Going to 1070?

[Eric1987]

I don't see why not. He already stated that he needs 30 fps+, using high setting instead of ultra, he should have no problem with that with a gtx1070.

He should easily get ~ 200$ a piece for his 290x's. I think its definitely worth spending an extra 50$ on top of the 400$ he should get for the 290x's and buy a 1070.

for no crossfire hassles? yes!, just look at the latest games, most have no crossfire option.

Yeah and I gotta lower the settings to get it to run on one card DECENTLY. Doom is a big example.

 

[RussianSensation]

for no crossfire hassles? yes!, just look at the latest games, most have no crossfire option.

This is false. Most launch games do not have CF support but most games do. Also, way to ignore that his 290Xs have a hidden perk of making $. You know if he utilized this perk, he wouldn't have to worry about buying GTX1070 SLI for free in 6-7 months.

that makes no difference, crossfire/sli sucks.

Is that why R9 295X2 smashes 980Ti/Titan X in so many games at 4K? Since you love promoting NV cards and cherry-picking, right back at you. Do you know what an upgrade is? It means 1070 would need to be definitely better than R9 290X CF.

What do you have to say now? Be objective and state that CF/SLI has issues for the latest AAA launch games but if someone waits enough for CF/SLI profiles, GTX1070 is NOT an upgrade from R9 290X CF/R9 295X2. In fact, it's a downgrade.

Yeah and I gotta lower the settings to get it to run on one card DECENTLY. Doom is a big example.

That's why there will always be games where 1070 will perform better than R9 290 CF and there are also games where the opposite is true. Look at FC4 from AnandTech's review where R9 295X2 is almost 50% faster than a GTX980Ti! That's why I said right away the only real worthwhile upgrade from R9 290X CF is 1070 SLI or at the very least GTX1080 OC. All the #s and reviews show that too and I linked those charts before. On average a 1070 is not any faster for 4K than an R9 295X2 is.

 

[Kenmitch]

I linked a whole article on frametimes.

So you did. No results for 4k which would have been helpful.

No fcat but does show ave, min framerates in multiple games at 4k at least

http://www.pcgamer.com/the-geforce-gtx-1070-review/

 

[happy medium]

It means 1070 would need to be definitely better than R9 290X CF.

first you say I promote Nvidia cards but totally missed the "crossfire/sli"
I wrote...sli see sli included.

I don't care that the 295 beats the 1070 by a few frames when the real deal is, its a stuttering mess compared to a strong single card. You know this and I know you do.

The guy has crossfire and he already knows it.

And yes there is plenty of good games that never get a crossfire/sli profile and many more that run like crap. This whole forum will tell you that and has been saying this for ages.

The rule is when you can get away with single card performance, do it! screw crossfire /sli ..

The 1070 is faster than a titan x/gtx980 so all those all old benchmarks you listed with old games on the old 295 that finally got a crossfire /sli profile and hotfixes to improve scaling after 6 months look pretty good.

but we know the real truth, like I said crossfire and sli sucks.

So stop putting words in the op's mouth ! he said REPLACE his crossfire 290's NOT UPGRADE!

oh yea and lets not forget the virtual inferno of heat those 500 watts of cards give off compared to 150 watts.

How about 8gb 1070 vs 290x 4gb of memory at 4k with the later games out.?

 

[sirmo]

I didn't see anyone suggesting he should "upgrade" to another set of crossfire or sli cards. All most are saying is Nvidia's 10xx cards are underwhelming, wait for TI or Vega.

 

[happy medium]

I didn't see anyone suggesting he should "upgrade" to another set of crossfire or sli cards. All most are saying is Nvidia's 10xx cards are underwhelming, wait for TI or Vega.

that's an option, but how long do you want to wait is up to the op?

Next people will be saying "well the Vega cards are rumored to come in October"
Good luck with that. That's obviously a ploy from AMD to stop people from buying a fast 1080/1070 card since they have nothing coming soon to compete with them.
How about 2 480's? Well then you still have the same crossfire /sli crap all over again and will cost you ~500$ anyway.

