go to gym, or work out at home?

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: hoihtah

Originally posted by: SnapIT

I have heard this before, have you ever even set foot in a gym? to me this argument just means that you are to lazy to drag your bum down to a gym...

I go to a gym, i work out HARD and they have all the equipment i need and then some... then i go home...

THAT is what you do in a gym... check it out sometime, maybe you will find that it is not a social club...

You can get advice in the gym, there are people you can ask to spot you, there is really NO reason NOT to do it...

you caught me there snapit. i'm a lazy bum that does not drag my arse down to a gym.

i've been to a gym a few times back in my college days.
but my experiences were as stated in my earlier post.

my wife is a sports medicine major. and she's been working in gyms for majority of her post college years.
and from what she tells me, you seem to be a minority.

i must say, i commend you for your concentration on working out. it's good to hear that there are people out there who goes to gyms for other reasons than meat marketing.

Actually, i get somewhat riled up by this stereotype because it usually comes from people who use it as an excuse not to work out and then try to ridicule the ones who do...

I have heard all of those things before... there may be people who are only there to socialise, but trust me, plenty of us are there to train hard just for the satisfaction of the iron game...

And you can't train hard at home?

Yup, you are right silly man 30,000,000,000,000,000 lbs of weights won't do me any good so i better not go to a gym...

There is only one good thing about a home gym, that is that you do not have to go to a real gym... so, if there are no real gym's near you, go for it...

A real gym has professional equipment, all the weights you want, all the machines you need, you can ask sombody to spot you, you can ask people for advice...



<-- Works out at a gym.

When did I ever say having too many weights is a bad thing? I have the option of a full membership at 24 Hour Fitness for $10 a month from work - less than what I pay per month for my cell phone and net connection - I have the option of all the weights I want, all the machines I want, a spotter, and people to ask for advice as well as hot chicks in spandex, hell 3 years at that price is still less than what I paid for the equipment at home, but I choose to workout at home because I feel more comfortable doing so as does quite a few people here. Just because it's not justified in your mind doesn't make people who work out at home any less committed to weight lifting than you, Mr. "Im all bad because I work out at a gym"

obviously you did not get anything i said so go read it again...

Your first answer was rather stupid, so i assumed that you were pretty stupid too, enormous exaggerations tend to have that effect on me... just as when someone tells me "this pill will make you shed fat like crazy, like 5 pounds a week"... if you know what i mean...

Did i say you are not "justified" working out at home... you do make up the statements as you go along, don't you?

The point was, you can do whatever you want at home, but do not expect the results that you can get from professional equipment, advice, spotters and the feeling of stepping into the house of the iron game...

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: hoihtah

Originally posted by: SnapIT

I have heard this before, have you ever even set foot in a gym? to me this argument just means that you are to lazy to drag your bum down to a gym...

I go to a gym, i work out HARD and they have all the equipment i need and then some... then i go home...

THAT is what you do in a gym... check it out sometime, maybe you will find that it is not a social club...

You can get advice in the gym, there are people you can ask to spot you, there is really NO reason NOT to do it...

you caught me there snapit. i'm a lazy bum that does not drag my arse down to a gym.

i've been to a gym a few times back in my college days.
but my experiences were as stated in my earlier post.

my wife is a sports medicine major. and she's been working in gyms for majority of her post college years.
and from what she tells me, you seem to be a minority.

i must say, i commend you for your concentration on working out. it's good to hear that there are people out there who goes to gyms for other reasons than meat marketing.

Actually, i get somewhat riled up by this stereotype because it usually comes from people who use it as an excuse not to work out and then try to ridicule the ones who do...

I have heard all of those things before... there may be people who are only there to socialise, but trust me, plenty of us are there to train hard just for the satisfaction of the iron game...

And you can't train hard at home?

Yup, you are right silly man 30,000,000,000,000,000 lbs of weights won't do me any good so i better not go to a gym...

There is only one good thing about a home gym, that is that you do not have to go to a real gym... so, if there are no real gym's near you, go for it...

A real gym has professional equipment, all the weights you want, all the machines you need, you can ask sombody to spot you, you can ask people for advice...



<-- Works out at a gym.

