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James Bond

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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
If you play any real games, your money will be gone within an hour. Stick to nickle slots, you'll have more fun there.

200 can be gone in 10 minutes at nickel slots

Yep, worst advice ever.

Stick to 5 or 10 dollar Blackjack tables. Play some practice blackjack with some friends ahead of time, or play on your phone.

They make and sell little plastic cards with a matrix of when you should "HIT" and when you should "STAY". Many casinos allow you to have these with you AT the table. I highly recommend you look into one.

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Kirby

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$5 or $10 craps table is where it's at. Craps has some of the best odds for winning, but you gotta know the rules. Pick out how money you want to spend, and don't go over.
 

spidey07

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video poker, black jack, craps

Those are the only games where you can have an advantage. If you can find a 5 dollar blackjack table you can probably last 4-5 hours on 200 and even make some money.
 

PepePeru

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you can play for a while on video poker w/ 200.00 at 1.25 a hand.

pai gow poker is another way to kill time / mitigate losses / get drinks / maybe win a little bit.

i wish the casinos around here still had Pai Gow...don't waste your time on mini-pai gow though.

 

cdan

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
$200 !?!? are you kidding? even if you play $20 BJ, it'd be gone really fast.

He's right. $20 BJs suck you dry in a hurry.
 

QueBert

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Hold 'Em, you can sit out any hands where you're not big or small blind. Be patient until you get hands worth playing. That still won't guarantee you'll win, but your money will go slower if you do lose. And if you play smart you have a great chance of winning. $200 could last a long time at a 1/2-3/6 table even if you lose it all. If you suck at poker I don't know what to tell you, if you understand the fundamentals $200 can become $500+. And if the card gods are good to you, you can clean house. Last time I went to a casino. I bought in the minimum $60 at a $1/2 NL table and walked away about 45 minutes later with $300 in my pocket. Of course, the time before that I walked away 5 minutes after sitting down with nothing. Lost my stack in 1 hand.


 

zeruty

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I'm not too familiar what Atlantic City has to offer, seeing as how I'm in Washington State, and Las Vegas isn't far away (no reason to go to wanna-be las vegas)

But if I were in Vegas, I'd much rather spend the money on maybe a show, some specialty destination (when I went to Las Vegas, it was The Star Trek Experience)
Some damn good dinner...

Or a drive out of town to the chicken ranch
 

Kyteland

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Lots of misinformation in this thread.

First off, the people telling you to play video poker, blackjack or other advantage play games neglected to tell you that having an advantage at those games usually requires not only a lot of practice and skill but a bigger bankroll than $200. For example, say you find a video poker game with a payback >100% (You've memorized all of the paytables so you know which ones are good and which are crap, right?) the bet on that game is probably going to be $5 a hand. You're very likely to go broke with only $200 to back you, even with such a good payback percentage. Also keep in mind that the payback percentage is for optimal play. You've memorized all of the rules to play optimally on each of the different video poker games, right? Otherwise you are probably costing yourself >4% of the return. Similarly, other games where you *can* have an advantage generally require detailed knowledge of the game so you *do* have an advantage.

Originally posted by: Firebot
If you do play slots, play a single line slot machine (the game lasts longer, and when you hit you hit for bigger amounts vs what you put in then 5 line slots), and for god's sake, do NOT play a progressive slot machine unless you want to lose every 3rd credit to a chance at winning the lottery...

Not true. Single line slots generally have the same payback percentage as multiline slots although they have a higher volitility than single line slots. In essence, you have a higher chance of winning bigger on a single line game, but the tradeoff is that you don't win any smaller, more frequent pays like you do on a multiline slot. The consequence of this is that your money generally lasts longer on a multiline game but you are more likely to double your money on a single line game. The median number of games played on a single line game would be much smaller than the multiline game for the same wager.

As for the 3rd coin bet, you're a fool for not making it. You're a fool for playing at all depending on your outlook, but I digress. I assume from your comment that you're referring to three reel mechanical games where the first two coins get you the paytable and the third coin gets you the bonus and the progressive. The progressive is actually a very small amount of that third coin. Nearly all of it contributes to the bonus round. On most of those games betting the third count has a a return >4% greater than not betting it even when discounting any return from the progressive.

Originally posted by: Titan
Roulette is a good game because no players will yell at you for being a n00b. Every play is independent of the next, unlike blackjack.

Some blackjack players will definitely yell at you if you don't play "properly", but in reality your play is mathematically independent of theirs. They only notice when your "bad" play affects them negatively, never when it helps them. In the long run it is all the same. One player cannot affect the return of another player in blackjack.



I ran some numbers, and it looks like a bet of about $0.40 a spin should have a high probability of making the $200 last 4 hours on a slot machine.

<-- Mathematician who makes slot machines for a living.
 
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Take $10, spend it on slots and take your time. You will loose your money. Might as well spread out the pain. Then take the $60 and get a good dinner. And take the remaining and do whatever. Prostitute?
 

PepePeru

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youre not going to find many 9/6 video poker machines. meaning it pays 9 credits on the full house / 6 on the flush. if you find it, play it and play the fuck out of it.

8/5 is the basically the standard pay table.

if all they have is 7/5 don't bother.

