Good cable modem for Comcast?

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yurivict

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I need to buy DOCSIS3 modem that will work flawlessly with Comcast.

The problem I have: many DOCSIS3 modems don't work well with Comcast. For example, Cisco DPC3010 doesn't, Cisco DPC3008 should work, but there are many problems that users experienced, based on googling. Motorola SB6121 also causes problems, connections disappear. Zoom 5341 also has issues. I hit this problem with many other modems listed as compatible on this page: http://mydeviceinfo.comcast.net

Now I know, that this one model, Ubee DDM3513, works with Comcast. This is the modem that technician left for me to use on lease.

What are the other choices of DOCSIS3 modems that are rock-solid with Comcast? I just don't want to have to call them or have some random issues.

It is amazing, that Comcast network is so incompatible with various modems. Is this the issue with modems themselves, or with Comcast? I suspect that latter.
 

Dulanic

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My SB6121 works fine with Comcast. Sounds more like a connection issue.
 

ImDonly1

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The motorola and zoom modems all work fine without problems.

The cisco modems did have problems with disconnects, but that was caused by a bad firmware comcast made for the modem. It was reverted to an older firmware and the problems were fixed.

So, yes maybe you found some threads online that people had problems with the modems. It could have been caused by early firmwares for the modems since the modems are somewhat new.

Also docsis 3 is slightly more sensitive to noise than docsis 2.0. So people with bad signal running docsis 2.0, upgrade to 3.0 and get problems with disconnects. Not really the modem's fault.

I would buy whatever is cheapest or whatever brand you like. Personally, I would get the SB6121 or 6141 depending if you want a 8 downstream channels or not (and cost). Also FYI, there are different versions of the 5341. There is the 5341 which does 4 downstream channels and the 5341J which does 8.

I would still probably avoid the cisco modems not sure if they are 100% fixed or not. Haven't really looked into it.
 
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chin311

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Another vote for Motorola Surfboard's.

I have the Motorola SB6120, got mine used on eBay for around $50. Can usually find em' even cheaper. Not a single issue in over 6 months here..
 

sze5003

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Another vote for Motorola Surfboard's.

I have the Motorola SB6120, got mine used on eBay for around $50. Can usually find em' even cheaper. Not a single issue in over 6 months here..

Got this one last year for 30 on eBay pretty much new. Works great and functions on Comcast business or residential internet service.
 

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Also using a SB6121 here. Just buy one with 3 stars on their compatibility list, so they can't blame your modem if there are connection problems. Only problem with the recent Motorola modems is obnoxiously bright LED's, but nothing some tape can't fix.
 

Cabletek

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and I generally direct people to dslreports.com to see what the users there say, while a bunch of anti cable mongrels they do know their user side hardware fairly well, just don't necessarily trust their over the computer diagnostic of your comcast plant outside they have never touched unless they work for the company and are looking into the monitoring software to get their info.

I need to buy DOCSIS3 modem that will work flawlessly with Comcast.

The problem I have: many DOCSIS3 modems don't work well with Comcast. For example, Cisco DPC3010 doesn't, Cisco DPC3008 should work, but there are many problems that users experienced, based on googling. Motorola SB6121 also causes problems, connections disappear. Zoom 5341 also has issues. I hit this problem with many other modems listed as compatible on this page: http://mydeviceinfo.comcast.net

Now I know, that this one model, Ubee DDM3513, works with Comcast. This is the modem that technician left for me to use on lease.

What are the other choices of DOCSIS3 modems that are rock-solid with Comcast? I just don't want to have to call them or have some random issues.

It is amazing, that Comcast network is so incompatible with various modems. Is this the issue with modems themselves, or with Comcast? I suspect that latter.

So no modem is safe the rock solid SB6120 had a bad firmware that bricked modems at one time in the early stages of D3 deployment. True story, people have screamed at me and had me leave their house becasue of it over this. they bought a modem the firmware was bad and it did not work. I am pretty sure Motorola could re burn it but I cannot and so... It happened to charter, and TWC as well, lots of pissed off people.

This was a long time ago though, they are the longest existing modem on Comcast systems so they have less issues now as all the bugs have been worked out mainly. Any modem has the potential to have some issues though. even if its rock solid now the next firmware release from the manufacturer could go bad. As someone who installs these 40 hours a week I am not a big fan of cisco/scientific atlanta, but its all firmware related, they have just had bad after bad starting with the DPC3000 [and honestly the Scientific Atlanta ones before that as they are the same company].

Zoom seems to get a good thumbs up since it now supports 8 channels on the downstream with its current chip set, which again unless you are subscribing to something over 100 Mb/s is all show off stats and nothing decisive one way or the other.

As to your compatibility question it is incompatible with the CMTS, there are 3 maybe four major makers of cable eq, Cisco/Scientific Atlanta who is trying to get out of the business, Motorola [who I think is actually trying to get out too after Google bought them], Arris, and RCA. I think I missed one, but, anyway.

They each make different cmts hardware, which stands for Cable modem termination system, and is the big system that gets put in the cable head end [bunch of computers that modulate , decrypt, demodulate, and encrypt data to/from sat/fiber feeds to HFC {hybrid fiber coax} feeds, etc...] this cmts must support a modem via firmware, config files, and boot files, if its the makers did not get with that cmts company and help them do this it is not going to work. Plain and simple. So its an issue between the modem maker and the cmts producer in all honesty. After that, it is probably a he said-she said type of thing but it may be the modem makers fault for not getting their modem supported on that cmts or it may be the cmts makers fault for not getting that modem on their system or it may just be real bad communication from both. In either case its not going to help you at this time.