When did I ever say having too many weights is a bad thing? I have the option of a full membership at 24 Hour Fitness for $10 a month from work - less than what I pay per month for my cell phone and net connection - I have the option of all the weights I want, all the machines I want, a spotter, and people to ask for advice as well as hot chicks in spandex, hell 3 years at that price is still less than what I paid for the equipment at home, but I choose to workout at home because I feel more comfortable doing so as does quite a few people here. Just because it's not justified in your mind doesn't make people who work out at home any less committed to weight lifting than you, Mr. "Im all bad because I work out at a gym"

obviously you did not get anything i said so go read it again...

Your first answer was rather stupid, so i assumed that you were pretty stupid too, enormous exaggerations tend to have that effect on me... just as when someone tells me "this pill will make you shed fat like crazy, like 5 pounds a week"... if you know what i mean...

Did i say you are not "justified" working out at home... you do make up the statements as you go along, don't you?

The point was, you can do whatever you want at home, but do not expect the results that you can get from professional equipment, advice, spotters and the feeling of stepping into the house of the iron game...

And people don't work out at home to look like Ronnie Coleman - they do it to stay in shape and build a muscular frame. And my statements were stupid? Go read what you wrote again. I made the exaggeration because you make it sound like everyone who works out at home only has 10lbs worth of free weights or they're poor or something. You took it the wrong way - not my fault. Im through with this argument so go spew your crap to someone who cares.

 

[PG]

Smith machines do not count huh... well... you are just wrong, there are instances when you SHOULD perform an inline movement but cannot do so if you go heavy, then the smith machine SAVES joints... but i guess you are not aware of that huh... for sissy squats, i find a smith machine excellent... now, could you tell me how a smith machine would not be benificial in that area? for benches? for overhead presses? those are all excersises where the smithmachine do more good than harm... if you are going to say something like that, then at least get your facts straight...

LOL, where do I even start.

sissy squats? that's an exercise for pumper and toner types

Benches and overhead presss are NOT best done in a Smith machine. As I said the first time the bar does NOT travel in a straight line when you lift a barbell. Smith machines force you to move in a very unnatural way and it can cause joint problems. You need to get your facts straight.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: hoihtah

Originally posted by: SnapIT

I have heard this before, have you ever even set foot in a gym? to me this argument just means that you are to lazy to drag your bum down to a gym...

I go to a gym, i work out HARD and they have all the equipment i need and then some... then i go home...

THAT is what you do in a gym... check it out sometime, maybe you will find that it is not a social club...

You can get advice in the gym, there are people you can ask to spot you, there is really NO reason NOT to do it...

you caught me there snapit. i'm a lazy bum that does not drag my arse down to a gym.

i've been to a gym a few times back in my college days.
but my experiences were as stated in my earlier post.

my wife is a sports medicine major. and she's been working in gyms for majority of her post college years.
and from what she tells me, you seem to be a minority.

i must say, i commend you for your concentration on working out. it's good to hear that there are people out there who goes to gyms for other reasons than meat marketing.

Actually, i get somewhat riled up by this stereotype because it usually comes from people who use it as an excuse not to work out and then try to ridicule the ones who do...

I have heard all of those things before... there may be people who are only there to socialise, but trust me, plenty of us are there to train hard just for the satisfaction of the iron game...

And you can't train hard at home?

Yup, you are right silly man 30,000,000,000,000,000 lbs of weights won't do me any good so i better not go to a gym...

There is only one good thing about a home gym, that is that you do not have to go to a real gym... so, if there are no real gym's near you, go for it...

A real gym has professional equipment, all the weights you want, all the machines you need, you can ask sombody to spot you, you can ask people for advice...



<-- Works out at a gym.

When did I ever say having too many weights is a bad thing? I have the option of a full membership at 24 Hour Fitness for $10 a month from work - less than what I pay per month for my cell phone and net connection - I have the option of all the weights I want, all the machines I want, a spotter, and people to ask for advice as well as hot chicks in spandex, hell 3 years at that price is still less than what I paid for the equipment at home, but I choose to workout at home because I feel more comfortable doing so as does quite a few people here. Just because it's not justified in your mind doesn't make people who work out at home any less committed to weight lifting than you, Mr. "Im all bad because I work out at a gym"

obviously you did not get anything i said so go read it again...

