Going to 1070?

[Eric1987]

Is it worth it to replace my 2x290x for a 1070? I am sick and tired of dual GPU's but when they do work it's great. Rarely do they work great though.

 

[Qwertilot]

The energy savings would be quite remarkable Performance is going to be > than a single 290x but not outrageously so.

If you want that you'll have to wait for the big first gen 14nm chips, although those won't be cheap.

 

[Elixer]

Is it worth it to replace my 2x290x for a 1070? I am sick and tired of dual GPU's but when they do work it's great. Rarely do they work great though.

What games you play the most, and at what resolution?
You could get a 480, or a 1070, or wait for Vega.

 

[Eric1987]

What games you play the most, and at what resolution?
You could get a 480, or a 1070, or wait for Vega.

I play all games at 4k. Literally the only games I don't play are strategy and card games.

 

[happy medium]

I think if you can wait for a 700$ Vega, you should just wait for a 800$ big Pascal.
The 480 will not play games at 4k.

or you could wait a month and buy a 1070 overclock it ,turn down a few settings and spend 400$.

 

[Eric1987]

I think if you can wait for a 700$ Vega, you should just wait for a 800$ big Pascal.
The 480 will not play games at 4k.

or you could wait a month and buy a 1070 overclock it ,turn down a few settings and spend 400$.

I don't care about 60 fps at 4k I just want it between 30-50 FPS and I am fine.

 

[Sweepr]

I think it's worth it. You're not missing much with a >2GHz Geforce GTX 1070, will save you power and potential headaches of multi GPU in the DX12 era.

 

[happy medium]

I don't care about 60 fps at 4k I just want it between 30-50 FPS and I am fine.

Then do it bro...go find a gtx1070 and hit the buy button.
Might be tough to find, there are plenty of people hitting the buy button.:thumbsup:

 

[RussianSensation]

Is it worth it to replace my 2x290x for a 1070? I am sick and tired of dual GPU's but when they do work it's great. Rarely do they work great though.

If you are not mining, then it's worth it if you plan on getting 2x 1070 eventually.

IMO, good experience for 4K will still need 2xGTX1070 cards but at least you'll have one of them.

Read this review:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-gtx-1080-2-way-sli-review,1.html

Just be realistic in your expectations. GTX1070 is a fast card but it's not going to be much faster than R9 290X CF when CF works.

Check the reviews of 1070 at 4K to see if it'd meet your expectations.
http://www.techspot.com/review/1182-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070/page2.html

 

[VulgarDisplay]

I would wait. If you are looking for a good gaming experience at 4k then gtx1070 isn't quite there. In my opinion even the gtx1080 isn't a good 4k card. 1080ti and Vega should be the first true 4k gpus. Just wait.

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[Eric1987]

An update to SLI sounds good. If I do go Multi GPU again it'll be when my single GPU can handle 4k at decent frames. Can't decide. I almost want to sell my 2x290xs and just get 2x480's just for the sake of being the same price.

 

[happy medium]

I don't care about 60 fps at 4k I just want it between 30-50 FPS and I am fine.

I can easily enjoy a game with 40 to 60fps ,I know what your saying.

I also use high settings, not ultra. I really have trouble telling the difference. I mean mabe a shadow here , a rock looks different, a little better lighting effects sometimes ,but for the performance penalty I really don't find it worth it.

I'm getting too old for the hey look at my big fat gpu that can do ultra max settings.
I'd rather use high settings and save the ultra money for the ladies. J/K

 

[Kenmitch]

I'm with the wait it out crowd.

1070 doesn't look to be a 4K card too me.

I'd carefully look for reviews keeping an eye out for minimum fps and fcat if possible.

 

[Eric1987]

I don't even know what fcat is exactly.

 

[happy medium]

I don't even know what fcat is exactly.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38283302&postcount=208

Its frame times, this should help.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_1070_fcat_frametime_anaysis_review,1.html

"Frametime results tell us a lot about single and multi-GPU setups in the way they interact in framerate, latency and anomalies. You will, however, see less issues on a single GPU setup (obviously). But hey, if there is a problem, rest assured it would be exposed. Comparing apples to oranges, when you look at the charts NVIDIA still has a better overall solution as their latency differentials for each even and odd frame are a hint better. But the difference with AMD is very close, albeit we did see more glitches (as small as they are really) on the Fury. Overall we can say that both the GeForce GTX 1070 and 1080 performed exemplary in the ten FCAT tests we ran it through. Three out of ten tests were DirectX 12 enabled. The end-score is a whopping 10 out 10, all games passed our examination easily without any noticeable stutters or anomalies, and that is pretty terrific if you ask me. The massive 8 GB frame-buffer on ther GTX 1070 obviously helps out quite a bit in the more AA heavy environments, but much like the GeForce GTX 1080 does, the 1070 manages just as well. Which makes total sense considering they are nearly identical GPUs. "

 

[Eric1987]

So what is it exactly? Doesn't the FPS determine how smooth it's going to be? Or are we talking about stutters that bring it below your desired frames? I get that all the damn time with CFX.

