Goals for 2008

[spamsk8r]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: spamsk8r
I'm 5'10", 217 lbs., currently cutting fat. Just got back into exercising in October. I'm currently doing CrossFit as my main workout. I will most likely be adding a Starting Strength variation to my workout schedule this year. These are my goals:

400 lb. deadlift
300+ lb. squat (need to get my form dialed in)
175 lb. shoulder press
20 consecutive pull-ups
185 lb. body weight at 10% body fat

My main goal is to just get healthy and fit. I've never been overall fit in my entire life, so I want to build a good solid base of strength, cardio, and speed over the next 11 months, and get my body to a healthy weight. After I accomplish that, I will focus more on specific strength or sport-specific goals.

The 20reps on the pull ups will be really tough mate! Strict reps that is, not kipping reps like crossfitters.

Lots of solid goals here lads! Lets see who can get their goals 🙂

Koing

Nothing wrong with kipping pull-ups. More power is produced, which is the goal. Right now I can do about 3 reps kipping, so 20 reps kipping would be a big improvement. I don't think I could get 20 strict in a year, but that doesn't mean I won't try 🙂

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: spamsk8r

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: spamsk8r
I'm 5'10", 217 lbs., currently cutting fat. Just got back into exercising in October. I'm currently doing CrossFit as my main workout. I will most likely be adding a Starting Strength variation to my workout schedule this year. These are my goals:

400 lb. deadlift
300+ lb. squat (need to get my form dialed in)
175 lb. shoulder press
20 consecutive pull-ups
185 lb. body weight at 10% body fat

My main goal is to just get healthy and fit. I've never been overall fit in my entire life, so I want to build a good solid base of strength, cardio, and speed over the next 11 months, and get my body to a healthy weight. After I accomplish that, I will focus more on specific strength or sport-specific goals.

The 20reps on the pull ups will be really tough mate! Strict reps that is, not kipping reps like crossfitters.

Lots of solid goals here lads! Lets see who can get their goals 🙂

Koing

Nothing wrong with kipping pull-ups. More power is produced, which is the goal. Right now I can do about 3 reps kipping, so 20 reps kipping would be a big improvement. I don't think I could get 20 strict in a year, but that doesn't mean I won't try 🙂

Kipping pull ups are different to normal pull ups.

20 strict pull ups is a feat rarely completed by many people. They really half ass their pull ups already! Not straightening out at the bottom, not going all the way up. It's a joke.

It's better to set realistic goals that are achieveable imo. Too many people set unrealistic goals and fail. This other forum I go to, the guys will probably never achieve what they set out in that year.

Koing

 

[spamsk8r]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: spamsk8r

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: spamsk8r
I'm 5'10", 217 lbs., currently cutting fat. Just got back into exercising in October. I'm currently doing CrossFit as my main workout. I will most likely be adding a Starting Strength variation to my workout schedule this year. These are my goals:

400 lb. deadlift
300+ lb. squat (need to get my form dialed in)
175 lb. shoulder press
20 consecutive pull-ups
185 lb. body weight at 10% body fat

My main goal is to just get healthy and fit. I've never been overall fit in my entire life, so I want to build a good solid base of strength, cardio, and speed over the next 11 months, and get my body to a healthy weight. After I accomplish that, I will focus more on specific strength or sport-specific goals.

The 20reps on the pull ups will be really tough mate! Strict reps that is, not kipping reps like crossfitters.

Lots of solid goals here lads! Lets see who can get their goals 🙂

Koing

Nothing wrong with kipping pull-ups. More power is produced, which is the goal. Right now I can do about 3 reps kipping, so 20 reps kipping would be a big improvement. I don't think I could get 20 strict in a year, but that doesn't mean I won't try 🙂

Kipping pull ups are different to normal pull ups.

20 strict pull ups is a feat rarely completed by many people. They really half ass their pull ups already! Not straightening out at the bottom, not going all the way up. It's a joke.

It's better to set realistic goals that are achieveable imo. Too many people set unrealistic goals and fail. This other forum I go to, the guys will probably never achieve what they set out in that year.

Koing

I agree that they are quite different, and that strict ones are much harder. That's why I should have specified that my goal was 20 kipping pullups, as 20 dead-hang would be a bit much to tackle in a year (for me, at least). But upping my kipping pullups will allow me to also up my strict pullups as well, so it's good all around.

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: Koing
Kipping pull ups are different to normal pull ups.

20 strict pull ups is a feat rarely completed by many people. They really half ass their pull ups already! Not straightening out at the bottom, not going all the way up. It's a joke.

It's better to set realistic goals that are achieveable imo. Too many people set unrealistic goals and fail. This other forum I go to, the guys will probably never achieve what they set out in that year.