 

[sirmo]

that's an option, but how long do you want to wait is up to the op?

Next people will be saying "well the Vega cards are rumored to come in October"
Good luck with that. That's obviously a ploy from AMD to stop people from buying a fast 1080/1070 card since they have nothing coming soon to compete with them.
How about 2 480's? Well then you still have the same crossfire /sli crap all over again.

It's not a ploy, it's a natural progression of things, you of all people should know. The best time to buy is when there is competition, we've only seen one set of cards released on finfet.

And OP doesn't seem to be in that dire of a need for an upgrade with 290x CF.

 

[RussianSensation]

he said REPLACE his crossfire 290's NOT UPGRADE!

Ya, and in some games it's a downgrade. You keep cherry-picking only the games where 1070 OC would win and ignoring all the games where R9 295X2 would win. I remember you defended GTX980 over R9 290X CF/R9 295X2 back then too. You are also ignoring how slow GTX1070 is for 4K on its own.

The average performance achieved by the 1070 at 4K per Sweclockers was 35 fps only. That's acceptable to you?

All you do is keep looking at % charts at TPU and ignoring the actual performance. 1070 is not a fast enough 4K card.

If the OP gets mining to work on his card and sees that they are making $100+ USD in profits when he is at work/at night, he is not going to want to side-grade to a single 1070 when his R9 290X CF cards will earn him enough for free Big Pascal/Vega SLI/CF by 2017.

Finance 101: GTX1070 = depreciating asset. R9 290X CF = cash flow generating asset.

At the very least, it's still smart to keep the R9 290Xs and build a separate mining rig with them while upgrading the primary gaming system to 1070 SLI. Those 290X cards will keep paying for the 1070 SLI upgrade each month.

 

[happy medium]

It's not a ploy, it's a natural progression of things, you of all people should know. The best time to buy is when there is competition, we've only see one set of cards released on finfet.

Yea the 700$+ Vega is coming just like the ZEN cpu.
Come on now, by that time the faster 800$ 1080ti will be ready to roll.:\

Hey if the op want to play the waiting game, that's his business.
but if he want to play stutter free/ no crossfire profile waiting proof gaming with an extra 4gb of memory to play with and have at least 300 watts less heat in his case he should just grab a 1070 and sell his 290x's while there still worth something .

I said my piece.:thumbsup:

 

[Bacon1]

that's an option, but how long do you want to wait is up to the op?

Next people will be saying "well the Vega cards are rumored to come in October"
Good luck with that. That's obviously a ploy from AMD to stop people from buying a fast 1080/1070 card since they have nothing coming soon to compete with them.
How about 2 480's? Well then you still have the same crossfire /sli crap all over again and will cost you ~500$ anyway.

I think if you can wait for a 700$ Vega, you should just wait for a 800$ big Pascal.
The 480 will not play games at 4k.

or you could wait a month and buy a 1070 overclock it ,turn down a few settings and spend 400$.

Apparently its only ok to tell people to wait if they wait for big pascal?

OP's question is "is it worth it", I'd say no

 

[RussianSensation]

Yea the 700$+ Vega is coming just like the ZEN cpu.
Come on now, by that time the faster 800$ 1080ti will be ready to roll.:\

Ya, and by that time R9 290X CF will earn those $800 to get the OP a free 1080Ti. But you don't want to talk about this advantage of those 500W of power. :sneaky: :thumbsup:

Perf/watt = 1070 wins
$$$ earned/watt = R9 290X CF destroys Pascal
$$$ earned/watt >>> Price/performance or perf/watt because as long as $$$ is earned, wattage is paid for. $$$ earned pays for next generation price/performance and perf/watt cards, Big Pascal, Volta, rinse and repeat. The OP is "lucky" to have bought one of the best $$$/watt cards in the world. Now he has a chance to use that power.