 

[sirmo]

I would wait. If rx480 leaks are any indication I think Vega might be in another league.

 

[happy medium]

No its not just the fps that makes a game run smooth, its also the latency between frames that causes stutters.

A single card will always run smother than a 2 card setup.

"Frametime - Basically the time it takes to render one frame can be monitored and tagged with a number, this is latency. One frame can take, say, 17 ms. Higher latency can indicate a slow frame-rate, and weird latency spikes indicate a stutter, jitter, twitches; basically anomalies that are visible on your monitor.

What Do These Measurements Show?

Basically, what these measurements show are anomalies like small glitches and stutters that you can sometimes (and please do read that well, sometimes) see on-screen. Below, I'd like to run through a couple of titles with you. Keep in mind that average FPS matters more than frametime measurements."

"So on each benchmark page I will add one extra FCAT result, in here you can see the GeForce GTX 1070/1080 and Radeon R9 Fury, just a little extra for comparison's sake. As you can see, in the intro scene the Fury produces some stutters, I can visibly see these on screen, they are for real

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_1070_fcat_frametime_anaysis_review,6.html

 

[RussianSensation]

An update to SLI sounds good. If I do go Multi GPU again it'll be when my single GPU can handle 4k at decent frames. Can't decide. I almost want to sell my 2x290xs and just get 2x480's just for the sake of being the same price.

Well right now there are a total of 0 $379 GTX1070 AIB cards for sale. The cheapest one I see is $420 on pre-order.

Your 290X has already depreciated almost as much as it can. You can try putting it up for sale and see what offers you get. At the very least you'll have an idea of what the market value for your cards currently is.

Also, depending on what games you play, R9 290X CF/R9 295X2 can be beast mode in 4K.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9390/the-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review/13

If you play the latest and greatest AAA games, then I'd go GTX1070 SLI if you need a real upgrade. A single 1070 OC won't be a satisfactory enough upgrade imo.

There is also the perk of mining with R9 295X2/R9 290X CF which generates well over >$130 USD a month in profits. If you mine on your 290X cards for the next 6-7 months when you are not gaming, you should have enough $ for a free Vega/Big Pascal. I am actually in a very similar position as you are but I have 3x Hawaii cards. I want to get 1070 SLI but it's kinda hard to justify when my current cards will earn enough for free Vega CF/Big Pascal SLI by next year. You should look into it.

 

[sirmo]

No its not just the fps that makes a game run smooth, its also the latency between frames that causes stutters.

A single card will always run smother than a 2 card setup.

"Frametime - Basically the time it takes to render one frame can be monitored and tagged with a number, this is latency. One frame can take, say, 17 ms. Higher latency can indicate a slow frame-rate, and weird latency spikes indicate a stutter, jitter, twitches; basically anomalies that are visible on your monitor.

What Do These Measurements Show?

Basically, what these measurements show are anomalies like small glitches and stutters that you can sometimes (and please do read that well, sometimes) see on-screen. Below, I'd like to run through a couple of titles with you. Keep in mind that average FPS matters more than frametime measurements."

"So on each benchmark page I will add one extra FCAT result, in here you can see the GeForce GTX 1070/1080 and Radeon R9 Fury, just a little extra for comparison's sake. As you can see, in the intro scene the Fury produces some stutters, I can visibly see these on screen, they are for real

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_1070_fcat_frametime_anaysis_review,6.html

I don't know that I would use Rise of the Tomb Raider DX12 implementation to draw any conclusion. The developer themselves have said that DX12 implementation still needs a lot of work.

 

[happy medium]

I don't know that I would use Rise of the Tomb Raider DX12 implementation to draw any conclusion. The developer themselves have said that DX12 implementation still needs a lot of work.

I linked a whole article on frametimes.

 

[happy medium]

A single 1070 OC won't be a satisfactory enough upgrade imo.

I don't see why not. He already stated that he needs 30 fps+, using high setting instead of ultra, he should have no problem with that with a gtx1070.

He should easily get ~ 200$ a piece for his 290x's. I think its definitely worth spending an extra 50$ on top of the 400$ he should get for the 290x's and buy a 1070.

for no crossfire hassles? yes!, just look at the latest games, most have no crossfire option.

 

[sirmo]

I linked a whole article on frametimes.

Sure, but it's also a 4gb last gen card compared to the new crop of 8gb cards. I will wait for AMD's new gen to come out before making any comparisons.

 

[happy medium]

4gb last gen card

that makes no difference, crossfire/sli sucks.

 

[sirmo]

that makes no difference, crossfire/sli sucks.

we'll see, also I didn't say anything about sli/crossfire.