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jlee

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
As they said.. shes nice but that pic looks horribly low quality, and since this isnt CSI, we cant suddenly make pixels out of nowhere, meaning youre stuck with it

Most of the face pics are only about 3-5% of what was the original picture. I zoomed in and cropped her face out. That's why it is kinda blurry, and not all are that fuzzy. I was thinking of little things, like red eye, etc.

Please guys, don't be dicks. I'm just asking for a simple atot favor, and if nobody wants to help, so be it.

"Editing, cleaning up, effects, etc.."

Dude, you don't have much to work with here. The quality is terrible.

redeye.jpg
 

shortylickens

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Aside from removing redeye there isnt much to be done.
I suppose I could try sharpening everything, but it would just look like ass.
Better if the learned how to take photos. What did he use, a camera phone?
We have a whole thread just for him: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2333244&enterthread=y


Wait, according to the EXIF data he used a Nikon D60.

WHAT THE FUCK MAN!???!? How could you possibly mess up with that bad boy?
OK, first lesson.
Your settings of 1s shutter, f 5.3 and ISO 1400 are totally bad.
Force the ISO to 100 or 200. Do NOT use auto white balance. Ever. It always gives the worst results, I promise. Manually set the white balance to whatever you were using (incandescent or flourescent) and use a good tripod. Given the lighting involved you probably wont be able to get a very short shutter, but if she sits down she'll be able to keep still for 1/125th to 1/30th of a second. In this scenario I would have to use a shorter lens to keep the noticeble movement to a minimum. Perhaps a 50mm f/1.8 Nikkor. Of course that may distort some of her features a bit.
Ideally you would get far back with a zoom lens (like around 300mm) but with a long shutter you are asking for all kinds of problems, even if you have Image Stabilization. According to the data, you are using the kit lens, right? That means no IS. You may have to invest in some more lenses soon. The kit lens is actually pretty darn good, but not as great as other stuff which costs more.

Dude, you need lighting, seriously.
http://www.dvinfo.net/articles/lighting/spears1.php
http://www.dvinfo.net/articles/lighting/hdlightkit1.php
 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Aside from removing redeye there isnt much to be done.
I suppose I could try sharpening everything, but it would just look like ass.
Better if the learned how to take photos. What did he use, a camera phone?
We have a whole thread just for him: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2333244&enterthread=y


Wait, according to the EXIF data he used a Nikon D60.

WHAT THE FUCK MAN!???!? How could you possibly mess up with that bad boy?
OK, first lesson.
Your settings of 1s shutter, f 5.3 and ISO 1400 are totally bad.
Force the ISO to 100 or 200. Do NOT use auto white balance. Ever. It always gives the worst results, I promise. Manually set the white balance to whatever you were using (incandescent or flourescent) and use a good tripod. Given the lighting involved you probably wont be able to get a very short shutter, but if she sits down she'll be able to keep still for 1/125th to 1/30th of a second. In this scenario I would have to use a shorter lens to keep the noticeble movement to a minimum. Perhaps a 50mm f/1.8 Nikkor. Of course that may distort some of her features a bit.
Ideally you would get far back with a zoom lens (like around 300mm) but with a long shutter you are asking for all kinds of problems, even if you have Image Stabilization. According to the data, you are using the kit lens, right? That means no IS. You may have to invest in some more lenses soon. The kit lens is actually pretty darn good, but not as great as other stuff which costs more.

Dude, you need lighting, seriously.
http://www.dvinfo.net/articles/lighting/spears1.php
http://www.dvinfo.net/articles/lighting/hdlightkit1.php

The thing was, she invited me over, and asked that I bring my camera. Before I know it, her, her friend, and I are downtown St. Louis, and they are all dressed up. I forgot my fucking my charged batteries to my flash (didnt think we'd be out in st. louis at night so i didnt think about it). I tried many different settings trying to grab a good photo.

I barely know how to use this thing. honestly. I've learned how to adjust fstop, etc but I'm still not keen on exactly how things will react when I make changes.

the picture in question, it was cropped from a picture where I was about 40 feet away. We snuck into an old hotel tha thas a ball room, and the only light coming in was from outside. I had no way of setting up additional lighting, etc. I got what I could.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
Aug 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Aside from removing redeye there isnt much to be done.
I suppose I could try sharpening everything, but it would just look like ass.
Better if the learned how to take photos. What did he use, a camera phone?
We have a whole thread just for him: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2333244&enterthread=y


Wait, according to the EXIF data he used a Nikon D60.