 

[sirmo]

Yea the 700$+ Vega is coming just like the ZEN cpu.
Come on now, by that time the faster 800$ 1080ti will be ready to roll.:\

Hey if the op want to play the waiting game, that's his business.
but if he want to play stutter free/ no crossfire profile waiting proof gaming with an extra 4gb of memory to play with and have at least 300 watts less heat in his case he should just grab a 1070 and sell his 290x's while there still worth something .

I said my piece.:thumbsup:

Yes if he wants to regret his purchase in a few months he should definitely buy the 1070 now.

 

[happy medium]

I'll leave you with this chart just add 7% for the 980ti scores for the 1070 .
see the new games at the bottom? crossfire = crap

 

[sirmo]

I'll leave you with this chart just add 7% for the 980ti scores for the 1070 .
see the new games at the bottom? crossfire = crap

Nothing that wasn't known already. But by the same token that also shows 1070 wouldn't be a noticeable upgrade in the games where CF works well. In some cases it would be a downgrade.

 

[Bacon1]

I'll leave you with this chart just add 7% for the 980ti scores for the 1070 .
see the new games at the bottom? crossfire = crap

You are missing the big picture.

He already owns the cards.

Paying $450 for a new 1070 is a massive waste of money. Even when CFX is disabled (Hitman) it ties the 980 TI.

No one plays Rise of the Tomb Raider in DX12 and DX11 it has phenomenal scaling. 390x CFX beat out 980 TI SLI

Also that chart is wrong, there should be scaling in Ashes of the Singularity but it shows regression.

 

[96Firebird]

Here we have people trying to convince the original poster that Crossfire works great, when in the first post he clearly states he wants to move away from multi-GPU. Do you guys even read the original post, or just see that an Nvidia card was mentioned and can't accept that?

Stick with single card, much more enjoyable.

 

[sirmo]

Here we have people trying to convince the original poster that Crossfire works great, when in the first post he clearly states he wants to move away from multi-GPU. Do you guys even read the original post, or just see that an Nvidia card was mentioned and can't accept that?

Stick with single card, much more enjoyable.

That's a giant leap of logic there. I have not seen a single person suggest he should buy a rx480 CF. Everyone agrees single GPU is more of a carefree experience. It's just that now that he has a CF solution he should wait for more powerful cards to come out before pulling a trigger.

 

[Kenmitch]

That's a giant leap of logic there. I have not seen a single person suggest he should buy a rx480 CF. Everyone agrees single GPU is more of a carefree experience. It's just that now that he has a CF solution he should wait for more powerful cards to come out before pulling a trigger.

Actually the OP did mention it

An update to SLI sounds good. If I do go Multi GPU again it'll be when my single GPU can handle 4k at decent frames. Can't decide. I almost want to sell my 2x290xs and just get 2x480's just for the sake of being the same price.

 

[sirmo]

Actually the OP did mention it

yeah the OP did, but I think most everyone is telling him to either wait or get a 1070/80

 

[tential]

I'll be the first to say then that rx 480 cf > gtx 1070 every day of the week.

1070 is a weak value card. It's more expensive than the 970 with even less Performance

 

[amenx]

I'll be the first to say then that rx 480 cf > gtx 1070 every day of the week.

1070 is a weak value card. It's more expensive than the 970 with even less Performance

Stop spreading fud.

 

[Kenmitch]

Stop spreading fud.

Did you pick the wrong image? I don't even see the RX 480 crossfire listed at all.

 

[Sweepr]

Did you pick the wrong image? I don't even see the RX 480 crossfire listed at all.

Neither do I, so why is he already recommending it?

Here's the FUD part:

1070 is a weak value card. It's more expensive than the 970 with even less Performance

 

[Head1985]

Its 50% more expensive for 50% more performance.So perf/price is same.

 

[Kenmitch]

Neither do I, so why is he already recommending it?

Here's the FUD part:

Maybe he should have clarified that quote better. I took it as less performance than the 480 CF option.

OP should wait to see how Polaris CF benchmarks turn out if he's somewhat interested in it.

Really he should wait for Vega or 1080Ti for a possible single card 4k solution.