Koing

You mean everyone can't put 20% on all of their lifts every year? I assume you'r referring to this thread.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: spamsk8r
I agree that they are quite different, and that strict ones are much harder. That's why I should have specified that my goal was 20 kipping pullups, as 20 dead-hang would be a bit much to tackle in a year (for me, at least). But upping my kipping pullups will allow me to also up my strict pullups as well, so it's good all around.

Indeed.

Koing

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: crt1530

Originally posted by: Koing
Kipping pull ups are different to normal pull ups.

20 strict pull ups is a feat rarely completed by many people. They really half ass their pull ups already! Not straightening out at the bottom, not going all the way up. It's a joke.

It's better to set realistic goals that are achieveable imo. Too many people set unrealistic goals and fail. This other forum I go to, the guys will probably never achieve what they set out in that year.

Koing

You mean everyone can't put 20% on all of their lifts every year? I assume you'r referring to this thread.

I wasn't referring to that but most people are not realistic in their goal settings at all. Another forum people have put down insane goals that they WILL NOT meet in 18months let alone a year. They will probably fail after 2yrs also.

It depends what your lifting and for how many years.

E.g. if your doing 150/200/240 you will more then likely not edge 180/240/290 in that year. If you do then fair play but it a massive gain to 20% on your lifts per year 'each' year.

People have to set realistic goals for the long term gains. People over extend their goals.

We will see how they do in the coming 11months 🙂.

This guy thinks he can Snatch 100kg within a year. That will be an unlikely goal within 2yrs let alone one year imo. It takes an obscene amount of training to get near that for his strength levels.

Koing

 

[paulxcook]

revised goals:

squat 315 for 3 sets of 5 reps
bench 225 for 3 sets of 5 reps
deadlift 405 for 1 sets of 5 reps

I deadlifted 315 for 1 set of 3 followed quickly by another 2 reps. There was a long enough pause that it wasn't quite 5 reps, but I"m sure I'll get it next time.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: paulxcook
revised goals:

squat 315 for 3 sets of 5 reps
bench 225 for 3 sets of 5 reps
deadlift 405 for 1 sets of 5 reps

I deadlifted 315 for 1 set of 3 followed quickly by another 2 reps. There was a long enough pause that it wasn't quite 5 reps, but I"m sure I'll get it next time.

The DL % is insane! You will have to squat quite a lot more then that to get 405 for one rep let alone 5reps! I'd say a solid 380lbs for 5reps to get near that DL for 5reps.

Your 1RM would be at least 450lbs btw and that is rock solid!

Koing

 

[hellod9]

Right now I am focusing on exercising 3-5 times a week. Still figuring out WHAT exercises I want to focus on. Right now its just pushups/squats/dips/crunches. I'll probably do some running when the weather gets better.

An entire year of exercising would be a first for me.

That's what I would like to do.

I'm 6'4", 165 lbs. 25 years old.

 

[paulxcook]

Originally posted by: hellod9
Right now I am focusing on exercising 3-5 times a week. Still figuring out WHAT exercises I want to focus on. Right now its just pushups/squats/dips/crunches. I'll probably do some running when the weather gets better.

An entire year of exercising would be a first for me.

That's what I would like to do.

I'm 6'4", 165 lbs. 25 years old.

Holy cow!! You need to gain weight, big time. Good luck, starting eating a lot and lifting heavy.

Koing, yeah, my DL is pretty far ahead of my squat. Hopefully the gap will close some over time.

 

[hellod9]

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: hellod9
Right now I am focusing on exercising 3-5 times a week. Still figuring out WHAT exercises I want to focus on. Right now its just pushups/squats/dips/crunches. I'll probably do some running when the weather gets better.

An entire year of exercising would be a first for me.

That's what I would like to do.

I'm 6'4", 165 lbs. 25 years old.

Holy cow!! You need to gain weight, big time. Good luck, starting eating a lot and lifting heavy.

Koing, yeah, my DL is pretty far ahead of my squat. Hopefully the gap will close some over time.

Dude, I don't buy that that I need to be/look big. I'm well within the 'healthy' Body Mass Index range. I DO expect to gain some weight through muscle gain. Weight is simply not an issue that I focus on. My goal is to be healthy/fit.

 

[paulxcook]

BMI is a poor indicator of fitness, IMO. And you said yourself that, based on your goal of becoming healthier, you will gain weight. So, if you want to be healthy, you will exercise and gain muscle mass, and thus become heavier. I fail to see how we disagree here, and don't understand your attitude.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: hellod9

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: hellod9
Right now I am focusing on exercising 3-5 times a week. Still figuring out WHAT exercises I want to focus on. Right now its just pushups/squats/dips/crunches. I'll probably do some running when the weather gets better.

An entire year of exercising would be a first for me.

That's what I would like to do.

I'm 6'4", 165 lbs. 25 years old.

