Goodbye fedora, hello ubuntu

[n0cmonkey]

Apparently 2.6.20 has changes that break madwifi...

So 2.6.17 which doesn't work, or 2.6.20 that does... Nice.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Did you do the server-expert install? It lets you manually do your partitions, and it doesn't install buttloads of stuff you don't want. I always use it and I can barely tell ubuntu from debian, other than a better selection of packages.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Did you do the server-expert install? It lets you manually do your partitions, and it doesn't install buttloads of stuff you don't want. I always use it and I can barely tell ubuntu from debian, other than a better selection of packages.

No, I just did a normal install. I could customize some partitions, but not all. It should be a relatively easy fstab edit to get it right though.

I've found a live cd that is supposed to do what I want, so I'm giving up on this project for now.

EDIT: Nice to see you stop by, BTW. 🙂

 

[drag]

EDIT: Nice to see you stop by, BTW. 🙂

Yep.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

🙂

 

[Nothinman]

Did you do the server-expert install? It lets you manually do your partitions, and it doesn't install buttloads of stuff you don't want. I always use it and I can barely tell ubuntu from debian, other than a better selection of packages.

You have that backwards, Debian supports like 6x as many packages as Ubuntu and they don't lump all of the non-free crap into one idiotic restricted-modules package like Ubuntu.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Did you do the server-expert install? It lets you manually do your partitions, and it doesn't install buttloads of stuff you don't want. I always use it and I can barely tell ubuntu from debian, other than a better selection of packages.

You have that backwards, Debian supports like 6x as many packages as Ubuntu and they don't lump all of the non-free crap into one idiotic restricted-modules package like Ubuntu.

Well apparently the packages I care about aren't in that 6x, so I haven't noticed.

I don't really know the details of Ubuntu's handling of non-free stuff, but then, I've never really cared except when it comes to drivers (and I'm starting to care less about that as well).

I don't pay nearly as much attention to OS stuff as I used to. I just want stuff to work so I can go about my routine of coding and mindless web surfing.

And in general, Ubuntu feels straightforward and productive. Debian feels bogged down in procedure, squabbling and intellectual masturbation. All of which I tend to dislike.

 

[Nothinman]

Well apparently the packages I care about aren't in that 6x, so I haven't noticed.

I don't know of anything that Ubuntu carries that Debian doesn't, they do a decent amount of customization of the Gnome crap but AFAIK the package lists (once you enable universe and multiverse in Ubuntu) are virtually the same. The kernels are handles a bit differently, which is where the linux-restricted-modules crap comes into play, but everything else should be about the same.

I don't pay nearly as much attention to OS stuff as I used to. I just want stuff to work so I can go about my routine of coding and mindless web surfing.

Same here with sid, I upgrade every couple of days when I'm bored but I don't remember the last time that it required any actual thought on my end.

And in general, Ubuntu feels straightforward and productive. Debian feels bogged down in procedure, squabbling and intellectual masturbation. All of which I tend to dislike.

In general they're both almost the same, except for the fact that Ubuntu lacks an equivalent to Debian sid so you have to wait 6 months to upgrade or run their development version which is a lot less usable than sid.