Goodbye fedora, hello ubuntu

[n0cmonkey]

EDIT:
Well, I gave up. I'm installing Ubuntu since my Ubuntu disc is newer than my Fedora disc. Hopefully it'll have packages for the stuff I need, or atleast not get in my way too much.


Old:
I tried to get my RALink wireless device working again, and failed. And somehow in the process destroyed my /lib contents. I had backed this directory up, expecting the driver to wipe out a lot of my files (again). I put the files back from the backup (cp -pr, I also used this when I originally copied them), but I still get the error.

I can boot from an ubuntu cd, mount the hard drive, chroot into it, and run ldconfig just in case. Doesn't help.

If I try to boot into single user mode I get the same error and can't change anything.

Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?

Fedora Core 6/i386

 

[n0cmonkey]

The installer didn't let me set my /tmp partition... This is going to be interesting.

 

[n0cmonkey]

From the looks of the package list, I should have gone with gentoo...

 

[drag]

For ubuntu you have to enable access to the universe repository to get any really usefull amount of packages.
And to that you have to get network working and all that.

I figured that with your temperrment and skill level you'd be much better off with Debian Testing. But I guess there realy isn't going to be that big of a difference.

What ralink chipset do you have?

 

[drag]

(the installer for Debian Etch is about 150 megs or so. Or 50 megs for the business card version.)

What version of Ubuntu is this, BTW?

 

[n0cmonkey]

I had a cd of edgy lying around. Enabling universe is the first thing I did.

I decided last night that I'm going to give Ubuntu a week, then possibly try something else. I don't need a stable linuyx box at home right now anyways.

Its an rt2500 series chipset. Ubuntu picked it and the atheros card up right away.

 

[gsellis]

Man, if I could get Xubuntu on an old Toshiba Pentium II with 128M and a D-Link 54G Atheros, you should have no trouble

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: gsellis
Man, if I could get Xubuntu on an old Toshiba Pentium II with 128M and a D-Link 54G Atheros, you should have no trouble

Ubuntu is working fine, even with the Atheros and RALink cards (haven't tried the Zydas yet). Unfortunately I'm guessing the madwifi driver isn't: 1. the version I want and 2. has the patches I want.

I'm going to give it a shot for 5-10 days. See how it goes.

Maybe Ubuntu can change my predisposition for hating it.

 

[n0cmonkey]

SEE ALSO
modprobe.conf(5), lsmod(8), modprobe.modutils(8)

28 October 2005 MODPROBE(8)
root@midnight:~/play# man 8 modprobe.modutils
No manual entry for modprobe.modutils in section 8
root@midnight:~/play# man modprobe.modutils
No manual entry for modprobe.modutils

Oops.

EDIT: modprobe -r modulename removes a module. Now if I can find a list of packages installed on the system, and a way to figure out which package contains that module...

EDIT2: dpkg --list fun.

 

[Goosemaster]

atleast you didn't have to try and join a ubuntu pc to a WEP+PEAP networking..that was a royal PITA.

never again

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
atleast you didn't have to try and join a ubuntu pc to a WEP+PEAP networking..that was a royal PITA.

never again

I've got a WEP network, but no PEAP. I've also got a WPA one... Not sure if I'm even going to try either yet.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Modules installed and modprobed... Now I get to figure out how to get them to associate with my wireless card...

yay.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Ugh, I hate Linux.

 

[wlee]

Ugh, I hate Linux.

Is any flavor of BSD ( Besides OS-X ) { blatant stab at n0cmonkey } *REALLY* any better than LINUX when if comes to WiFi ? They all have to be setup and config via NASTY shell commands. Doesn't "spoon-feed" you via GUI in the least!

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: wlee

Ugh, I hate Linux.

Is any flavor of BSD ( Besides OS-X ) { blatant stab at n0cmonkey } *REALLY* any better than LINUX when if comes to WiFi ? They all have to be setup and config via NASTY shell commands. Doesn't "spoon-feed" you via GUI in the least!