WHAT THE FUCK MAN!???!? How could you possibly mess up with that bad boy?
OK, first lesson.
Your settings of 1s shutter, f 5.3 and ISO 1400 are totally bad.
Force the ISO to 100 or 200. Do NOT use auto white balance. Ever. It always gives the worst results, I promise. Manually set the white balance to whatever you were using (incandescent or flourescent) and use a good tripod. Given the lighting involved you probably wont be able to get a very short shutter, but if she sits down she'll be able to keep still for 1/125th to 1/30th of a second. In this scenario I would have to use a shorter lens to keep the noticeble movement to a minimum. Perhaps a 50mm f/1.8 Nikkor. Of course that may distort some of her features a bit.
Ideally you would get far back with a zoom lens (like around 300mm) but with a long shutter you are asking for all kinds of problems, even if you have Image Stabilization. According to the data, you are using the kit lens, right? That means no IS. You may have to invest in some more lenses soon. The kit lens is actually pretty darn good, but not as great as other stuff which costs more.

Dude, you need lighting, seriously.
http://www.dvinfo.net/articles/lighting/spears1.php
http://www.dvinfo.net/articles/lighting/hdlightkit1.php

The thing was, she invited me over, and asked that I bring my camera. Before I know it, her, her friend, and I are downtown St. Louis, and they are all dressed up. I forgot my fucking my charged batteries to my flash (didnt think we'd be out in st. louis at night so i didnt think about it). I tried many different settings trying to grab a good photo.

I barely know how to use this thing. honestly. I've learned how to adjust fstop, etc but I'm still not keen on exactly how things will react when I make changes.

the picture in question, it was cropped from a picture where I was about 40 feet away. We snuck into an old hotel tha thas a ball room, and the only light coming in was from outside. I had no way of setting up additional lighting, etc. I got what I could.

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/Y...wsDAjello/ballroom.jpg
 

shortylickens

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Jul 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: JLee
Get one of these :)
Thats the one I have, and its AWESOME!

Highly recommend.

Also, always keep your camera battery charged.
Learn how to use it now so you wont have to figure things out at the last second.
You should take about a thousand pics a week on average. Each and every one in Manual.
After a couple months you will be ready for any hot mamma's who call you up unexpectedly.
 
Oct 27, 2007
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learn2photo. Most people use flashes as a crutch, if you're going into strobes do it properly or don't do it at all. Learn to photograph without strobing first. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS keep spare batteries and memory cards. ALWAYS.
 
Oct 27, 2007
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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: JLee
Get one of these :)
Thats the one I have, and its AWESOME!

Highly recommend.

Also, always keep your camera battery charged.
Learn how to use it now so you wont have to figure things out at the last second.
You should take about a thousand pics a week on average. Each and every one in Manual.
After a couple months you will be ready for any hot mamma's who call you up unexpectedly.

Don't listen to this. Some situations don't call for manual mode, don't feel like you have to be in manual to be taking "real" photographs. If you're in a situation where light is changing rapidly then manual mode will only cause you to miss opportunities. Be extremely wary of anyone who tells you that every photo should be taken with X [mode/composition/technique].
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: JLee
Get one of these :)
Thats the one I have, and its AWESOME!

Highly recommend.

Also, always keep your camera battery charged.
Learn how to use it now so you wont have to figure things out at the last second.
You should take about a thousand pics a week on average. Each and every one in Manual.
After a couple months you will be ready for any hot mamma's who call you up unexpectedly.

Don't listen to this. Some situations don't call for manual mode, don't feel like you have to be in manual to be taking "real" photographs. If you're in a situation where light is changing rapidly then manual mode will only cause you to miss opportunities. Be extremely wary of anyone who tells you that every photo should be taken with X [mode/composition/technique].

Thats very nice and totally unrelated to what I was talking about.

He needs to LEARN, and he cant do that in auto mode. Thats why he took a crappy pic with a hot chick. He didnt know what he was doing. He even admitted he didnt know what he was doing. And learning was the subject of my post.
 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: JLee
Get one of these :)
Thats the one I have, and its AWESOME!

Highly recommend.

Also, always keep your camera battery charged.
Learn how to use it now so you wont have to figure things out at the last second.
You should take about a thousand pics a week on average. Each and every one in Manual.
After a couple months you will be ready for any hot mamma's who call you up unexpectedly.

Don't listen to this. Some situations don't call for manual mode, don't feel like you have to be in manual to be taking "real" photographs. If you're in a situation where light is changing rapidly then manual mode will only cause you to miss opportunities. Be extremely wary of anyone who tells you that every photo should be taken with X [mode/composition/technique].

