Going liquid cooled. Experts chime in on parts!

[Subyman]

A quick comment about air flow in the 800D. After a lot of experimenting with my setup (360 rad top mounted), I found that I had the best temps all around pulling air through the top and blowing it out the back and bottom. I have the 2x140's blowing air out of the back and down into the PSU chamber. The 3x120mms on the top pull down, so that cool outside air goes through the main radiator. This is the best set up from my experience and from what I have seen from others.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Aig. Your still pushing Koolance parts I see . I to was a big Koolance user. But The last couple of products I bought were of poor quality. Also Koolance is lieing about the construction . This part here I link to is a example. The scews that holds the face plate on were to short and bad fastening quality. More like wood screw and only 2 turns holding in place .

Heres the part.
http://www.koolance.com/water-cooling/product_info.php?product_id=1164

Look at pic you see were the stainless steal top cover is . This is a glued together part. Not 1 piece as koolance claims.

This is what koolance says .

TNK-501 is a single 5.25" bay reservoir. Machined from a solid piece of acetal for maximum reliability, it has a thick acrylic window, front aluminum bezel, and stainless steel top cover. TNK-501 features 8 total G 1/4 BSP threaded sockets: 2 on top, 2 on bottom, and 4 on the back. 6 socket plugs are included.
These reservoirs are made from 2 pieces of Acetal not 1 piece as claimed

 

[OVerLoRDI]

Mostly fixed my flow issue. My CPU block was gunked up pretty bad. There are rumors of PT-Nuke causing issues with primochill tubing and I think that is where my junk came from. Currently my loop is just silver and distilled. I'm going to check my pumps this weekend and see if they are gunked up. GPU blocks were clean when I checked them.

Linx max temp:
62C @ 4.5ghz.
It is hard for me to judge if that is a good temp for a 140 and 120mm rad.

 

[OVerLoRDI]

A quick comment about air flow in the 800D. After a lot of experimenting with my setup (360 rad top mounted), I found that I had the best temps all around pulling air through the top and blowing it out the back and bottom. I have the 2x140's blowing air out of the back and down into the PSU chamber. The 3x120mms on the top pull down, so that cool outside air goes through the main radiator. This is the best set up from my experience and from what I have seen from others.

I can't imagine that working well for me. The heat coming off my top radiator when my 6970s are bitcoining is immense. Obviously I can't quantify it, but it feels like a heater vent. Turning that heat around and dumping it into the case doesn't seem like it would result in better temps for my CPU or the rest of my hardware in general.

It would make sense from an air flow perspective though.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Mostly fixed my flow issue. My CPU block was gunked up pretty bad. There are rumors of PT-Nuke causing issues with primochill tubing and I think that is where my junk came from. Currently my loop is just silver and distilled. I'm going to check my pumps this weekend and see if they are gunked up. GPU blocks were clean when I checked them.

Linx max temp:
62C @ 4.5ghz.
It is hard for me to judge if that is a good temp for a 140 and 120mm rad.

It depends I guess on what ambient air is . Water temp into rad Vs. water temp out of raid. T delta that I would have if I ran those temps would be pretty high. over 20c T - delta vs. my old old gamer setup. So I think thats really high temps . But I to don't know as I haven't ever used the same parts you selected. A little advice , From your other post I know your pretty smart guy. Use your own common sense . My aircooled 2500k at 4.5 gets to about 72c thats with a Copper Zalman . Not the best air coolar and a bad airflow case.

On your gunk . water silver should be fine . But watch yourself the shills are tring to move the gunk off of the true causes of coolant faiure with distilled to conductivity. Just a heads up. I will say that if you use something other than distilled water. The koolance liquid is very good stuff. I to use distilled and silver . Not an issue in 4 years

A little heads up on your new reservoir. If your using the D5 pumps stay with what koolance sells for pumps . as mounted the way Koolance mounted them voids pump manufacture warranty . They mounted it the one and only way its not allowed

 

[Grooveriding]

I love my 800D. I have a 360 in the top and a 240 modded into the bottom chamber.

For the top I have 3 1850 GTs pushing air through the rad into the case. The fans are actually mounted outside of the case on top with a Koolance shroud over them for aesthetics. My 240 on the bottom has 2 1850GTs under it inside the case, pushing fresh air through the rad from the bottom of the case.

I use this lian li triple 5.25 bay adapter that has a black metal grill on the front and allows the mounting of a 120mm fan. So that pulls air in through the front. In the back I have a 140mm fan pushing air out the back and is the only exhaust fan.

My temps are decent enough. My CPU idles at 23-27 on the first four cores, the last two cores idle at 33-39. Don't ask me why this is, but I've had two different 3930K chips and they both behaved the same way, I've also used two different CPU blocks and different mounting orientations. I believe this is simply a characteristic of SB-E 2011 chips.

My loads in prime small ffts are mid 50s to mid 60s, again with the mid 60s being those two warmer cores. This is @ 4.7 with 1.35V. If I am running 5ghz it's with 1.49V and all my temps are about 5C higher respectively.

800D is a boss of a case once you mod it and I love the clean simple look of it. I'll be adding my two new gpus to the loop once my blocks arrive in the mail.

I'm using EK stuff with a triple bridge with the middle using a blank as my mobo's x16 slots are 1 and 3. I'm a little nervous about the EK bridge adapter as I worry about so many possible points of failure on it for a leak. Each link from one GPU to the bridge has 4 ports that could fail, along with the 2 ports on the back of the GPU block that you seal. Then there are the middle ports of the bridge I'm using a blank adapter on. Then another GPU with the same 6 ports. Along with the inlet/outlet from the bridge. 😀

That bridge makes me nervous.

 

[OVerLoRDI]

My experience with the EK bridge has been really good. I wouldn't worry too much Groover, just take installation slow since it does add a few more points of failure.

