Gonna attempt to preserve my 7 year old laptop by upgrading it

[igor_kavinski]

Make sure that the M.2 slot in your laptop is NVMe and not M.2 SATA. If, for some reason, you wanna go insane on the SSD without caring about price, Samsung 980 Pro 512GB isn't that expensive. You will probably need to re-install Windows if you want to boot from the NVMe SSD (you could try using Macrium Reflect after booting from SATA SSD to clone it to the NVMe SSD but afterwards, I'm not sure if it will boot successfully).

Your current 256GB SATA SSD is MLC (so it's good) but again, if price is no objection, you could choose the Kingston DC500M. Enterprise SSD with guaranteed response times. I can relate to your desire to make an old laptop fast. It's the sort of thing I would sink my money into too, just for the heck of it.

 

[igor_kavinski]

If it's 7th gen, not that old. I'm still happy with a 3rd gen Thinkpad, 4th gen Asus laptop with IPS display and an i7-5775C desktop.

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-E5-575G-57D4-15-6-Inches-Notebook-i5-7200U/dp/B01LD4MGY4

• 15.6" Full HD Widescreen Comfy View LED-backlit Display supporting Acer Color Blast technology

Probably IPS. Marketing speak like that hurts my brain.

 

[Naer]

Gonna go with this. I think it's neat that all my computer components are Taiwanese. My desktop and desktop monitor are acer as well

Amazon.com: Acer FA100 512GB SSD - M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 x 4 NVMe Interface, 8 Gb/s, 3D NAND Internal Solid State Hard Drive Up to 3200 MB/s - BL.9BWWA.119 : Electronics

 

[Captante]

Yeah, 512 gb nvme isn't that much more expensive. THen again, like you said, would I even use it

Be careful about going any bigger... supposedly that laptop has issues with anything larger then 512 gb in the M2.

Also if you are going this route (which I don't recommend) you should clean-install Windows on the NVME and use the SATA for storage.

 

[sdifox]

Gonna go with this. I think it's neat that all my computer components are Taiwanese. My desktop and desktop monitor are acer as well

Amazon.com: Acer FA100 512GB SSD - M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 x 4 NVMe Interface, 8 Gb/s, 3D NAND Internal Solid State Hard Drive Up to 3200 MB/s - BL.9BWWA.119 : Electronics

Acer is slapping its logo on SSDs and RAM made by a company called Biwin

Prices and release dates have not yet been shared.

www.theverge.com

Taiwanese branded, not necessarily made in Taiwan.

 

[Captante]

That Accer drive isn't actually garbage but it certainly wouldn't be my first choice.... I would shop around and read a few reviews not buy based on name ROTFL.

 

[Muse]

Gonna replace the battery cause it doesn’t hold a charge anymore. Gonna add a stick of ram(8 gb) to make that 16gb. And I’m gonna replace the ssd with a faster larger capacity ssd
Wished the cpu in my laptop wasn’t soldered tho. I’d upgrade that too. But it's fine
I could just buy a new laptop if I needed one(I don’t) My desktop is really good
Just want the experience of upgrading the laptop. I have history with this notebook computer. I think it’s cool that I’m keeping it

The laptop is an Acer e5-575g

The only new laptop I have ever bought that wasn't a Lenovo was an Acer and it's the only laptop I've ever owned that that is not still working and in my possession. It got very little use but it still died an early death. I'd never buy another Acer, of course. I bought an Acer monitor too, IIRC, it too was bottom of the barrel compared to the others I've owned. The 2 Lenovo P1 laptops I've bought in recent years are worlds ahead of any other laptop I've ever encountered. 32GB RAM, at least for me, makes all the difference, for openers.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I'd never buy another Acer, of course.

/thread

 

[Captante]

/thread

At one point JUST before I was into/aware of overclocking I built a slot-1 Pentium II 350 system with an A-Open AX6BC BX-chipset motherboard.

Board was rock-solid stable and very well made with a nice BIOS but tweaking/OC'ing features were disappointing at best. (I didn't really know what I was looking for when I bought it)

 

[Red Squirrel]

I oddly kinda miss that era of computing, I was still really new to computers so they seemed so cool and mysterious at the time. That and it seemed there was something new worth upgrading to at least every year as things were progressing really fast. Now days when I do a build I just want the dang thing to work because I think of all the money I spent. I find we have also reached a plateau where there is less reason to want to upgrade. Not necessarily a bad thing though since hardware has a longer useful life.

Though if I want to go back to that "mysterious" feeling and not know what I'm doing I just need to try to use a Mac or Windows 10 lol.

 

[Muse]

At one point JUST before I was into/aware of overclocking I built a slot-1 Pentium II 350 system with an A-Open AX6BC BX-chipset motherboard.

Board was rock-solid stable and very well made with a nice BIOS but tweaking/OC'ing features were disappointing at best. (I didn't really know what I ways looking for when I bought it)

Love all those PCI slots. I have a couple of legacy mid-tower systems, one of which I'm still using, that need multiple PCI slots.

 

[igor_kavinski]

The first mobo I got for my Sempron 2 GHz was AOpen. OC disappointing??? IT DIED when I tried to OC it. Thankfully, the shopkeeper was a nice guy and he sent the mobo back for warranty and took a small amount of money in return for a brand new ASUS mobo. It was my biggest OC ever from 2 GHz to 3 GHz Sadly, I couldn't spend as much time with it as I wanted to. I gave it to my family but a year later, it became too wonky coz I had left it at 3 GHz. The bus OC damaged the USB ports etc.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Though if I want to go back to that "mysterious" feeling and not know what I'm doing I just need to try to use a Mac or Windows 10 lol.