Holy cow!! You need to gain weight, big time. Good luck, starting eating a lot and lifting heavy.

Koing, yeah, my DL is pretty far ahead of my squat. Hopefully the gap will close some over time.

Dude, I don't buy that that I need to be/look big. I'm well within the 'healthy' Body Mass Index range. I DO expect to gain some weight through muscle gain. Weight is simply not an issue that I focus on. My goal is to be healthy/fit.

Lol... Paul said you need to gain weight and you said "Well, fine! I will then, @*#$er!" in a matter of words. Chill out and realize that you are skinny as hell. If you didn't care so much, then why cop an attitude with Paul? Just curious, man. So angry for such a low post count... lol.

 

[GenHoth]

lol, 6'4" and 165? You don't have to get big, but right now you're pretty darn skinny!

 

[hellod9]

Originally posted by: paulxcook
BMI is a poor indicator of fitness, IMO. And you said yourself that, based on your goal of becoming healthier, you will gain weight. So, if you want to be healthy, you will exercise and gain muscle mass, and thus become heavier. I fail to see how we disagree here, and don't understand your attitude.

My attitude is in parallel reasction to what came across from you as a rather drastic and emotional message, being...

"Holy cow!! You need to gain weight, big time."

I take offense to that statement, and completely disagree with it 100%.

I LIKE being skinny, and I feel pretty damn good about myself. I personally think it is bullsh!t that so many people think its not OK to be skinny -- a sentiment that you made perfectly clear that you agree with.

So, NO, I do NOT need to gain wieght, big time. I don't need to start stuffing myself with a lot of food either, as you also suggested.

What I have been doing, and what I will continue to do, is exercise regularly, and make continual improvements to my diet. That is my *goal* for this year. More than a goal, thougn, those are habits that I have decided to create for myself.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: hellod9

Originally posted by: paulxcook
BMI is a poor indicator of fitness, IMO. And you said yourself that, based on your goal of becoming healthier, you will gain weight. So, if you want to be healthy, you will exercise and gain muscle mass, and thus become heavier. I fail to see how we disagree here, and don't understand your attitude.

My attitude is in parallel reasction to what came across from you as a rather drastic and emotional message, being...

"Holy cow!! You need to gain weight, big time."

I take offense to that statement, and completely disagree with it 100%.

I LIKE being skinny, and I feel pretty damn good about myself. I personally think it is bullsh!t that so many people think its not OK to be skinny -- a sentiment that you made perfectly clear that you agree with.

So, NO, I do NOT need to gain wieght, big time. I don't need to start stuffing myself with a lot of food either, as you also suggested.

What I have been doing, and what I will continue to do, is exercise regularly, and make continual improvements to my diet. That is my *goal* for this year. More than a goal, thougn, those are habits that I have decided to create for myself.

You could gain 35 lbs of muscle and you'd still be pretty thin but at least you'd be muscular and not boney.

 

[paulxcook]

Originally posted by: hellod9

Originally posted by: paulxcook
BMI is a poor indicator of fitness, IMO. And you said yourself that, based on your goal of becoming healthier, you will gain weight. So, if you want to be healthy, you will exercise and gain muscle mass, and thus become heavier. I fail to see how we disagree here, and don't understand your attitude.

I'm needlessly pissy and take comments I read on the internet entirely too seriously. I intend to push forward with my vague and immeasurable goals of mysteriously skinny-yet-muscular fitness.

Good luck with that. :thumbsup:

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: hellod9
Right now I am focusing on exercising 3-5 times a week. Still figuring out WHAT exercises I want to focus on. Right now its just pushups/squats/dips/crunches. I'll probably do some running when the weather gets better.

An entire year of exercising would be a first for me.

That's what I would like to do.

I'm 6'4", 165 lbs. 25 years old.

Holy cow!! You need to gain weight, big time. Good luck, starting eating a lot and lifting heavy.

Koing, yeah, my DL is pretty far ahead of my squat. Hopefully the gap will close some over time.

What are your lifts currently?

My BMI is 27 😛

Koing

 

[paulxcook]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: hellod9
Right now I am focusing on exercising 3-5 times a week. Still figuring out WHAT exercises I want to focus on. Right now its just pushups/squats/dips/crunches. I'll probably do some running when the weather gets better.

An entire year of exercising would be a first for me.

That's what I would like to do.

I'm 6'4", 165 lbs. 25 years old.

Holy cow!! You need to gain weight, big time. Good luck, starting eating a lot and lifting heavy.

Koing, yeah, my DL is pretty far ahead of my squat. Hopefully the gap will close some over time.

What are your lifts currently?

My BMI is 27 😛

Koing

Squat is 250 x 5 x 3
Bench is 150 x 5 x 3
deadlift is 315 x 5 x 1

Squat and deadlift were tied consistently until I switched my deadlift grip.