Your first answer was rather stupid, so i assumed that you were pretty stupid too, enormous exaggerations tend to have that effect on me... just as when someone tells me "this pill will make you shed fat like crazy, like 5 pounds a week"... if you know what i mean...

Did i say you are not "justified" working out at home... you do make up the statements as you go along, don't you?

The point was, you can do whatever you want at home, but do not expect the results that you can get from professional equipment, advice, spotters and the feeling of stepping into the house of the iron game...

And people don't work out at home to look like Ronnie Coleman - they do it to stay in shape and build a muscular frame. And my statements were stupid? Go read what you wrote again. I made the exaggeration because you make it sound like everyone who works out at home only has 10lbs worth of free weights or they're poor or something. You took it the wrong way - not my fault. Im through with this argument so go spew your crap to someone who cares.

Christ almighty are you dense... you just imagined what i wrote instead of reading it...

DID I SAY WHAT YOU ASSUMED? NO...

YOU took it the wrong way, but you would never admit that, now would you...

I am saying that if you want to add pounds of muscle to your frame, then a gym is a better choice, you can dispute that all you like, but in the end, both you and i know that that is the truth... idiot! a home gym is second best, can you really dispute that?

You continue your exaggerations by saying that i meant that if you own a home gym you just have 10lbs worth of free weights... yup, that is what i said... idiot...

What i meant was that you can never have the same amount of weights, machines, professional equipment to match a real gym... dispute that all you want to... maybe you are rich enough to be able to have all that, but most people are not...

Shut your mouth now before you make an even bigger fool out of yourself...

 

[Gaard]

You guys are funny.

"I work out at a gym. It's better."

"I work out at home. It's better."

"What? You're full of sh!t! It's much better to work out at a gym."

"You're crazy! Working out at home is just as good."


I work out in the garage.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: PG

Smith machines do not count huh... well... you are just wrong, there are instances when you SHOULD perform an inline movement but cannot do so if you go heavy, then the smith machine SAVES joints... but i guess you are not aware of that huh... for sissy squats, i find a smith machine excellent... now, could you tell me how a smith machine would not be benificial in that area? for benches? for overhead presses? those are all excersises where the smithmachine do more good than harm... if you are going to say something like that, then at least get your facts straight...

LOL, where do I even start.

sissy squats? that's an exercise for pumper and toner types

Benches and overhead presss are NOT best done in a Smith machine. As I said the first time the bar does NOT travel in a straight line when you lift a barbell. Smith machines force you to move in a very unnatural way and it can cause joint problems. You need to get your facts straight.

I have done this for more than ten years, i have competed in bodybuilding, are you telling me i have done it all wrong? WOW... who are you?

The benchpress should be performed in an inline motion, so should the overhead press... and sissysquats are NOT for pumper and toner types... that statement just shows that you have NO idea what you are talking about...

 

[Braves]

i... don't work out at all
i... am in horrible shape
i... could care less

 

[oLLie]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: PG

Smith machines do not count huh... well... you are just wrong, there are instances when you SHOULD perform an inline movement but cannot do so if you go heavy, then the smith machine SAVES joints... but i guess you are not aware of that huh... for sissy squats, i find a smith machine excellent... now, could you tell me how a smith machine would not be benificial in that area? for benches? for overhead presses? those are all excersises where the smithmachine do more good than harm... if you are going to say something like that, then at least get your facts straight...

LOL, where do I even start.

sissy squats? that's an exercise for pumper and toner types

Benches and overhead presss are NOT best done in a Smith machine. As I said the first time the bar does NOT travel in a straight line when you lift a barbell. Smith machines force you to move in a very unnatural way and it can cause joint problems. You need to get your facts straight.

I have done this for more than ten years, i have competed in bodybuilding, are you telling me i have done it all wrong? WOW... who are you?

The benchpress should be performed in an inline motion, so should the overhead press... and sissysquats are NOT for pumper and toner types... that statement just shows that you have NO idea what you are talking about...

What's a Smith machine?

