Go over your comcast limit twice and you can get banned

[First]

Actually pirating uses less bandwidth than streaming video because pirated videos are rarely high quality. The top torrent result for the movie Watchmen is only 900mb. The video you'll find on something like netflix is much much larger. HD video on Netflix or Youtube is several times larger than that.

I don't know anyone, pirate or not, who would download a 900MB non-HD movie over a compressed 720p 2GB movie.

Game servers are another thing that take a lot of bandwidth. When I ran a dedicated server for Team Fortress Classic, 60KB/s (bytes, not bits) would allow about 12 clients, and the server was almost always full. Over a month, 60KB/s adds up to 148GB. That was 10 years ago. Modern games like TF2 require about 20KB/s for each client. If your kid likes playing games and he doesn't like being banned for saying racist stuff all the time, he could start his own game server without you knowing and you'd run over that 250GB limit in no time.

Uh, seriously, basically no significant number of people host their own game servers.

To be fair, families are the major exception here, especially ones with 2+ children. But that's really it, very few exceptions other than large families for going over 250GB. That number will (and should) increase over time as we move past 1080p/BD, but it's perfectly adequate right now.

So you can or can't do the math?

The point has escaped you.

 

[ch33zw1z]

The point has escaped you.

Sure, whatever you say. I'll take that as a no to my question.

 

[First]

Sure, whatever you say. I'll take that as a no to my question.

I've already done the math, check the thread slick.

 

[spidey07]

Sure, whatever you say. I'll take that as a no to my question.

You can effectively divide Mbs by 10 to get MBs and work the math from there. Yeah, I know 8 bits in a byte but dividing by 10 takes account for protocol overhead and acknowledgements to get actual throughput. It's a very good estimate.

 

[Zargon]

You can effectively divide Mbs by 10 to get MBs and work the math from there. Yeah, I know 8 bits in a byte but dividing by 10 takes account for protocol overhead and acknowledgements to get actual throughput. It's a very good estimate.

cool I'll have to remember that

 

[SunnyD]

You pay for a 250GB cap which will allow you to stream a bunch of movies...pay for the unlimited plan and quit complaining.

Damn cheap azzez here that want everything but don't want to pay for it....typical....

The point is, it's the exact same line, the exact same internet, but now twice the price for much less than half the service? Pay more for less... god I love this country.

 

[her209]

Unless you switch to business, then it's on.

For an extra $10-15 per connection. So if the 5% or whatever arbitrary number it is now that uses more than 250GB/mo did that, Comcast would magically be able to afford "unlimited" bandwidth for everyone.

"unlimited" = everyone being under their caps

 

[Evadman]

Do the math; even at 5GB per movie that's just 150GB per month if you watch a movie every single day. Sure, families would be different, but the vast majority still won't hit 250GB.

What is the average number of hours TV is watched per day? Last I heard, it was > 5 hours. using your numbers (about 2.5gb per hour), You would pass your 250 GB limit with 375 GB used per month, without using any other data services (voip phone, internet).

comcast just wants to set a limit so they don't have to upgrade their lines. Why not just call it that so we can all get over it?

 

[spidey07]

What is the average number of hours TV is watched per day? Last I heard, it was > 5 hours. using your numbers (about 2.5gb per hour), You would pass your 250 GB limit with 375 GB used per month, without using any other data services (voip phone, internet).

comcast just wants to set a limit so they don't have to upgrade their lines. Why not just call it that so we can all get over it?

What do you mean not upgrade? They've been doing MASSIVE upgrades all over the country for the last 3 years for docsis 3.0.

What the hell are you talking about not upgrading? All while providing more and insane speeds without any increase in price.

 

[Zargon]

What do you mean not upgrade? They've been doing MASSIVE upgrades all over the country for the last 3 years for docsis 3.0.

What the hell are you talking about not upgrading? All while providing more and insane speeds without any increase in price.

what good is more speed with no raise in dl cap?

seriously, its a waste

 

[Evadman]

what good is more speed with no raise in dl cap?

seriously, its a waste

This.

 

[her209]

what good is more speed with no raise in dl cap?

seriously, its a waste

Its because they can then boast that they have 50Mbps and 100Mbps connections just like FiOS and U-Verse even though I don't think they have ever upgraded any residential customers to aforementioned speeds for free.