 

[sash1]

Originally posted by: hellod9

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: hellod9
Right now I am focusing on exercising 3-5 times a week. Still figuring out WHAT exercises I want to focus on. Right now its just pushups/squats/dips/crunches. I'll probably do some running when the weather gets better.

An entire year of exercising would be a first for me.

That's what I would like to do.

I'm 6'4", 165 lbs. 25 years old.

Holy cow!! You need to gain weight, big time. Good luck, starting eating a lot and lifting heavy.

Koing, yeah, my DL is pretty far ahead of my squat. Hopefully the gap will close some over time.

Dude, I don't buy that that I need to be/look big. I'm well within the 'healthy' Body Mass Index range. I DO expect to gain some weight through muscle gain. Weight is simply not an issue that I focus on. My goal is to be healthy/fit.

you're still bigger than i used to be. 6'4 165 = 20.1 BMI. mine was 15.1 not long ago 😛

 

[brikis98]

Goals

Squat: 365x5
Deadlift: 405x5
Bench: 315x5

Weight: 200lbs

Current

Squat: 315x5
Deadlift: 355x5
Bench: 285x5

Weight: 215lbs
Height: 5'11"

Comments

The hardest part of this won't be adding weight to my lifts, but losing weight from my body while I do it. I'm doing a decent amount of interval training on off days from the gym, including boxing & sprinting, which should let me burn off fat w/o affecting too much muscle. I'm also doing Bill Star's 5x5 now which has me scheduled to hit my numbers after ~10 weeks. honestly, i think that's overly optimistic, but the year is 52 weeks long, so hopefully i'll get there eventually 🙂

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: brikis98
Goals

Squat: 365x5
Deadlift: 405x5
Bench: 315x5

Weight: 200lbs

Current

Squat: 315x5
Deadlift: 355x5
Bench: 285x5

Weight: 215lbs
Height: 5'11"

Comments

The hardest part of this won't be adding weight to my lifts, but losing weight from my body while I do it. I'm doing a decent amount of interval training on off days from the gym, including boxing & sprinting, which should let me burn off fat w/o affecting too much muscle. I'm also doing Bill Star's 5x5 now which has me scheduled to hit my numbers after ~10 weeks. honestly, i think that's overly optimistic, but the year is 52 weeks long, so hopefully i'll get there eventually 🙂

The bench press is possible within 10 weeks. The Squat and DL look less likely. Possibly get 2-3reps out at your new weights.

It depends on what type of lifter you are and how long it has taken you to get your current lifts. If your fairly new you could add 50lbs in to your lifts and get the 5reps within 10 weeks. That would be really impressive gains imo, along with your cutting.

Let us know. It would be interesting to see how you do.

Koing

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: brikis98
Goals

Squat: 365x5
Deadlift: 405x5
Bench: 315x5

Weight: 200lbs

Current

Squat: 315x5
Deadlift: 355x5
Bench: 285x5

Weight: 215lbs
Height: 5'11"

Comments

The hardest part of this won't be adding weight to my lifts, but losing weight from my body while I do it. I'm doing a decent amount of interval training on off days from the gym, including boxing & sprinting, which should let me burn off fat w/o affecting too much muscle. I'm also doing Bill Star's 5x5 now which has me scheduled to hit my numbers after ~10 weeks. honestly, i think that's overly optimistic, but the year is 52 weeks long, so hopefully i'll get there eventually 🙂

The bench press is possible within 10 weeks. The Squat and DL look less likely. Possibly get 2-3reps out at your new weights.

It depends on what type of lifter you are and how long it has taken you to get your current lifts. If your fairly new you could add 50lbs in to your lifts and get the 5reps within 10 weeks. That would be really impressive gains imo, along with your cutting.

Let us know. It would be interesting to see how you do.

Koing

heh i'm the exact opposite. if that was me, i could get my deadlifts up no problem, the bench would be my problem 😀

 

[Pollock]

...hopefully this isn't just for lifting weights?

I'd like to break my school's mile record of 4:19, but given what I was running last year, and even with some extra room, I think low-mid 4:20s is all I could realistically do.

I'd also like to break the 3200m record of 9:43, which I think is a lot more doable. The 800m record is untouchable given my lack of leg speed.

 

[paulxcook]

Originally posted by: Pollock
...hopefully this isn't just for lifting weights?

I'd like to break my school's mile record of 4:19, but given what I was running last year, and even with some extra room, I think low-mid 4:20s is all I could realistically do.

I'd also like to break the 3200m record of 9:43, which I think is a lot more doable. The 800m record is untouchable given my lack of leg speed.

Nope, it's for any health/fitness goals you have. Good luck with your times, the fact that you're shooting for them means you must be in incredible cardiovascular shape.