God I hate the fvcking fox news channel!

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joohang

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Originally posted by: Ornery
Too biased?If that's bias, then I prefer it! Doesn't change the facts one bit.

Just learned it for the psych final.

Social psychologists call that the "peripheral route" in the elaboration likelihood model.

"The peripheral route ... refers to attempts at persuasion in which the change is associated with positive stimuli - a professional athlete, a millionaire, or an attractive model - that actually may have nothing to do with the substance of the argument. Selling products by associating them with attractive people or implying that buying the product will result in emotional, social, or financial benefits are examples of the use of peripheral attitude change techniques."

Note: My post assumes that Fox reporting is sh*ttier than CNN. I don't know because I didn't bother ordering Fox News on my dish. :) Just felt like rubbing this one in.
 

Ornery

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When Iraqi citizens were toppling Hussein's statue, Fox anchors mirrored my feelings. CNN's were dour and the BBC was reporting on an earthquake in China. Suit yourself...
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: Electrode
Originally posted by: rachaelsdad
The Mandate is for war against all countries that sponsor terrorism. Syria promotes and sponsors and harbors these groups.

Show me some proof.
By the way, Bush saying "Syria supports terror" is not proof, and Fox News saying "Syria aids terrorists" is not proof.

Whoa, are you kidding? Syria has been sponsoring terrorism for decades. Aside from Afghanistan, i can't think of another country that is a bigger supporter of terrorism.
 

LilBlinbBlahIce

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: Electrode
Originally posted by: rachaelsdad
The Mandate is for war against all countries that sponsor terrorism. Syria promotes and sponsors and harbors these groups.

Show me some proof.
By the way, Bush saying "Syria supports terror" is not proof, and Fox News saying "Syria aids terrorists" is not proof.

Whoa, are you kidding? Syria has been sponsoring terrorism for decades. Aside from Afghanistan, i can't think of another country that is a bigger supporter of terrorism.

Yeah, but have they directed their terrorism towards us? Has any Syrian group been responsible for an attack on the US?
 

joohang

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Ornery
When Iraqi citizens were toppling Hussein's statue, Fox anchors mirrored my feelings. CNN's were dour and the BBC was reporting on an earthquake in China. Suit yourself...

I'm not an American, but I gotta agree with you on that one.
 

etech

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LilBlinbBlahIce

Yeah, but have they directed their terrorism towards us? Has any Syrian group been responsible for an attack on the US?

So are you saying that terrorist groups are fine just as long as Americans aren't hurt directly by their actions?
 

joohang

Lifer
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Originally posted by: etech
LilBlinbBlahIce

Yeah, but have they directed their terrorism towards us? Has any Syrian group been responsible for an attack on the US?

So are you saying that terrorist groups are fine just as long as Americans aren't hurt directly by their actions?

I think he's saying, "Why Syria?"
 

etech

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And my question is, why if terrorists groups are based there no matter who their target is does he have no concern at all for their victims? Does a terrorist group in Syria cause instability in the ME? If their target is Israel does that not undermine a peaceful settlement of that problem? By prolonging the I/P conflict does that not cause Americans to be in danger?

Try to see the big picture. Don't limit yourselves to just the point that you can use to bash the US.
 

ConclamoLudus

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I watch Fox news, and I like Fox news, but if that's anybody's ONLY news source, than they need to look around more. There aren't unbiased media outlets anywhere. You just have to know what the bias is. In that regard I like Fox news because despite their ridiculous slogan, when you turn that channel on, you KNOW what the bias is.

As for the ME, I am an optimist and I believe that arab people can benefit from democracy. If it means we get oil and some innocent people die in the short term, the amount of lives we save in the long term will be worth it. At least to me. I don't believe the US is evil just because we benefit monetarily from ventures like Iraq. I would never go to Iraq and tell the poeple there that they were better off. I would also never tell a dead soldier's mother that their son or daughter died for oil, because I'm sure that the soldier didn't believe that.
 

mastertech01

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Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: Electrode
Originally posted by: rachaelsdad
The Mandate is for war against all countries that sponsor terrorism. Syria promotes and sponsors and harbors these groups.

Show me some proof.
By the way, Bush saying "Syria supports terror" is not proof, and Fox News saying "Syria aids terrorists" is not proof.

Whoa, are you kidding? Syria has been sponsoring terrorism for decades. Aside from Afghanistan, i can't think of another country that is a bigger supporter of terrorism.

Yeah, but have they directed their terrorism towards us? Has any Syrian group been responsible for an attack on the US?

