God Evian is gross

[K1052]

Originally posted by: welst10
FDA article

Cliff notes:
1. Bottled water is regulated by FDA, while tap water is by EPA.
2. While standards for contaminants in tap water and bottled water are very similar. In some instances, bottled water has higher standards, such as lead level.
3. Standards for tap water apply to the water before they enter your house. The water that comes out of your pipe might have different purity level. While in case of bottled water, the purity standards apply to the water that enters your mouth.

NRDC report

 

[welst10]

double post

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: K1052
NRDC report

"Chapter 5 shows that despite recent FDA rules intended to reduce misleading marketing, some bottled water comes from sources that are vastly different from what the labels might lead consumers to believe. One brand of water discussed in this report was sold as "spring water" and its label showed a lake and mountains in the background -- with FDA's explicit blessing. But until recently the water actually came from a periodically contaminated well in an industrial facility's parking lot, near a waste dump (a state whistleblower informed the local media after years of internal struggles, finally putting an end to the use of this source).[30] Another brand of water sold with a label stating it is "pure glacier water" actually came from a public water supply, according to state records."

 

[Insane3D]

All the more reason I just filter my tap water.

 

[welst10]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10
FDA article

Cliff notes:
1. Bottled water is regulated by FDA, while tap water is by EPA.
2. While standards for contaminants in tap water and bottled water are very similar. In some instances, bottled water has higher standards, such as lead level.
3. Standards for tap water apply to the water before they enter your house. The water that comes out of your pipe might have different purity level. While in case of bottled water, the purity standards apply to the water that enters your mouth.

NRDC report

Did you even read that article you linked to? It pointed out the problems that NRDC believes bottle water companies and FDA have, but it never said tap water is as good as bottled water. In fact it advises consumers to "Fix tap water quality -- don't give up and just rely on bottled water.". Apparently tap water needs "fix". BTW, #2-3 in my previous post STAND CORRECT.

Bottom line: Bottled companies manufactuering practices and FDA regulation may not be perfect. However, bottled water does offer higher consistency and garanttee in water safety and taste than tap water. Read #2 and 3 in my post above.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10
FDA article

Cliff notes:
1. Bottled water is regulated by FDA, while tap water is by EPA.
2. While standards for contaminants in tap water and bottled water are very similar. In some instances, bottled water has higher standards, such as lead level.
3. Standards for tap water apply to the water before they enter your house. The water that comes out of your pipe might have different purity level. While in case of bottled water, the purity standards apply to the water that enters your mouth.

NRDC report

Did you even read that article you linked to? It pointed out the problems that NRDC believes bottle water companied and FDA have, but it never said tap water is as good as bottled water. In fact it advises consumers to "Fix tap water quality -- don't give up and just rely on bottled water.". Apparently tap water needs "fix". BTW, #2-3 in my previous post STAND CORRECT.

You managed to leave out the fact that taste is the only factor they advocate improvement on and igonre the rest of the report. They even point an easy way to do it at home without filters.

 

[welst10]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10
FDA article

Cliff notes:
1. Bottled water is regulated by FDA, while tap water is by EPA.
2. While standards for contaminants in tap water and bottled water are very similar. In some instances, bottled water has higher standards, such as lead level.
3. Standards for tap water apply to the water before they enter your house. The water that comes out of your pipe might have different purity level. While in case of bottled water, the purity standards apply to the water that enters your mouth.

NRDC report

Did you even read that article you linked to? It pointed out the problems that NRDC believes bottle water companied and FDA have, but it never said tap water is as good as bottled water. In fact it advises consumers to "Fix tap water quality -- don't give up and just rely on bottled water.". Apparently tap water needs "fix". BTW, #2-3 in my previous post STAND CORRECT.

You managed to leave out the fact that taste is the only factor they advocate improvement on and igonre the rest of the report. They even point an easy way to do it at home without filters.

Taste is not the alone factor. I said read #2-3 in my post above.
For example, tap water lead level action level is 15 while bottled water is 5 (see the FDA article)
Let me say this AGAIN, tap water regulations by EPA only apply to the water before it enters your house. The safety of tap water than you actually drink is NOT consistent nor garantteed.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10
FDA article

Cliff notes:
1. Bottled water is regulated by FDA, while tap water is by EPA.
2. While standards for contaminants in tap water and bottled water are very similar. In some instances, bottled water has higher standards, such as lead level.
3. Standards for tap water apply to the water before they enter your house. The water that comes out of your pipe might have different purity level. While in case of bottled water, the purity standards apply to the water that enters your mouth.