As to the modems, the only thing I can say is make sure its on that list I have had one sub who bought a SB6180 and that model was not supported at that time. No idea now this was a few months ago.

Only other advise, if you want wireless get a separate or side car router not an ALL IN ONE as they pretty much all suck.

That said the list you linked is for residential only of you want business as far as I know you must not have a static IP and you can only use a few Motorola modems. Otherwise it is a ubee [only seen one but I seen it so I know they exist] or SMC gateway they provide you with is the only option and the usability of Motorola personal modems for business class may be limited by the FFO you are working out of. That is to say no one has ever been able to provide me in writing where we say this, but I have seen some businesses with their own Motorola SB6120.
 
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sze5003

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I have the business class starter internet for my apartment. I use the sb 6120 and its fine. The only issue I had was when they were trying to activate it. It would not activate via the Comcast portal or it took a few days because I got it connected then called them and they said if you used the portal it should be ok. A few days later it was disconnected so I called again and the business class end had a different way of connecting the modem. They just sent a signal and I had to wait.

So far as I know you can activate it yourself if you have residential service and use that modem. It must have been because their system saw my modem but the account and info is seperate for Comcast residential vs business.
 

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SB6120.

Had it for over 2 years and never a problem. Comcast rolls out fairly frequent firmware updates for this model too (at least in my area) which increases performance.
 

ImDonly1

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This was a long time ago though, they are the longest existing modem on comcast systems so they have less issues now as all the bugs have been worked out mainly. Any modem has the potential to have some issues though. even if its rock solid now the next firmware release from the manufacturer could go bad. As someone who installs these 40 hours a week I am not a big fan of cisco/scientific atlanta, but its all firmware related, they have just had bad after bad starting with the DPC3000 [and honestly the Scientific Atlanta ones before that as they are the same company].

As to the modems, the only thing I can say is make sure its on that list I have had one sub who bought a SB6180 and that model was not supported at that time. No idea now this was a few months ago.

Informative post, but doesn't comcast modify the firmwares for the modems? The manufacturer can make whatever firmware they want, but comcast always edits it.

Also the 6180 is not official supported, but I have seen people on dslreports say it can be activated if you pm one of the comcast employees on there. They don't offer support for it though.
 

Genx87

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May I ask what speed you are paying for? Extreme105?

I got an email from them last week about doubling my speed from 25mbps to 50mpbs. But so far it seems to be unrestricted on the speed. I bet if I tried it at 3 am it would push over 100mbps.

I am paying for the most basic package they have. Digital economy cable + internet. Total is 89 bucks\month.
 

sze5003

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I got an email from them last week about doubling my speed from 25mbps to 50mpbs. But so far it seems to be unrestricted on the speed. I bet if I tried it at 3 am it would push over 100mbps.

I am paying for the most basic package they have. Digital economy cable + internet. Total is 89 bucks\month.

Lucky you I have the business class starter and their speed is only 16mbps. I need to find out when the contract ends so I can just get the residential internet rolled in with my cable.
 

Genx87

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I know right? I seem to have had really good luck with cable companies. Even comcrap!
Seems like I always have a pretty solid deal on internet speed\price. I used to have mediacom in 05 and was spending 42\month and getting a 12Mbps line. Then i went to charter that ended at 29.99\month for a 16mbps line in 2011. Comcrap put me on a 15mbps line + cable TV for 89.99 and it went to 25mbps about a year ago and now they doubled it to 50mbps for the same price. But that 50mbps seems to be much faster than 50mbps.
 

sze5003

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I'm sure I get speeds faster than 16mpbs some days but I would save some money if I could bundle. Their business class service is much more professional and top notch compared to the residential trouble shooting.
 

MadScientist

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I have Comcast and a Motorola SBG6580 modem/router. Some people don't like the combos but this has worked flawlessly for 2 years.
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/SBG6580-SURFboard%C2%AE-eXtreme-Wireless-Cable-Modem/70902,en_US,pd.html

Comcast bill with taxes and fees: $58.99/month, $34.99 for internet with Powerboost ~33Mbps down, and $21.95 for limited basic cable. You won't find their basic cable price on their website, have to call. I get the same number of channels as their Digital Starter package.
 
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Cabletek

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Informative post, but doesn't comcast modify the firmwares for the modems? The manufacturer can make whatever firmware they want, but comcast always edits it.

Also the 6180 is not official supported, but I have seen people on dslreports say it can be activated if you pm one of the comcast employees on there. They don't offer support for it though.

I believe most customization is in the config and boot files, there are of course minor issues they may communicate back to the company and have them make minor corrections to, but for the most part Motorola or whoever is doing the coding of their hardware. Since a good bit of that is proprietary and not divulged to the third parties as far as I understand it.

Interesting on the SB6180, just goes to show how great my comapny is at communicating with its own employees, but meh, it pays. Only seen one so far and that was probably 6 months ago, so.
 
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I've been debating between SB6121, SB6141 or Zoom 5341J. I have one of those crap Cisco modems that drops all the time. I think before i buy anything I'm going to have Comcast come out and inspect the line, supposedly everything looks good from Comcast online techs.
 
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Xenon1337

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I have the Motorola SB5120 since about one year now and didn't have any problems with it until last week, when suddenly the mbps rate dropped to 20 ..
i called comcast under(800)266-2278 but they couldn't help me much, so now i'm considering either a change to the zoom 5350 modem, or a change to another internet provider.
what is a man without fast internet...
 
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