Over 200 marines killed in Lebannon just to think of one right off the top. And you do know Lebannon is a puppet regime of Syria.

However it appears Syria is showing some cooperation now, and that looks hopefull.

 

LilBlinbBlahIce

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Originally posted by: etech
And my question is, why if terrorists groups are based there no matter who their target is does he have no concern at all for their victims? Does a terrorist group in Syria cause instability in the ME? If their target is Israel does that not undermine a peaceful settlement of that problem? By prolonging the I/P conflict does that not cause Americans to be in danger?

Try to see the big picture. Don't limit yourselves to just the point that you can use to bash the US.

No, America's one sided policies cause instability in the ME. If America invested the resources it had in invading Iraq to settle the Isreali Palestinian conflict, it would have gone a lot further in appeasing the anger of Arabs, and that in turn would lower terrorism. If you are so concerned about terrorism and how it affacts non American targets, why don't you support American intervention in Africa? Of yeah, I think someone answered this before: "Somalia was too hard, so screw that part of the world".
 

LilBlinbBlahIce

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Originally posted by: mastertech01
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: Electrode
Originally posted by: rachaelsdad
The Mandate is for war against all countries that sponsor terrorism. Syria promotes and sponsors and harbors these groups.

Show me some proof.
By the way, Bush saying "Syria supports terror" is not proof, and Fox News saying "Syria aids terrorists" is not proof.

Whoa, are you kidding? Syria has been sponsoring terrorism for decades. Aside from Afghanistan, i can't think of another country that is a bigger supporter of terrorism.

Yeah, but have they directed their terrorism towards us? Has any Syrian group been responsible for an attack on the US?

Over 200 marines killed in Lebannon just to think of one right off the top. And you do know Lebannon is a puppet regime of Syria.

However it appears Syria is showing some cooperation now, and that looks hopefull.

Yeah, but was there any proof of direct Syrian involvement?

 

mastertech01

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Nov 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: mastertech01
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: Electrode
Originally posted by: rachaelsdad
The Mandate is for war against all countries that sponsor terrorism. Syria promotes and sponsors and harbors these groups.

Show me some proof.
By the way, Bush saying "Syria supports terror" is not proof, and Fox News saying "Syria aids terrorists" is not proof.

Whoa, are you kidding? Syria has been sponsoring terrorism for decades. Aside from Afghanistan, i can't think of another country that is a bigger supporter of terrorism.

Yeah, but have they directed their terrorism towards us? Has any Syrian group been responsible for an attack on the US?

Over 200 marines killed in Lebannon just to think of one right off the top. And you do know Lebannon is a puppet regime of Syria.

However it appears Syria is showing some cooperation now, and that looks hopefull.

Yeah, but was there any proof of direct Syrian involvement?

I dont think the questions are about Syria's direct involvement in the action, but thier harboring and financial support of the ones who were involved.

 

CPA

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
For those of you who do not understand how deeply FOX, and its owner-empire controller Rupert Murdoch are involed Read about it

He has made his empire by entangling his influence in every country where his media network operates by cattering to the Political Leadership, pandering in fact.
Whatever the Chinese Government wanted - he delivered for political favors.
England - he's the King of Sensation & Tabloids, drivel for the uneducated masses.
Australia - Jump ? How high & what color.
An indication of the depth of his colusion in the U.S. is the involvement of the Weekly Standard which has creepy William Kristol advising on U.S. Foriegn Policy.
The Republican Party and Bush Administration even has written and passed FCC laws for the benifit of Murdoch alone - and nobody else.
The pay-back for this favoritism is the Conservitive press and media coverage that is "U.S.A. All The Way" promote the Patriotic message.

The mindless will follow without questioning, as the fervor and 'Posse Mentality' makes them fall in line.

Replace Fox with CNN and Republican with Democrat. And difference?
 

Alistar7

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Originally posted by: Electrode
Originally posted by: CPA
yes, his parents, the ones he call the "fvcks".

Read my post again. I was calling the Fox News channel "fvcks", not my parents.

Move out, pay your own way and you won't have to listen to your parents.....
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: Electrode
Originally posted by: CPA
yes, his parents, the ones he call the "fvcks".

Read my post again. I was calling the Fox News channel "fvcks", not my parents.

I actually read it twice. I apologize for confusing the two, though, it was difficult discerning who you were referencing as the "fvcks".

 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
Originally posted by: Electrode
Originally posted by: CPA
yes, his parents, the ones he call the "fvcks".

Read my post again. I was calling the Fox News channel "fvcks", not my parents.

