots.

yeap same around here.



 

Argo

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: Nik
Doesn't this go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Isn't it the law's job to prove the girls are under age, not the other way around?

Hmm, no. By the very same logic the cops can't pull you over to check if you're drunk.

Police are required to have a reason to pull you over. However, all they have to do is say "he was swerving" whether you were or not or some crap and the law recognizes it as a reason since you can't prove that you weren't.

Licensing the porn industry? What's next? Licensing hookers and legalizing nation-wide prostitution?

Again, you're talking about different thing. They're trying to make sure all those girls are legal age. The same way police can walk into a party or a bar and ask everybody for an ID.
 

JoeKing

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*sniff*
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Queasy

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Originally posted by: Nik
So what do you do in a case where someone over the age of 21 (it's 21 in some states) wants to break into a porn career (which isn't illegal) but has one of those diseases that gives them convulsion fits or can't see very well or some other excuse the state makes for refusing to offer a driver's license?

State ID? Okay what if they don't have one? Do we make a law that says all porn stars must have some form of identification in order to get in to porn?

No no no no no. Too many laws. Too much big government. The more laws we make, the more laws we'll have to make in order to fix the loopholes and other crap that people will then focus on.

I'm not arguing that. Just saying that the law has been around for a long while now. Those in the porn industry know what is required of them and they should already have the necessary proof of age. This shouldn't be coming as a revelation to any of them.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Argo
Originally posted by: Nik
Doesn't this go against the whole innocent until proven guilty thing? Isn't it the law's job to prove the girls are under age, not the other way around?

Hmm, no. By the very same logic the cops can't pull you over to check if you're drunk.

Police are required to have a reason to pull you over. However, all they have to do is say "he was swerving" whether you were or not or some crap and the law recognizes it as a reason since you can't prove that you weren't.

Licensing the porn industry? What's next? Licensing hookers and legalizing nation-wide prostitution?

Again, you're talking about different thing. They're trying to make sure all those girls are legal age. The same way police can walk into a party or a bar and ask everybody for an ID.

That's one thing. Registering the party with the police ahead of time with a list of guests and proof them being of legal age to participate in the party's activities is just fvcking stupid.
 

rh71

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Now, the law is getting stricter. The new enforcement regulations would require webmasters that don't produce material to keep age records for every image that shows or implies sexual activity on their sites. (Sites that simply feature straightforward nudity are exempt.)
Interesting. So nude pic sites are ok, but sites featuring sexual acts need to pony up the docs... I don't understand why the distinction.