Good op-ed from David Brooks, "Dems, Please Don’t Drive Me Away"

[jackstar7]

Theoretically he needs to make some efforts to court Dems or how will he stand a chance at winning with sub-40% support?

Or do conservatives admit that things are so damn rigged it won't matter?

 

[glenn1]

Theoretically he needs to make some efforts to court Dems or how will he stand a chance at winning with sub-40% support?

Or do conservatives admit that things are so damn rigged it won't matter?

For any sitting POTUS about 1/3 of the electorate will vote for him no matter what, another 1/3 will vote against him no matter what. The normal 1/3 "vote against" floor is probably more like 43% or more with Trump so that still leaves 24% who theoretically could be persuaded to vote for him. I doubt he'll bother to try to persuade hardcore Dems as at best he'd peel off a handful for whatever reason, but will make the pitch for the remaining fraction who haven't already made up their minds. For them I'm guessing it will be on how the economy has been doing reasonably well since (read: despite) he's been in office. For perhaps any other POTUS that might be enough since voters tend to be loath to change things when the economy is good but he's not the typical president and that might not save him since he'll probably need to gain closer to 2/3 of the remaining undecided voters to get from his core 33% vote share to the win.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Theoretically he needs to make some efforts to court Dems or how will he stand a chance at winning with sub-40% support?

Or do conservatives admit that things are so damn rigged it won't matter?

Nope, conservatives will show up to vote yet again because there's a high chance that at least one liberal Supreme Court Justice will vacate a seat and they'll finally have their chance to overturn Roe v Wade (and probably some other insane shit) by getting enough of a majority that will make Roberts or someone from dissenting not matter. Or something something immigrants or guns. Take your pick of single issues that they can get people that fully know how horrible Republicans are for the country to vote for them. I think there's a bunch of those people on here. Ones that hate Turmp but every so often you clearly see they almost absolutely voted for him because of various idiotic reasons, and are now looking for ways to rationalize doing so again.

Certainly don't overlook further election meddling either.

 

[jackstar7]

For any sitting POTUS about 1/3 of the electorate will vote for him no matter what, another 1/3 will vote against him no matter what. The normal 1/3 "vote against" floor is probably more like 43% or more with Trump so that still leaves 24% who theoretically could be persuaded to vote for him. I doubt he'll bother to try to persuade hardcore Dems as at best he'd peel off a handful for whatever reason, but will make the pitch for the remaining fraction who haven't already made up their minds. For them I'm guessing it will be on how the economy has been doing reasonably well since (read: despite) he's been in office. For perhaps any other POTUS that might be enough since voters tend to be loath to change things when the economy is good but he's not the typical president and that might not save him since he'll probably need to gain closer to 2/3 of the remaining undecided voters to get from his core 33% vote share to the win.

I really want to know more about people who haven't made up their minds about Trump.

I assume they ride unicorns.

 

[zinfamous]

I really want to know more about people who haven't made up their minds about Trump.

I assume they ride unicorns.

Oh, they've made up their minds about Trump. They just haven't yet formulated the proper excuse as to no matter "How terrible Trump certainly is in all of the many ways; why, I just can't vote for [this particular Democrat] for exactly this one reason!"

That's about how it rolls. Then, watch the little GOP bitches here line up in formation and goose step around with that nonsense come 2020

 

[jackstar7]

Oh, they've made up their minds about Trump. They just haven't yet formulated the proper excuse as to no matter "How terrible Trump certainly is in all of the many ways; why, I just can't vote for [this particular Democrat] for exactly this one reason!"

That's about how it rolls. Then, watch the little GOP bitches here line up in formation and goose step around with that nonsense come 2020

I have no doubts about that.

Quite possibly the most polarizing U.S. president, but people still go on about "undecided" voters.

I understand that many people try their best to avoid politics, but that head in the sand nonsense just doesn't work with Trump, mostly because he's so fucking demanding for attention.