Thats very nice and totally unrelated to what I was talking about.

He needs to LEARN, and he cant do that in auto mode. Thats why he took a crappy pic with a hot chick. He didnt know what he was doing. He even admitted he didnt know what he was doing. And learning was the subject of my post.

yes, I need to learn. That was part of the reason she wanted me to take the pics. i had previously said I needed more experience, and the next day she invited me over and said bring my camera. I actually got alot of good shots, some not so good. These face pics though, are cropped out of huge photos that have her, a car, and a background. What I cropped is usually just 5% of the picture, at most.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Fair enough but the 5% we got is noisy and low quality. Try getting in much closer so when you crop you still have plenty to work with.
Also, you need a better flash than the built-in one. If the SB-600 is too expensive go for a cheaper one. Its still better. And put a bean bag in your camera kit. When able, plop the bean bag on a table or chair and set the camera in it. Then you can use a slower shutter and not have to worry about movement. Its much smaller than a tripod as well.
 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Fair enough but the 5% we got is noisy and low quality. Try getting in much closer so when you crop you still have plenty to work with.
Also, you need a better flash than the built-in one. If the SB-600 is too expensive go for a cheaper one. Its still better. And put a bean bag in your camera kit. When able, plop the bean bag on a table or chair and set the camera in it. Then you can use a slower shutter and not have to worry about movement. Its much smaller than a tripod as well.

thanks for the advice.

here's a better pic

pic
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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I know nothing about photo editing, but I'd just like to add that I'd hit it - for whatever that's worth.
 

gorcorps

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Jul 18, 2004
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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I know nothing about photo editing, but I'd just like to add that I'd hit it - for whatever that's worth.

AFAIK he's trying, and so far is failing

OP, we're not going to help you get laid. Do your own photo cleanup work ;)
 

UpgradeFailure

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Feb 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: Mike Gayner
OP fails at photography.

Agreed, if she is trying to get a modeling gig or something with these pictures she's better off not even applying, it would give a bad impression. Tell her to invest in a decent camera (You can get a Nikon D40 kit at target for under $300 on clearance). You can take her pictures with a good camera at least. Then you can work on the lighting and everything else.
 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Originally posted by: Mike Gayner
OP fails at photography.

Agreed, if she is trying to get a modeling gig or something with these pictures she's better off not even applying, it would give a bad impression. Tell her to invest in a decent camera (You can get a Nikon D40 kit at target for under $300 on clearance). You can take her pictures with a good camera at least. Then you can work on the lighting and everything else.

pics were taken with a d60. The pic you see was taken in VERY low light in a ballroom that we snuck into. Not to mention, her face was cropped out of a huge photo. The pic in the OP is like only 5% of the original pic, at most. And yes, I had the ISO way up for the lighting..
 

EGGO

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Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Originally posted by: Mike Gayner
OP fails at photography.

Agreed, if she is trying to get a modeling gig or something with these pictures she's better off not even applying, it would give a bad impression. Tell her to invest in a decent camera (You can get a Nikon D40 kit at target for under $300 on clearance). You can take her pictures with a good camera at least. Then you can work on the lighting and everything else.

Well if she's looking for a modeling gig, I would need to know more of what she's trying to do, but it's more than likely not going to pass catalogue modeling.
 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
Oct 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: EGGO
Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Originally posted by: Mike Gayner
OP fails at photography.

Agreed, if she is trying to get a modeling gig or something with these pictures she's better off not even applying, it would give a bad impression. Tell her to invest in a decent camera (You can get a Nikon D40 kit at target for under $300 on clearance). You can take her pictures with a good camera at least. Then you can work on the lighting and everything else.

Well if she's looking for a modeling gig, I would need to know more of what she's trying to do, but it's more than likely not going to pass catalogue modeling.

She's not trying to get into modeling at all. This was all just for fun.
 
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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Originally posted by: Mike Gayner
OP fails at photography.

Agreed, if she is trying to get a modeling gig or something with these pictures she's better off not even applying, it would give a bad impression. Tell her to invest in a decent camera (You can get a Nikon D40 kit at target for under $300 on clearance). You can take her pictures with a good camera at least. Then you can work on the lighting and everything else.

pics were taken with a d60. The pic you see was taken in VERY low light in a ballroom that we snuck into. Not to mention, her face was cropped out of a huge photo. The pic in the OP is like only 5% of the original pic, at most. And yes, I had the ISO way up for the lighting..

Not much point bumping the ISO if you're using a flash.