Yes. At least OpenBSD is better th an Linux, especially in the wireless arena. I LOVE shell commands. In fact, that's all I'm using right now. I can't get the drivers to work for Linux, while wireless drivers work out of the box on an OpenBSD install.

Nothing like having to use the command line on something that works, rather than a pretty gui for something that doesn't.

 

[n0cmonkey]

I must have screwed up something good.

root@midnight:/usr******/linux-headers-2.6.17-11# make modules
CHK include/linux/version.h
UPD include/linux/version.h
HOSTCC scripts/basic/fixdep
HOSTCC scripts/basic/split-include
HOSTCC scripts/basic/docproc
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/conf.o
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/kxgettext.o
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/mconf.o
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/zconf.tab.o
HOSTLD scripts/kconfig/conf
scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/i386/Kconfig
net/Kconfig:225: can't open file "net/ieee80211/Kconfig"
make[2]: *** [silentoldconfig] Error 1
make[1]: *** [silentoldconfig] Error 2
make: *** [include/linux/autoconf.h] Error 2

# cd ~/play/madwifi
# make
Checking if all requirements are met... ok.
mkdir -p ./symbols
for i in ./ath_hal ./net80211 ath_rate/sample ./ath; do \
make -C $i || exit 1; \
done
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath_ha''
make -C /usr******/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-386 SUBDIRS=/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath_hal MODVERDIR=/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath_hal/../symbols modules
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr******/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-38''
Building modules, stage 2.
MODPOST
WARNING: could not find /home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath_hal/.hal.o.cmd for /home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath_hal/hal.o
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr******/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-38''
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath_ha''
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/ddp/play/madwifi/net8021''
make -C /usr******/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-386 SUBDIRS=/home/ddp/play/madwifi/net80211 MODVERDIR=/home/ddp/play/madwifi/net80211/../symbols modules
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr******/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-38''
Building modules, stage 2.
MODPOST
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr******/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-38''
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ddp/play/madwifi/net8021''
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath_rate/sampl''
make -C /usr******/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-386 SUBDIRS=/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath_rate/sample MODVERDIR=/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath_rate/sample/../../symbols modules
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr******/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-38''
Building modules, stage 2.
MODPOST
WARNING: "ieee80211_iterate_nodes" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath_rate/sample/ath_rate_sample.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_hal_computetxtime" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath_rate/sample/ath_rate_sample.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ether_sprintf" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath_rate/sample/ath_rate_sample.ko] undefined!
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr******/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-38''
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath_rate/sampl''
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/ddp/play/madwifi/at''
make -C /usr******/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-386 SUBDIRS=/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath MODVERDIR=/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/../symbols modules
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr******/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-38''
Building modules, stage 2.
MODPOST
WARNING: "ath_hal_getwirelessmodes" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwtxpow" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_rate_setupxtxdesc" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_rate_newstate" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_find_txnode" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_pwrsave" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_getrssi" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_chan2mode" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_siwessid" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_vlan_register" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_crypto_encap" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwscan" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_hal_init_channels" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwessid" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_rate_findrate" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_getoptie" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_siwmode" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_siwscan" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_rate_node_init" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_state_name" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_siwnickn" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_siwretry" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_chan2ieee" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_siwtxpow" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_delkey" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_iwaplist" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_setkey" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_announce" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_media_status" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_classify" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_delmac" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_iwsetup" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_media_init" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_next_scan" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwencode" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_vlan_kill_vid" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_wme_acnames" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwfrag" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_rate_detach" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_rate_node_cleanup" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_addmac" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_iw_getstats" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwrts" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwnickn" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwretry" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwrange" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_hal_probe" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_mhz2ieee" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwpower" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ibss_merge" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwap" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_siwfreq" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_siwfrag" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_beacon_alloc" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwfreq" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_media_change" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwsens" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_siwpower" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_setparam" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_cipher_none" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_hal_detach" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwname" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_siwrts" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_hal_mhz2ieee" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwrate" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_dump_pkt" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_rate_dynamic_sysctl_register" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_getparam" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_chanlist" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_notify_michael_failure" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_hal_computetxtime" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_rate_newassoc" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_siwsens" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_free_node" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ifdetach" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ether_sprintf" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_rate_attach" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_find_rxnode" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_giwmode" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_setoptie" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_setmlme" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_beacon_update" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_siwencode" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_sysctl_register" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "if_printf" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "_ath_hal_attach" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ifattach" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_siwap" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_input" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_encap" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ath_rate_tx_complete" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
WARNING: "ieee80211_ioctl_siwrate" [/home/ddp/play/madwifi/ath/ath_pci.ko] undefined!
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr******/linux-headers-2.6.17-11-38''
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ddp/play/madwifi/at''