 

[SludgeFactory]

I like the gym, it's motivating to see other people working out and trying to improve. There are tons of dumbells, machines, and expensive cardio equipment that I could never afford. I tend to work faster in the gym, I'm more conscious of time, I focus much better, don't have to waste time changing adjustable dumbells like at home. The speed advantage can be negated when it's too crowded though :frown: But the scenery in the gym can be pretty good

But there's nothing wrong with doing it at home, you can have good workouts there too. Plus it's more convenient than driving to the gym, and you never have to wait for equipment. And it's usually cheaper in the long run -- just spend the money up front on a good set of olympic weights, a bench, a squat rack, and a pullup bar. It all depends on your situation, whether you have room for weights, have time to go to the gym, where you feel most comfortable, etc.

As far as Smith machines go, I don't spend much time in them. I much prefer to do the exercises freely, concentrating on form, instead of having my form dicatated by the path of a machine. Anything that limits movement or restricts it to a certain plane is bad IMO, and if your joints don't agree with the forced path you'll eventually get injured. I use it for calf raises, the range of motion is small and I can load the bar up heavy and not have to worry about balance.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: hoihtah

Originally posted by: SnapIT

I have heard this before, have you ever even set foot in a gym? to me this argument just means that you are to lazy to drag your bum down to a gym...

I go to a gym, i work out HARD and they have all the equipment i need and then some... then i go home...

THAT is what you do in a gym... check it out sometime, maybe you will find that it is not a social club...

You can get advice in the gym, there are people you can ask to spot you, there is really NO reason NOT to do it...

you caught me there snapit. i'm a lazy bum that does not drag my arse down to a gym.

i've been to a gym a few times back in my college days.
but my experiences were as stated in my earlier post.

my wife is a sports medicine major. and she's been working in gyms for majority of her post college years.
and from what she tells me, you seem to be a minority.

i must say, i commend you for your concentration on working out. it's good to hear that there are people out there who goes to gyms for other reasons than meat marketing.

I think your wife is just trying to keep you away from gyms so that you don't check out other women. Seriously!

 

[yakko]

I would rather do it at home so I can workout in my underwear.

 

[DumbQuestion]

There is always an argument for and against.

As for getting a better work out at the gym that goes without saying as there is way more equipment. If there is the correct equipment there is a better chance of doing the exercise properly without injury.

People will say that you can work everything at home. That can be true in some cases but what about for example triceps.... You could do dips of a chair and over head extensions but they only hit 2 out of the three heads therefore it would be better at gym.

What about forearms? How many people have a for arm machine at home.

And if you say that there is no need to get detailed as that.... What is the use of doing some of the muscles and not all of them!


I do not believe in doing cardio at gym that is ridiculous get out there and walk, ride a bike, swim and ride a bike.

My .02 worth

 

[skace]

I am in the home crowd, as I find it is much more convenient and consistant for me. See, for most people the only thing that keeps them going to a gym is that "I paid for it and don't want to waste it", but that doesn't work on me, since I don't really care about half the stuff I pay for. So if I feel like crap or its late or im not dressed, I won't want to go to the gym. But at home, there is really no excuse not to work out, except, 'your a fat lazy punk'.

I can work out consistently at home regardless of how that day is going or where I am able to fit it into my schedule. And if, for whatever reason, I fail to work out, I feel terrible about it because there was no excuse for failing not to do it. If it is snowing / raining out... even more reason to stay inside and work out.

A treadmill and a free weight system = perfect home workout.

 

[gotsmack]

I work out at home. I have the option to use the gym at my school for free, but it's a waste of time getting there because I only workout for maybe 20 minutes a few days a week. I just want to do a few curls and pulllups. So I bought a pullup frame and an adjustable dumbell set. cost me $150 at sports authority.

 

[B00ne]

Well, the women at the gym usually look nicer than at home plus there are usually more - now u decide....

 

[vi edit]

Arguing this IS POINTLESS.

Everyone has different body types, lifting goals, response to lifting, expendable income, ect. ect. ect.

The IMPORTANT thing is that you do what works for you. If paying $30 a month, hot women in spandex, and all the latest gizgos and doodads available to you get you down to the gym to workout, then more power to you. Go to a gym.

If you like lifting in the comfort of your own home, listening to your own music, and don't mind sacrificing cutting edge technology and selection for convenience, then work out at home.

It's simple really. If you are happy with what you are doing, and satisfied with the results, then stick to it. There is no point in arguing this further.

 

[crystal]

Was going to posted on this thread but couldn't.

First it work, then it is not.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Arguing this IS POINTLESS.