Move out, pay your own way and you won't have to listen to your parents.....
The topic's poster may have learned a valuable lesson here . . . post little personal detail since the resident juvenile 'non sequitur' mob gathers to throw stones at the slightest provocation. :p

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Alistar7

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Why, because I think his parents deserve a little respect for allowing him to live there?

The only reason he is "subjected" to this is his decision to live there, so I am supposed to feel sorry for him? Worse yet, it warrants taking up good AT bandwidth so he can whine about what his parents like to watch on TV? My suggestion was right on target.

Of course reading the thread again puts the word juvenile in my mind as well:

"So I'm eating some breakfast this morning, while my parents are sitting in the living room hunched over and drooling while watching the Fox News channel, like usual. All damn morning they've been going on and on and on about everything that's wrong with Syria and why they should be next for "regime change".

GOD DAMNIT! AREN'T 2 FVCKING WARS ENOUGH FOR YOU BLOODTHIRSTY BASTARDS? We're not even done with the war we started with Iraq and these fvcks are already flapping their gums about who we should attack next! I'll bet within a month they'll have a good third of the American public convinced that Syria was responsible for 9/11, just like they did with Iraq.

And if that's not bad enough, they continue to bash the French every opprotunity they get. Every other thing they say is "The French have ties to...", "The French say that...", "A Frenchman did...", and so on. How long are they going to keep this sh!t up?

Edit: And another thing, stop saying that you give "Real journalism, fair and balanced." Al Jazeera is more "fair and balanced" than you! "

and so full of truth and insightfull observation....
 

Brian48

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Originally posted by: Electrode
So I'm eating some breakfast this morning, while my parents are sitting in the living room hunched over and drooling while watching the Fox News channel, like usual. All damn morning they've been going on and on and on about everything that's wrong with Syria and why they should be next for "regime change".

GOD DAMNIT! AREN'T 2 FVCKING WARS ENOUGH FOR YOU BLOODTHIRSTY BASTARDS? We're not even done with the war we started with Iraq and these fvcks are already flapping their gums about who we should attack next! I'll bet within a month they'll have a good third of the American public convinced that Syria was responsible for 9/11, just like they did with Iraq.

And if that's not bad enough, they continue to bash the French every opprotunity they get. Every other thing they say is "The French have ties to...", "The French say that...", "A Frenchman did...", and so on. How long are they going to keep this sh!t up?

:|

Edit: And another thing, stop saying that you give "Real journalism, fair and balanced." Al Jazeera is more "fair and balanced" than you! :|


Grow up. Move out of your parents home and take your lame ass to France where you below. You're poluting the American gene pool.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
Why, because I think his parents deserve a little respect for allowing him to live there?

The only reason he is "subjected" to this is his decision to live there, so I am supposed to feel sorry for him? Worse yet, it warrants taking up good AT bandwidth so he can whine about what his parents like to watch on TV? My suggestion was right on target.

Of course reading the thread again puts the word juvenile in my mind as well:

"So I'm eating some breakfast this morning, while my parents are sitting in the living room hunched over and drooling while watching the Fox News channel, like usual. All damn morning they've been going on and on and on about everything that's wrong with Syria and why they should be next for "regime change".

GOD DAMNIT! AREN'T 2 FVCKING WARS ENOUGH FOR YOU BLOODTHIRSTY BASTARDS? We're not even done with the war we started with Iraq and these fvcks are already flapping their gums about who we should attack next! I'll bet within a month they'll have a good third of the American public convinced that Syria was responsible for 9/11, just like they did with Iraq.

And if that's not bad enough, they continue to bash the French every opprotunity they get. Every other thing they say is "The French have ties to...", "The French say that...", "A Frenchman did...", and so on. How long are they going to keep this sh!t up?

Edit: And another thing, stop saying that you give "Real journalism, fair and balanced." Al Jazeera is more "fair and balanced" than you! "

and so full of truth and insightfull observation....
Read the nonsense posted in the post between yours and mine and tell me that his opinion - although completely opposite - is any different. :p

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CPA

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Alistar7
Originally posted by: Electrode
Originally posted by: CPA
yes, his parents, the ones he call the "fvcks".

Read my post again. I was calling the Fox News channel "fvcks", not my parents.

Move out, pay your own way and you won't have to listen to your parents.....
The topic's poster may have learned a valuable lesson here . . . post little personal detail since the resident juvenile 'non sequitur' mob gathers to throw stones at the slightest provocation. :p

rolleye.gif


I'm sorry, but I try not to bite the hand that feeds me.

And I already apologized for the misunderstanding, if his statements were clearer, I wouldn't have made mention of it.