NRDC report

Did you even read that article you linked to? It pointed out the problems that NRDC believes bottle water companied and FDA have, but it never said tap water is as good as bottled water. In fact it advises consumers to "Fix tap water quality -- don't give up and just rely on bottled water.". Apparently tap water needs "fix". BTW, #2-3 in my previous post STAND CORRECT.

You managed to leave out the fact that taste is the only factor they advocate improvement on and igonre the rest of the report. They even point an easy way to do it at home without filters.

The safety of tap water than you actually drink is NOT consistent nor garantteed.

Neither is bottled water to a sufficient extent. If I can get a comperable product for a small fraction of the cost, then why buy it?

<---sells bottled water

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: welst10
The safety of tap water than you actually drink is NOT consistent nor garantteed.

That is all that can reasonably be regulated, once it hits your pipes it's up to you. If it tastes like ass replace your pipes.

Viper GTS

 

[welst10]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10
FDA article

Cliff notes:
1. Bottled water is regulated by FDA, while tap water is by EPA.
2. While standards for contaminants in tap water and bottled water are very similar. In some instances, bottled water has higher standards, such as lead level.
3. Standards for tap water apply to the water before they enter your house. The water that comes out of your pipe might have different purity level. While in case of bottled water, the purity standards apply to the water that enters your mouth.

NRDC report

Did you even read that article you linked to? It pointed out the problems that NRDC believes bottle water companied and FDA have, but it never said tap water is as good as bottled water. In fact it advises consumers to "Fix tap water quality -- don't give up and just rely on bottled water.". Apparently tap water needs "fix". BTW, #2-3 in my previous post STAND CORRECT.

You managed to leave out the fact that taste is the only factor they advocate improvement on and igonre the rest of the report. They even point an easy way to do it at home without filters.

The safety of tap water than you actually drink is NOT consistent nor garantteed.

Neither is bottled water to a sufficient extent. If I can get a comperable product for a small fraction of the cost, then why buy it?

<---sells bottled water

This discussion is bottled water vs. tap water as it comes out of your pipe (without additional purification). I agree that if you apply additional purification process to tap water, it can be as good as bottled water.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10
FDA article

Cliff notes:
1. Bottled water is regulated by FDA, while tap water is by EPA.
2. While standards for contaminants in tap water and bottled water are very similar. In some instances, bottled water has higher standards, such as lead level.
3. Standards for tap water apply to the water before they enter your house. The water that comes out of your pipe might have different purity level. While in case of bottled water, the purity standards apply to the water that enters your mouth.

NRDC report

Did you even read that article you linked to? It pointed out the problems that NRDC believes bottle water companied and FDA have, but it never said tap water is as good as bottled water. In fact it advises consumers to "Fix tap water quality -- don't give up and just rely on bottled water.". Apparently tap water needs "fix". BTW, #2-3 in my previous post STAND CORRECT.

You managed to leave out the fact that taste is the only factor they advocate improvement on and igonre the rest of the report. They even point an easy way to do it at home without filters.

The safety of tap water than you actually drink is NOT consistent nor garantteed.

Neither is bottled water to a sufficient extent. If I can get a comperable product for a small fraction of the cost, then why buy it?

<---sells bottled water

This discussion is bottled water vs. tap water as it comes out of your pipe (without additional purification). I agree that if you apply additional purification process to tap water, it can be as good as bottled water.

Does leaving it in the fridge overnight really count as "additional purification".

 

[TechnoKid]

I don't like the taste of the tap water 'round me, it comes from wells. I have a reverse osmosis filter system, either i drink from that or drink bottled water. I can tell the difference between bottled spring water and tap water.

 

[z0mb13]

IMO evian is the best tasting bottled water

 

[welst10]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10
FDA article

Cliff notes:
1. Bottled water is regulated by FDA, while tap water is by EPA.
2. While standards for contaminants in tap water and bottled water are very similar. In some instances, bottled water has higher standards, such as lead level.
3. Standards for tap water apply to the water before they enter your house. The water that comes out of your pipe might have different purity level. While in case of bottled water, the purity standards apply to the water that enters your mouth.

NRDC report

Did you even read that article you linked to? It pointed out the problems that NRDC believes bottle water companied and FDA have, but it never said tap water is as good as bottled water. In fact it advises consumers to "Fix tap water quality -- don't give up and just rely on bottled water.". Apparently tap water needs "fix". BTW, #2-3 in my previous post STAND CORRECT.