Everyone has different body types, lifting goals, response to lifting, expendable income, ect. ect. ect.

The IMPORTANT thing is that you do what works for you. If paying $30 a month, hot women in spandex, and all the latest gizgos and doodads available to you get you down to the gym to workout, then more power to you. Go to a gym.

If you like lifting in the comfort of your own home, listening to your own music, and don't mind sacrificing cutting edge technology and selection for convenience, then work out at home.

It's simple really. If you are happy with what you are doing, and satisfied with the results, then stick to it. There is no point in arguing this further.

I agree, if you are happy with your results... then stick to it, it obviously works for you...

 

[PG]

I have done this for more than ten years, i have competed in bodybuilding, are you telling me i have done it all wrong? WOW... who are you?

The benchpress should be performed in an inline motion, so should the overhead press... and sissysquats are NOT for pumper and toner types... that statement just shows that you have NO idea what you are talking about...

I should have known by your tone and attitude that you were a bodybuilder type of person. I think you need to switch to decaf and take it easy on the "supplements".


When you perform a standing overhead press the bar is in FRONT of your center of gravity. As you press upwards the bar will naturally move up and BACK over your head. That is not perfectly straight up. The same happens with a bench press. The bar will move from above your lower chest to up more toward your head as you press. This is a natural motion and it is not straight up and down.

I don't quite understand why you think experience means that you know more, but here's the opinion of a guy who has written several good books and he has much more experience than either of us:

http://www.hardgainer.com/stuart/110400.html

Squatting, pressing and benching in the Smith machine forces the joints to travel in grooves that are not natural. This results in exaggerated stresses on the joints which, in most cases, if persisted with, sooner or later produces joint problems.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: PG

I have done this for more than ten years, i have competed in bodybuilding, are you telling me i have done it all wrong? WOW... who are you?

The benchpress should be performed in an inline motion, so should the overhead press... and sissysquats are NOT for pumper and toner types... that statement just shows that you have NO idea what you are talking about...

I should have known by your tone and attitude that you were a bodybuilder type of person. I think you need to switch to decaf and take it easy on the "supplements".


When you perform a standing overhead press the bar is in FRONT of your center of gravity. As you press upwards the bar will naturally move up and BACK over your head. That is not perfectly straight up. The same happens with a bench press. The bar will move from above your lower chest to up more toward your head as you press. This is a natural motion and it is not straight up and down.

I don't quite understand why you think experience means that you know more, but here's the opinion of a guy who has written several good books and he has much more experience than either of us:

http://www.hardgainer.com/stuart/110400.html

Squatting, pressing and benching in the Smith machine forces the joints to travel in grooves that are not natural. This results in exaggerated stresses on the joints which, in most cases, if persisted with, sooner or later produces joint problems.

oh christ, you do not have a clue now do you, sissy squatting is the free weight leg raises... so you want to be a toner and not perform them...

And NO, you fool, smith presses do NOT increase the stress on the joints... it is pretty clear to me, as an inline motion would produce LESS stress to the joints... why don't you check out the variable motion schematic before making such statements...

And yes, do continue to refer to me and my "supplements" if you can't beat them, try something else, right... i am sooooooo damn sick of people of your attitude, i have worked out HARD for ten years, these are th&ouml;e results, your stupidity and ignorance will not change that...

The supplements i use are all legal, so why don't you take your stereotypical statement and shove it, just because you do not have the drive and will doesn't mean that everyone has to be as weak as you...

When it comes to overhead presses... if you do them standing up, those would be military presses, and if you check out how the joints are made, you would see that an incline motion would be beneficial...

Now if you have any more envious comments, spout them elsewhere, i am tired of people who think that you are a steroid freak just because you have worked out hard for ten years and got results from it... you are what i like to refer to as a "wannabe" who uses the steroid accusation for those who actually make it..

 

[phatcow]

i say do both.... i go to the gym for the weight machines...

and i bought a wieght set

 

[PG]

SnapIT, I was giving you a hard time about "supplements" because you act like you're going to have an anurism over a simple discussion here on the internet. Take it easy.

I just don't like sissy squats or the Smith machine and I base my opinion on what other more experienced people have said. Here's another:

http://www.naturalstrength.com/features/detail2.asp?AuthorID=58&ArticleID=496

TEN Stupid Things Lifters Do To Mess Up Their Training
By David Studenick

....

