Gods will

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Yup. I agree completely. You dont' have the greatest machine powered by the greatest computer of all time so you can wait around for some mythological being to use cosmic forces to help you lose 15 pounds. People need to learn that we have the ability to act in the interests of goodness, and to make our own miracles.

After reading Night by Elie Wiesel we had an assignment to debate how a supposedly good God could allow such an atrocity, and if he was all powerful shouldn't he act to stop it. My argument was that God should not act and that he didn't allow it; we did. If we are so complacent as to allow these things then we DESERVE what we get. The Jews rolled over and took it in the pooper, same as they had for 2000 years. You don't want to get marched to the showers? Then use your brain and body to fight it. Non-Jews are no better, we watched it happening for a long time.

Hum, how interesting that your God thinks just like you. "It's the victim's fault for being a victim. I am going to stand up for myself." Hehe, God as a two year old.

Well it certainly isn't God's fault. He provided the framework and free will. What we do with it is our own problem. If God were to act directly it would negate the need for faith (since it would become proven). If there is no faith then religion itself unravels. Therefore God can not and should not act directly in affairs - this capacity he gave to humans.

It is important to understand that I do not adhere to a judeo-christian interpretation of God (obviously).

Hehe, neither do I. The notion of free will to me is an illusion. Humanity is asleep living in a programmed delusion. A machine has no free will. Free will is not possible for people who have an ego because the ego is a program. Life is real only when a person IS. 'To be' one has to leave time. One leaves time by entering into the eternal now. No ego can enter the now. The now is entered only by the death of the self that we think is us, our delusion. To enter the now a Christian has to die on the cross. The now is the will of God and he who is not is at cause. He who is not makes the world happen. It's what joy and love and heaven are all about.