You managed to leave out the fact that taste is the only factor they advocate improvement on and igonre the rest of the report. They even point an easy way to do it at home without filters.

The safety of tap water than you actually drink is NOT consistent nor garantteed.

Neither is bottled water to a sufficient extent. If I can get a comperable product for a small fraction of the cost, then why buy it?

<---sells bottled water

This discussion is bottled water vs. tap water as it comes out of your pipe (without additional purification). I agree that if you apply additional purification process to tap water, it can be as good as bottled water.

Does leaving it in the fridge overnight really count as "additional purification".

Leaving it in the fridge can make tap water as pure as bottled water? Link me to an article published in a peer-review scientific journal that supports your claim (yes, consumer group writeups have too much BS).

 

[CraigRT]

Dasani is by far the worst water.
tastes like unfiltered lake water.. so gross.

I just drink Montclair.

 

[Thraxen]

Leaving it in the fridge can make tap water as pure as bottled water? Link me to an article published in a peer-review scientific journal that supports your claim (yes, consumer group writeups have too much BS).

You keep making the claim it's more pure, yet haven't several links already shown that it's not necessarily? From what I have read on the links provided some standards are higher while some are lower. Even the links you provided only stated that the standards were higher in some instances. Then other links state that the guidelines are stricter on tap water for other factors (i.e. bacteria).

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10
FDA article

Cliff notes:
1. Bottled water is regulated by FDA, while tap water is by EPA.
2. While standards for contaminants in tap water and bottled water are very similar. In some instances, bottled water has higher standards, such as lead level.
3. Standards for tap water apply to the water before they enter your house. The water that comes out of your pipe might have different purity level. While in case of bottled water, the purity standards apply to the water that enters your mouth.

NRDC report

Did you even read that article you linked to? It pointed out the problems that NRDC believes bottle water companied and FDA have, but it never said tap water is as good as bottled water. In fact it advises consumers to "Fix tap water quality -- don't give up and just rely on bottled water.". Apparently tap water needs "fix". BTW, #2-3 in my previous post STAND CORRECT.

You managed to leave out the fact that taste is the only factor they advocate improvement on and igonre the rest of the report. They even point an easy way to do it at home without filters.

The safety of tap water than you actually drink is NOT consistent nor garantteed.

Neither is bottled water to a sufficient extent. If I can get a comperable product for a small fraction of the cost, then why buy it?

<---sells bottled water

This discussion is bottled water vs. tap water as it comes out of your pipe (without additional purification). I agree that if you apply additional purification process to tap water, it can be as good as bottled water.

Does leaving it in the fridge overnight really count as "additional purification".

Leaving it in the fridge can make tap water as pure as bottled water? Link me to an article published in a peer-review scientific journal that supports your claim (yes, consumer group writeups have too much BS).

I am not writing a research paper on this for you. The I provided link is enough IMO. How about you go find something to support you claim?

 

[FrustratedUser]

I have only one word for loosers who pay big bucks for bottled water.

BRITA

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: CraigRT
Dasani is by far the worst water.
tastes like unfiltered lake water.. so gross.

I just drink Montclair.

Dasani is tap water - Coke admitted that. In fact, wasn't it Dasani that was recalled in Europe this spring for being unsafe to drink? I think it has never gotten back on the market there.

Basically the facts are:
[*]Bottled and tap are virtually identical in every aspect, we are arguing subtle differences.
[*]Bottled and tap have basically the same purity standards but tap is monitored much more closely than bottled.
[*]From 25%-50% of bottled water is just tap water depending on the estimate. Most I see say 40%.
[*]The tap water that is bottled is often mislabeled or at least marketed in a misleading way. Like claiming spring water in the example I gave ablve.
[*]No study ever produced has shown a health benefit of bottled over tap (assuming you have tap water that passes standards of course - and then you'll be notified to boil your tap water before consuming).
[*]Tap water has the possibility to leach minerals from your pipes, bottled water leaches chemicals from the plastic container. Both are undesireable effects, but both are safe.

Basically, drink bottled if you want to. I'm going to save money and drink my tap water (Britta filtered usually). Just don't go annoucing that bottled is safer when it isn't.

 

[welst10]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: welst10
FDA article

Cliff notes:
1. Bottled water is regulated by FDA, while tap water is by EPA.
2. While standards for contaminants in tap water and bottled water are very similar. In some instances, bottled water has higher standards, such as lead level.
3. Standards for tap water apply to the water before they enter your house. The water that comes out of your pipe might have different purity level. While in case of bottled water, the purity standards apply to the water that enters your mouth.