2) Performing risky movements that jeopardize joint integrity

When it comes to training longevity, the key is not to get injured in the gym. And some exercises are just better suited towards training than others. Particularly avoid wide grip pulldowns, pulldowns behind the neck, presses behind the neck, wide grip bench presses, dumbbell or machine flyes, bench presses to the neck, bench pressing with a cambered bar, "Arnold" presses, upright rows, and any pressing motion using a Smith Machine. Any or all of these will put a strain on your shoulder joint. And having a joint injury that prevents you from going to the gym will do nothing to contribute to your getting bigger.

Other exercises to avoid include power cleans, good mornings, squats with heels on a block, "sissy" squats, and squats in a Smith Machine. These exercises impose a tremendous stress on the knees and/or back. And again, you can't train if you're injured.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: PG
SnapIT, I was giving you a hard time about "supplements" because you act like you're going to have an anurism over a simple discussion here on the internet. Take it easy.

I just don't like sissy squats or the Smith machine and I base my opinion on what other more experienced people have said. Here's another:

http://www.naturalstrength.com/features/detail2.asp?AuthorID=58&ArticleID=496

TEN Stupid Things Lifters Do To Mess Up Their Training
By David Studenick

....

2) Performing risky movements that jeopardize joint integrity

When it comes to training longevity, the key is not to get injured in the gym. And some exercises are just better suited towards training than others. Particularly avoid wide grip pulldowns, pulldowns behind the neck, presses behind the neck, wide grip bench presses, dumbbell or machine flyes, bench presses to the neck, bench pressing with a cambered bar, "Arnold" presses, upright rows, and any pressing motion using a Smith Machine. Any or all of these will put a strain on your shoulder joint. And having a joint injury that prevents you from going to the gym will do nothing to contribute to your getting bigger.

Other exercises to avoid include power cleans, good mornings, squats with heels on a block, "sissy" squats, and squats in a Smith Machine. These exercises impose a tremendous stress on the knees and/or back. And again, you can't train if you're injured.

Well, isn't that nice, you continue to infer that i am a steroid freak...

David Studenick, do you even know who this guy is? do you know how many injuries he has sustained while preching his way of training...

Just becaues it is written doesn't make it true, i have studied biomechanics and i tell you that an incline movement isn't only beneficial, it is the ultimate movement!

Now, i never said anything about powercleans, squats or deadlifts at a smith machine, did i... you make things up and believe your own twisted words...

I could probably produce an article that says that NOT working out is your best choice, would you try it out?

Listen, you can produce a multitude of articles coming from sources that have never studied the human body... go ahead, that will not make you more right...

I know what works from what i have tried and studied, and i if i want to know something, i turn to scientific sources... i suggest that you do the same... or learn biomechanics and you can figure it out yourself...

By every post you make, you just look more and more like an idot to me, no words of your own, but questionable words from someone who knows even less...

 

[PG]

By every post you make, you just look more and more like an idot to me, no words of your own, but questionable words from someone who knows even less...

After this post I give up. I have posted quotes from reputable people who have decades of experience but all you do is resort to childish name-calling. You have not discussed even one point or article that I have posted.

Well, isn't that nice, you continue to infer that i am a steroid freak...

I realize that you probably don't take any roids, but you are getting pretty worked up over a simple discussion.

Now, i never said anything about powercleans, squats or deadlifts at a smith machine, did i... you make things up and believe your own twisted words...

The guy states that sissy squats can be bad for the knees. He also talks about using the Smith machine for pressing movements. That was why I quoted him, but maybe you missed those parts of the sentences.

I know what works from what i have tried and studied, and i if i want to know something, i turn to scientific sources... i suggest that you do the same... or learn biomechanics and you can figure it out yourself...

I do continue to try to learn and to keep an open mind. I'll only be an idiot when I dismiss the opinions of people who have decades more experience than me.

As I said I'm done with this thread. Good luck with your training.

 

[Draco]

Originally posted by: sohcrates
I find if i'm home i sit around and do nothing

If i get my butt out to the gym i see everyone else and can get motivated much easier

But that's just me

My thoughts exactly. Before i joined the gym, I really wasn't motivated. Now that I have access to all this great equipment and facilities I go all the time.