My vote is to use the Mac. And after using that for a few days, try working on Windows

 

[Muse]

I oddly kinda miss that era of computing, I was still really new to computers so they seemed so cool and mysterious at the time. That and it seemed there was something new worth upgrading to at least every yyear as things were progressing really fast.

I was swimming in that mystery when I got my first system, a used 486DX desktop with proprietary local bus. What I didn't grasp for quite some time was that the technology was progressing so quickly. I was very surprised at how quickly personal computers became obsolete without upgrading or working up (I have built some) or buying another system entirely. Nowadays it's much more like I thought it would be, paradoxically.

 

[Captante]

My vote is to use the Mac. And after using that for a few days, try working on Windows

I know my way around Macs and am not a fan sorry.

 

[Muse]

I know my way around Macs and am not a fan sorry.

I have to at my volunteer gig. Every week I have to delete a bunch of . files from my portable devices.

 

[Captante]

It was my biggest OC ever from 2 GHz to 3 GHz

The biggest overclock I've done in terms of meaningful performance gain was a Celeron 366 (66mhz fsb) to 550 (100 mhz fsb) using a special slot-1 adapter on an Abit BE6-2 P-III motherboard.

Problem with overclocking back then was that the FSB (front-side bus) controlled the speed/timing of nearly every component in the system but especially of significance the memory and the drive-controllers so running at any FSB other then 66 or 100 mhz (and later 133) caused serious data errors that sooner or later corrupted the OS.

 

[Captante]

I was swimming in that mystery when I got my first system, a used 486DX desktop with proprietary local bus. What I didn't grasp for quite some time was that the technology was progressing so quickly. I was very surprised at how quickly personal computers became obsolete without upgrading or working up (I have built some) or buying another system entirely. Nowadays it's much more like I thought it would be, paradoxically.

My actual "first PC" a lightly used Kaypro 10.

I had to "rough it" with only a single floppy! (pic from Google)

 

[igor_kavinski]

I know my way around Macs and am not a fan sorry.

Me neither. Suggested in case he wanted a good brain workout and fun WTF moments

 

[igor_kavinski]

I was swimming in that mystery when I got my first system, a used 486DX desktop with proprietary local bus.

I had the 486 DX2-66 with Vesa local bus. Always made me sad that it wasn't the more expensive DX-50 (true clockspeed. Not a double clocked 33 Mhz wuss like the DX2-66. I was a 12 year old back then).

 

[igor_kavinski]

The biggest overclock I've done in terms of meaningful performance gain was a Celeron 366 (66mhz fsb) to 550 (100 mhz fsb) using a special slot-1 adapter on an Abit BE6-2 P-III motherboard.

Before the Sempron, I used the slot adapter to OC my Celery 700 to 1 GHz on a 440BX mobo. God bless that CPU. It served me through some of my poorest years.

 

[Captante]

Before the Sempron, I used the slot adapter to OC my Celery 700 to 1 GHz on a 440BX mobo. God bless that CPU. It served me through some of my poorest years.

Wow .... that was NEARLY the "holy grail" of Coppermine Celeron OC's! (Ultimate was the 800mhz/100fsb chip @ 1066mhz/133 fsb)

Did you buy a cherry-picked CPU or just hit the old silicon lottery?



I did a bigger "mhz" OC with the Celeron 566 (Coppermine) 66 mhz FSB to 866 mhz on 100 mhz fsb and from what I was told 600 to 900 would usually work too "out of the box" but it was nowhere near the kick in the pants that 366 to 550 was. (That upgrade nearly doubled CPU performance)

My primary PC at the time was a Coppermine Pentium III 850 (100 mhz fsb) and it was substantially faster then the same core Celeron.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Did you buy a cherry-picked CPU or just hit the old silicon lottery?

I bought it from a shop after reading a review in Tech Report (I think). I think it was a later stepping and reports were saying that Coppermines were great overclockers. If it hadn't done 1 GHz, I would have been inconsolable coz I gave up a PII 350Mhz (plus extra cash) in return for the Celery and the PII was still faster in some scenarios due to having more cache.

After the Celery, I would daydream about getting a Tualatin 1.13 GHz. Thank God I didn't have enough money to get a P4. Then my daydreams shifted to desktop Dothan and finally I had money to buy a Sempron.

 

[Captante]

I bought it from a shop after reading a review in Tech Report (I think). I think it was a later stepping and reports were saying that Coppermines were great overclockers. If it hadn't done 1 GHz, I would have been inconsolable coz I gave up a PII 350Mhz (plus extra cash) in return for the Celery and the PII was still faster in some scenarios due to having more cache.

After the Celery, I would daydream about getting a Tualatin 1.13 GHz. Thank God I didn't have enough money to get a P4. Then my daydreams shifted to desktop Dothan and finally I had money to buy a Sempron.

I eventually got my hands on a 1200mhz Tualatin P-III + adapter and ran it in that same Abit BE6-2 BX motherboard @ default 100 mhz fsb. It flat refused to OC one single mhz btw.

It was my backup PC at home at the time. An OC'ed Opteron 170 was my primary gaming system and it was a LOT snappier in everything (obviously) but I used some mid-low end P4 machines at work that were pigs in comparison.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I eventually got my hands on a 1200mhz Tualatin P-III + adapter and ran it in that same Abit BE6-2 BX motherboard @ default 100 mhz fsb.

Wow. Didn't know the 440BX could run a Tualatin too. I skipped on the Tualatin Celeron coz there was a voltage difference (it needed lower voltage than my Coppermine, if I recall correctly) so didn't bother trying my luck for fear of smelling a burnt new CPU.