NRDC report

Did you even read that article you linked to? It pointed out the problems that NRDC believes bottle water companied and FDA have, but it never said tap water is as good as bottled water. In fact it advises consumers to "Fix tap water quality -- don't give up and just rely on bottled water.". Apparently tap water needs "fix". BTW, #2-3 in my previous post STAND CORRECT.

You managed to leave out the fact that taste is the only factor they advocate improvement on and igonre the rest of the report. They even point an easy way to do it at home without filters.

The safety of tap water than you actually drink is NOT consistent nor garantteed.

Neither is bottled water to a sufficient extent. If I can get a comperable product for a small fraction of the cost, then why buy it?

<---sells bottled water

This discussion is bottled water vs. tap water as it comes out of your pipe (without additional purification). I agree that if you apply additional purification process to tap water, it can be as good as bottled water.

Does leaving it in the fridge overnight really count as "additional purification".

Leaving it in the fridge can make tap water as pure as bottled water? Link me to an article published in a peer-review scientific journal that supports your claim (yes, consumer group writeups have too much BS).

I am not writing a research paper on this for you. The I provided link is enough IMO. How about you go find something to support you claim?

My claim (#2-3 above) that tap water regulations only apply to water before they enter your house is a fact, not a hidden science to be discovered. You can call EPA to verify that. Also the lead level (15 actional vs. 5 as stated in the FDA article) is not a hidden scientific discovery.

 

[welst10]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: CraigRT
Dasani is by far the worst water.
tastes like unfiltered lake water.. so gross.

I just drink Montclair.

Dasani is tap water - Coke admitted that. In fact, wasn't it Dasani that was recalled in Europe this spring for being unsafe to drink? I think it has never gotten back on the market there.

Basically the facts are:
[*]Bottled and tap are virtually identical in every aspect, we are arguing subtle differences.
[*]Bottled and tap have basically the same purity standards but tap is monitored much more closely than bottled.
[*]From 25%-50% of bottled water is just tap water depending on the estimate. Most I see say 40%.
[*]The tap water that is bottled is often mislabeled or at least marketed in a misleading way.
[*]No study ever produced has shown a health benefit of bottled over tap (assuming you have tap water that passes standards of course - and then you'll be notified to boil your tap water before consuming).

Basically, drink bottled if you want to. I'm going to save money and drink my tap water (Britta filtered usually). Just don't go annoucing that bottled is safer when it isn't.

I thought we are talking about tap water as it comes out your pipe. Britta filtered tap water does not count. Heck I've been drinking Britta filtered water for years. A year ago I became too lazy to buy replacement and do refill so I just drink bottled water now.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: welst10
I thought we are talking about tap water as it comes out your pipe. Britta filtered tap water does not count. Heck I've been drinking Britta filtered water for years. A year ago I became too lazy to buy replacement and do refill so I just drink bottled water now.

We were. All of what I say applies only to tap water. I personally use Britta, but that doesn't change any of the facts about tap water.

And while I'm at it, my local water company does their tests at random houses - testing their tap water after their pipes. That of course might just be local.

 

[K1052]

Can we please exit nested quote hell?

What is boils down to IMO it that you are paying FAR more for something which may be slightly better or far worse than what you get out of the tap.

The regulation and testing in the bottled water industry is still far less rigorous than what tap water is subjected to.

 

[welst10]

Originally posted by: K1052
Can we please exit nested quote hell?

What is boils down to IMO it that you are paying FAR more for something which may be slightly better or far worse than what you get out of the tap.

The regulation and testing in the bottled water industry is still far les rigorous than what tap water is subjected to.

$5-6/mo is far more for consistency and garrantteed quality and taste? I don't think so. I will stick to my current choice, Walmart Springs Water $1.98/2.5gallon (I usually get 2-3 dispensers/mo).

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: welst10
$5-6/mo is far more for consistency and garrantteed quality and taste? I don't think so. I will stick to my current choice, Walmart Springs Water $1.98/2.5gallon (I usually get 2-3 dispensers/mo).

If you have a family and they each buy one or two bottled water drinks out of restaurants, stores, etc, that quickly becomes $10 a month. If they each buy one a day that becomes $150 a month. If they drink it solely (like many people do) it could easilly reach $500+ a month. Compare that to the pennies a month I drink in tap water (make it $1 a month since I usually use a filter).

Back to the original topic: Evian water, $10 for 5 ounces. Water in a can. If that isn't overpriced, I don't know what is.