I play jacks or better almost exclusively. Its not that complicated. Sometimes I try the bonus poker games but those get more complicated in what you hold. 4 of a kind's with low card kickers, 4 aces, etc
200.00 bucks on a .25 machine straight up jacks or better machine (1.25 max bet) should keep you going for well over an hour. Who knows, you might get lucky and hit that Royal that pays 1000.00, but out of all the countless hours i've sat in local casinos and in vegas getting hammered and playing jacks or better, i've hit a royal twice. once on a quarter machine, once on a nickle machine (250.00).

i like to think i have an advantage playing jacks or better video poker.
I just like being more in control of my decisions & outcomes than mindlessly hitting a button (slots).




 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: G Wizard
youre not going to find many 9/6 video poker machines. meaning it pays 9 credits on the full house / 6 on the flush. if you find it, play it and play the fuck out of it.

8/5 is the basically the standard pay table.

if all they have is 7/5 don't bother.

I play jacks or better almost exclusively. Its not that complicated. Sometimes I try the bonus poker games but those get more complicated in what you hold. 4 of a kind's with low card kickers, 4 aces, etc
200.00 bucks on a .25 machine straight up jacks or better machine (1.25 max bet) should keep you going for well over an hour. Who knows, you might get lucky and hit that Royal that pays 1000.00, but out of all the countless hours i've sat in local casinos and in vegas getting hammered and playing jacks or better, i've hit a royal twice. once on a quarter machine, once on a nickle machine (250.00).

i like to think i have an advantage playing jacks or better video poker.
I just like being more in control of my decisions & outcomes than mindlessly hitting a button (slots).

If you play perfect strategy on video poker you actually do have an advantage and the odds are in your favor. But it is difficult to find a 9/6 machine.




 

Mo0o

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$200 dollars and 1 weekend is not going to beat variance. Forget about making money, just play what seems fun to you. Avoid games/tables with really high minimum bets and avoid games where you just place a bet and watch the action happen w/o any input since that can be kind of boring (roulette)
 

PepePeru

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: G Wizard
youre not going to find many 9/6 video poker machines. meaning it pays 9 credits on the full house / 6 on the flush. if you find it, play it and play the fuck out of it.

8/5 is the basically the standard pay table.

if all they have is 7/5 don't bother.

I play jacks or better almost exclusively. Its not that complicated. Sometimes I try the bonus poker games but those get more complicated in what you hold. 4 of a kind's with low card kickers, 4 aces, etc
200.00 bucks on a .25 machine straight up jacks or better machine (1.25 max bet) should keep you going for well over an hour. Who knows, you might get lucky and hit that Royal that pays 1000.00, but out of all the countless hours i've sat in local casinos and in vegas getting hammered and playing jacks or better, i've hit a royal twice. once on a quarter machine, once on a nickle machine (250.00).

i like to think i have an advantage playing jacks or better video poker.
I just like being more in control of my decisions & outcomes than mindlessly hitting a button (slots).

If you play perfect strategy on video poker you actually do have an advantage and the odds are in your favor. But it is difficult to find a 9/6 machine.

yeah i think i've only seen a handful of 9/6 machines...either at the Palms or Hilton...and that was 6-7 years ago. I'm sure they are long gone by now.

I deviate from perfect play...ie not drawing to an inside straight. I HATE INSIDE STRAIGHTS, i think i can count on one hand the times i've hit an inside straight draw...

but again, i'll hold 4 for a flush...anways... fuck inside straights.

 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: RKS
Always bet on Black

$5 craps

Bet on the Do Not Pass.
If 4/10 come up; place $10 Odds
If 6/8 come up; place a Do Not Come bet

On next roll - only if puck number is 6/8
If 6/8 comes up; have the dealer do a No Action on your Do Not Come bet
If 5/9 comes up; remove your Place bet - Leave your Do Not Come bet on the 5/9
If 4/10 comes up; place $10 Odds; remove your Place bet.


Above works for a small bankroll - you may get funny looks betting against the table - Your odds are better.
Do not give into temptation by getting on the Field or prop bets in the center of the table.

 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Go to a roulette table put it all on one number. If you win put it all on another number. Put it all on another number after that and retire after that if you win.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
$200 !?!? are you kidding? even if you play $20 BJ, it'd be gone really fast.

depends on how long he can hold out. ;)
 

DayLaPaul

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Best thing you can do the first time you go to a casino is lose. If you win, they've got you hooked.
 

Red Squirrel

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I recently went to Casino Nova Scotia in Halifax and it was my first time at a casino. I only stayed for about 5 minutes because that's the time it took me to blow 20 bucks which was my budget. :p We were pretty much just passing by anyway and decided to go check it out real quick.
 

mykol1010

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As an avid gambler myself I'd recommend Blackjack and/or Paigow poker. Both these games are "skill" based so to speak meaning the player can affect his odds after the bet is placed (unlike games of luck like roulette or craps) and therefore more enjoyable imo since there is a bit of strategy involved.

A 5 dollar min blackjack or paigow table would probably be ideal in order to maximize your duration. Stay away from progressive betting and just bet the table min. Stay away from bonus bets on blackjack tables such as match pairs and the bonus bet in paigow. I'd also suggest that you find a table that is full of players so the hands are dealt slower therefore reducing your beta.

Get familiar with the basic strategy at
http://wizardofodds.com/

If you don't know what to do you can always ask the dealer "What does the book say?"