a 4.5 gpa for a valedictorian is NOTHING. my valedictorian had a 6.0 (all As plus dualenrollment AA degree).
That's not racist. He has a point, it could be affirmative action going on.
And saying what her parents were, even though they fit the black stereotype to the teeth, isn't really racist unless it's a lie.
To clear another thing up, our school limits our students to 3 AP's (out of a possible 6 courses per year) per year starting in junior year (a select few get to take 4, this girl didn't). So AP's do not inflate our gpa's as much as many other schools do (I know many schools let you take 5 or 6 AP's).
ALSO SHES 100% WHITE. NOWHERE CLOSE TO A MINORITY.
ALSO SHES 100% WHITE. NOWHERE CLOSE TO A MINORITY.
timosyy
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You guys have some pretty freaking lax grading scales
Fairfax County (Northern VA):
A- 4.0
B- 3.0
C- 2.0
D- 1.0
Honors give 0.0, AP classes add 0.5.
And yes, 3.5 weighted is craptastic. No idea about the OP, and if she's not some rare minority, even more confused.
To everyone saying its the extracurriculars, class president + president of a few clubs + captain of girls track is hardly noteworthy enough to balance out the GPA.
Unless one of those clubs is unique & nationally known, or cured cancer or something.
Fairfax County (Northern VA):
A- 4.0
B- 3.0
C- 2.0
D- 1.0
Honors give 0.0, AP classes add 0.5.
And yes, 3.5 weighted is craptastic. No idea about the OP, and if she's not some rare minority, even more confused.
To everyone saying its the extracurriculars, class president + president of a few clubs + captain of girls track is hardly noteworthy enough to balance out the GPA.
Unless one of those clubs is unique & nationally known, or cured cancer or something.
heh....if they wanna pay 40k epr year in tuition good for them =) im loving my cheap in-state tuition.
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how so?
Affirmative Action -esque policies are inherently racist as they place merit on person's race. So insuating that she might be of non-white race is a logical question.
It's a double edged sword much like anything else in life - affirmative action policies work towards a greater social goal, but they are not "fair" by any means.
Wow, GPA is not everything. Colleges look at a lot more than just your GPA. Anyone can have a 4.0, you just need to take enough gym and art classes. Any decent college would notice if you took AP english over regular, AP Euro rather than western civ, etc. Most would rather take a student who got a B in AP chem rather than a student who got an A in regular chem. I think this whole idea of giving more gpa points to AP students is rather pointless, as it does nothing other than confuse the h3ll out of people when you tell them your gpa.
Extracurricular activities are very important as well. If you aren't on the leadership council of some organization, you should try to be. Colleges like fancy titles. (I was state parliamentarian of the NDJCL)
Extracurricular activities are very important as well. If you aren't on the leadership council of some organization, you should try to be. Colleges like fancy titles. (I was state parliamentarian of the NDJCL)
Giving chances to people based on the color of their skin is discrimination. It is amazing how this country has come full circle and people like you encourage it. It was discrimination when white people were favored and it is discrimination when minorities are favored. I sure hope I live to see the day when a white person has the same chances as a minority. I'm not counting on it.
It is fairly amusing to see a bunch of you people judge this person with such minimal information. There are many many factors that go into college admissions; academics and test scores (which were also left out of the information) are just part of it. Also, GPA inflation does NOTHING. Colleges always convert it to a 4.0 scale for obvious reasons stated previously. The only advantage to an outrageous GPA will be against other classmates to have a higher class rank.
timosyy
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Re: Flash1969- Its not that we're "encouraging" it, its just what happens. I'm not a racist by any means, but I can still notice that hispanics get into UVA with a LOT lower GPAs and a LOT less APs than their asian/white counterparts. Good for them.
/shrug
Not "anyone" can have a 4.0. Not with the caliber of courses required for them to be competitive. And I can't really explain away the (piss-poor, for Harvard) GPA with the extracurriculars listed, either. None of them strike me as out of the ordinary, unless she was also particularly talented in something you forgot to mention. One of my close friends got into Harvard, but she also had near-perfect grades in the best high school in the state and was offered admission into Juiliard for her cello skills as well.
In short, I'm stumped. But I'm gonna assume connections.
/shrug
Not "anyone" can have a 4.0. Not with the caliber of courses required for them to be competitive. And I can't really explain away the (piss-poor, for Harvard) GPA with the extracurriculars listed, either. None of them strike me as out of the ordinary, unless she was also particularly talented in something you forgot to mention. One of my close friends got into Harvard, but she also had near-perfect grades in the best high school in the state and was offered admission into Juiliard for her cello skills as well.
In short, I'm stumped. But I'm gonna assume connections.
Can family alums, good ECs, and a 1500+ SAT really outweigh the GPA?
Lots of people apply to Harvard with better stats and some end up denied.
from my high school, the students that went into ivy league schools all had great extracurriculars and good but not straight A grades
the students that had straight As all went to cal tech, UC Berkely or northwestern
so in my opinon the interview and extracurriculars mean quite a bit
the students that had straight As all went to cal tech, UC Berkely or northwestern
so in my opinon the interview and extracurriculars mean quite a bit
So.....so .... a like the valedictorian of like.... aaa.. my school had a 14.5 GPA..... she like had her AB from Princeton before she graduated..... yeah....like that.
That waited stuff is bullsh!t, Give your GPA in the 4.0 scale!!!! I don't care if you took Algebra for dumbasses your junior year or AP calc. Give it in a 4.0 scale, because believe it or not high schoolers when you get to the big house the harder classes..... are just harder, not a way to get an extra point. If any thing they are a guaranteed way to lose points!!!!
kd
I'm pretty sure her background factored into as well. Having to keep up even mediocre grades with your dad in jail and your mom a hooker is damn hard.
It's funny how all these whites and "overprivileged" minorities wish they were "underprivileged" minorities. Minorities face many more (subtle) problems every day than the average white person. And that is what Affirmative Action is correcting for.
Two words: oh lord.
While I'll agree that the system we have isn't perfect, it's better than what it used to be. I'd honestly rather have a system that slightly weights admission based on SES as opposed to race...but when you consider the drastically lower numbers of black and hispanic kids going into college, I don't have a problem with tipping things a bit in their favor.
as was mentioned many times before, Adcom does not look at stats only, they want well-rounded students with a variety of interests. Although her GPA is not that great, sj does excel in her extracurriculars. Adcom also likes demonstrated leadership, which she has. That gave her a lot of bonus points with the board.
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