Meanwhile, Comcast claims it doesn't have enough bandwidth and must therefore cap customers, but at the same time, spends $40 billion in a deal to buy NBC.

 

[ShawnD1]

What is the average number of hours TV is watched per day? Last I heard, it was > 5 hours. using your numbers (about 2.5gb per hour), You would pass your 250 GB limit with 375 GB used per month, without using any other data services (voip phone, internet).

Factor in multiple TVs as well. Ma is watching her stories while pa is yelling at the TV and saying X football player is a homosexual.

what good is more speed with no raise in dl cap?

It's so multiple users don't get in each others way. I can watch porn in my room and you can watch porn in your room and neither of our porns will lag out.

 

[her209]

It's so multiple users don't get in each others way. I can watch porn in my room and you can watch porn in your room and neither of our porns will lag out.

Caps should only apply during peak hours then right?

 

[Nebor]

It's so multiple users don't get in each others way. I can watch porn in my room and you can watch porn in your room and neither of our porns will lag out.

Why can't we watch porn in the same room?

 

[Zargon]

Factor in multiple TVs as well. Ma is watching her stories while pa is yelling at the TV and saying X football player is a homosexual.


It's so multiple users don't get in each others way. I can watch porn in my room and you can watch porn in your room and neither of our porns will lag out.

I would argue that a 12mbps connection, the base around me, is more than enough to stream 2 porns in 720p. In fact, I know it is, because I have done it....

 

[spidey07]

I would argue that a 12mbps connection, the base around me, is more than enough to stream 2 porns in 720p. In fact, I know it is, because I have done it....

Left AND right hands eh? Impressive.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Left AND right hands eh? Impressive.

Double HD Porn! What does it mean?!

 

[ShawnD1]

Caps should only apply during peak hours then right?

Usually they cap your speed instead of capping your data, and that makes sense. When everyone is trying to access the internet, the only fair way to do this is to cut everyone down to the same speed and give everyone an equal yet slower connection. At night, there are no speed limits and you can download all the porn in the world in 20 minutes. Putting a data cap instead of a speed cap is just a cash grab and does absolutely nothing to improve the service.


We should let The Free Market™ (customers) figure out their own way of throttling connections. Charge internet the same way electricity is charged. Internet during peak hours should not be throttled, but it should cost more ($/gb). Internet at weird times like 3am would cost less. That way everybody wins. The really heavy bandwidth suckers would avoid peak hours because it's too damn expensive to pirate stuff at that time. The people who just use the internet for dicking around would have full speed cable during peak hours because the heavy bandwidth people are not using it at that time.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I've already done the math, check the thread slick.

I don't tend to reread, thus I asked you. Thanks for the new nickname? Just do the math for me, it's not hard right?

You can effectively divide Mbs by 10 to get MBs and work the math from there. Yeah, I know 8 bits in a byte but dividing by 10 takes account for protocol overhead and acknowledgements to get actual throughput. It's a very good estimate.

10 is a good estimate indeed, brings back memories of discussions from long ago.

 

[manimal]

Oh btw I heard that if you go over THREE times they send someone in a black suit and black helicopter to come find you.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Oh btw I heard that if you go over THREE times they send someone in a black suit and black helicopter to come find you.

as long as they're yelling "GET TO THE CHOPPA" while it's being executed

 

[lord_emperor]

We should let The Free Market™ (customers) figure out their own way of throttling connections. Charge internet the same way electricity is charged. Internet during peak hours should not be throttled, but it should cost more ($/gb). Internet at weird times like 3am would cost less. That way everybody wins. The really heavy bandwidth suckers would avoid peak hours because it's too damn expensive to pirate stuff at that time. The people who just use the internet for dicking around would have full speed cable during peak hours because the heavy bandwidth people are not using it at that time.

Alternatively, Comcast's monopoly should be broken and allow new ISPs to come in, make a relatively small investment in infrastructure and offer unlimited bandwidth to everybody.

 

[her209]

Usually they cap your speed instead of capping your data, and that makes sense. When everyone is trying to access the internet, the only fair way to do this is to cut everyone down to the same speed and give everyone an equal yet slower connection. At night, there are no speed limits and you can download all the porn in the world in 20 minutes. Putting a data cap instead of a speed cap is just a cash grab and does absolutely nothing to improve the service.

By virtue of shared bandwith, it does that automatically.

 

[Zargon]

Left AND right hands eh? Impressive.

mad skillz