Any help on getting the madwifi-old w/patches driver installed on Ubuntu

 

[n0cmonkey]

Maybe Feisty will be better... :evil:

EDIT:

Need to get 649MB of archives.
After unpacking 363MB of additional disk space will be used.

:shocked:

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Maybe Feisty will be better... :evil:

EDIT:

Need to get 649MB of archives.
After unpacking 363MB of additional disk space will be used.

:shocked:

holy crap!

my wifi works on edgy without so much work, but i have yet to get WPA working so ive only been using it at customer homes to check their wifi signal. i played with it for a while last night and last weekend, and have decided that Ill just get it straight when i start using my new laptop as i set it up over the weekend, if i can decide by then what im going to run on it, unless someone here had an easier time with it (Asus wl-167g : rt73)

are there enormous usability differences between *bsd and linux? ive been half-tempted to try bsd for the hell of it, since i dont have enough experience with linux yet for it to matter whether or not i continue using it, but dont think I want to stick with Xubuntu as Id like to install something that ill *have* to spend some time using in order to learn about it.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: xSauronx
holy crap!

my wifi works on edgy without so much work, but i have yet to get WPA working so ive only been using it at customer homes to check their wifi signal. i played with it for a while last night and last weekend, and have decided that Ill just get it straight when i start using my new laptop as i set it up over the weekend, if i can decide by then what im going to run on it, unless someone here had an easier time with it (Asus wl-167g : rt73)

I'm sure basic wireless works just fine. I want to use some applications that require some specialized patches to the wireless driver. Unfortunately, compiling that driver is proving to be difficult.

are there enormous usability differences between *bsd and linux? ive been half-tempted to try bsd for the hell of it, since i dont have enough experience with linux yet for it to matter whether or not i continue using it, but dont think I want to stick with Xubuntu as Id like to install something that ill *have* to spend some time using in order to learn about it.

If you want 3D accelerated X11, you're stuck with Linux or FreeBSD. You'd have to really try it and find out if a BSD will suit your needs.

 

[Nothinman]

net/Kconfig:225: can't open file "net/ieee80211/Kconfig"

My first guess would be that you need the full linux-source package and not just the linux-headers package.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

net/Kconfig:225: can't open file "net/ieee80211/Kconfig"

My first guess would be that you need the full linux-source package and not just the linux-headers package.

I apt-getted the source package. Still no dice.

 

[Nothinman]

I apt-getted the source package. Still no dice.

But did you extract and configure it? If Ubuntu is like Debian all that should do is put a tarball in /usr******

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

I apt-getted the source package. Still no dice.

But did you extract and configure it? If Ubuntu is like Debian all that should do is put a tarball in /usr******

I thought that's what apt-get install was for...

I guess I have something else to try after it's done updating...

 

[Nothinman]

I thought that's what apt-get install was for...

For regular packages, sure, but not for the kernel source. I don't really know the rationale behind that but that's what it does. And remember that Debian/Ubuntu put their kernel configs in /boot/config-`uname -r` so you don't have to worry about whether the source is configured properly or not.

 

[n0cmonkey]

I'll give it a shot when the system is done updating...