 

[Nemesis 1]

I had to put my pic in as avatar as I have no option in my Post to add Pics or Smiles . Man if I were a minority I would have a field day with that. Sorry about the promised pics . and the poor view you getting from an otherwise beautiful setup . This one here is number 4 that I am working on presently . I haven't anodized it as of yet as I don't have the color solution the Customers want . I sold 3 Pcs in 2 hours a record for me . These will all be custom painted and all 3 go to names we all know.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Well its is indeed interseting. Even my wife is amazed that there was no replies to the above post . I laid it on the line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxqpEQ-icF8

I not disappointed at all. Saves me the trouble of showing off my work to those who really don't care about innovation in case modding. Its true I don't do fancy lighting . I stay with With case design/mods in installation of the finest parts Wiring that is to die for . If you can see the wires that is . No stupid water lines making the inside look even worse than stock rigs . . This is the first time I went to allready avaiable Reservoir pump system were its been highly modified . Normaly I would have used my own designed set up . The cost is just to high to go that route anylonger. I will only be doing 6 using the koolamce modified dual reservoir set up As pictured . I will steal use the prototype face plate and the utility patent I applied for with this modified reservoir pump setup.
I not surprized that none said anything about it . But I was surprized that none said . Why I don't have a option to add pics to my post . My wife asked if I just posted the pic maybe thats all I needed to do. Could it be that simple . I don't believe thats the way it was befor . I not even going to try now. I layed it on the line. Can't wait to see the big boys copy my work . Its not as simple as it looks its the reservoirS/Pumps were the real innovation is . My racing background paid off big on this one . Even I was surprized at how well it all works. Flow Flow Flow my boat. BS! Pressure pressure pressure on todays water blocks is the answer to cooling . Thats why all the Cpu water block makers use those goofy nozzels . I used Steam nossels 9 years ago Fan type.
Any way someone should have replied and said . HAY! Dummy heres how you post pics in a thread . LOL

 

[Zargon]

you have to use a pic hosting place like photobucket or flikr

 

[Nemesis 1]

you have to use a pic hosting place like photobucket or flikr

Thanks for the reply. You know how us guys are always for the latest greatest Hardware /Software I do have smilies . Posting I pic from your PC. isn't rocket science. I have only 1 other time posted a pic of anything other than UTube. On thr net . That was 6 years ago at XS. It was easy. and I didn't need a host site . So using another site is like cave man crap to me . I don't have a facebook account or a pic hosting site. So I guess I won't post pics. Its easier to make a movie and edit than to take a step backwards in time. But thanks a LOT for posting . I do have smilies again . I will try one and see if it goes ware I place it . Or if it does something retarded like it has been . When I have them . It should have been at the end of last sentance like it has here in the past and everywhere else does. Well as you see it didn't . LOL

 

[Zargon]

Thanks for the reply. You know how us guys are always for the latest greatest Hardware /Software I do have smilies . Posting I pic from your PC. isn't rocket science. I have only 1 other time posted a pic of anything other than UTube. On thr net . That was 6 years ago at XS. It was easy. and I didn't need a host site . So using another site is like cave man crap to me . I don't have a facebook account or a pic hosting site. So I guess I won't post pics. Its easier to make a movie and edit than to take a step backwards in time. But thanks a LOT for posting . I do have smilies again . I will try one and see if it goes ware I place it . Or if it does something retarded like it has been . When I have them . It should have been at the end of last sentance like it has here in the past and everywhere else does. Well as you see it didn't . LOL

uh......ok?

 

[T_Yamamoto]

you seem to rant....alot
also your avatar=too small to see anything

since you did that, we cannot comment on anything

 

[OVerLoRDI]

Oh hey, a really big box!

mmmmm

Assembly complete! Working inside the Caselabs M8 was the easiest thing ever. The build quality is incredible and the modularity of the case is second to none. I should have just bought on of these to start with 🙄

I have a bunch of bitspower rotary and angle fittings on the way to clean this mess up

D: I have a shipment en route of everything I need to clean this mess up. Got a bunch of sleeving, some fan adapters, the necessary wire and plugs to make my own fan wires and modular PSU cables. Should be pristine when finished. That will be a week or two from now. Have to travel for business next week.

 

[Zargon]

damn!

 

[dawp]

they are nice cases but DAMN they are expensive.

 

[bleucharm28]

These are nice case no doubt and very expensive. But if you think this is the only case you'll ever want or need. Great! But things change. When I first bought my Silverstone TJ07 case; i thought that was it. I thought that this case that will last through a life uses. I got rid of my TJ07 couple months ago.

 

[OVerLoRDI]

So the wiring was making me nerd-rage. I got all my parts my supplies earlier this week and spent sometime this weekend cleaning things up.

I'm still pretty new at making my own wires and sleeving, but you gotta start somewhere!

Proper length Sata wire:

With caps:

End result:

Three fan plugs per radiator? I think not!

Fan power system wired up:

I was able to cut 8 fan plugs down to 3, and then with that little fan power adapter run the fans off of 1 molex plug. Also all the fan wires are sleeved black, meaning I don't have stupid yellow and red wires everywhere. The plug for the fan adapter is temporary, just plugged into test. Going to finish the custom molex modular cable tomorrow or so and then get around redoing all the tubing. Progress is slow when you have an 8-5!

 

[Zargon]

nice work

 

[OVerLoRDI]

Tub routing complete. New fittings make life so much easier.

BEFORE:

AFTER:

Oh yes 😀

Backside so far:

 

[OVerLoRDI]

Done (for now)

Gotta get some bigger sleeving for those front usb wires. Also eventually custom length PCI-E, Mobo, and CPU wires will be made. For now though, I'm satisfied.