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GM seeks deep cuts in white-collar ranks

GM really sucks nowadays eh? Cutting jobs, making terrible cars, ruining Saab...

With the smart moves Ford and Chrysler are making nowadays, I hope they gain the marketshare they deserve and leave stupid GM in the dust until they smarten up
 
So do white-collar workers mean management & executive folks?

That could be a good thing, GM already has enough beaucracy (sp?), cutting the fat would go a long way towards prosperity.

IF you want to see how good GM management is at interfering with product development/research you guys should read "All Corvettes are Red". I forgot who the author is, altho I'm sure you can find out on Amazon.com.

It's a really interesting read on the uphill battles the Corvette team had to fight to develop their car! At one point, they were doing their design behind GM's back since they <management> put a freeze on any new product developments. I'm surprised that they haven't learnt their lesson yet.

Carlos Ghosn said it best: "You can sell cars only with good products", or something to that effect.
 
Originally posted by: geno
GM really sucks nowadays eh? Cutting jobs, making terrible cars, ruining Saab...

With the smart moves Ford and Chrysler are making nowadays, I hope they gain the marketshare they deserve and leave stupid GM in the dust until they smarten up
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In 2004, only Chrysler gained market share. GM (about 24.4 percent) and Ford both lose big time. Toyota, Nissan, Honda, even Hyundai gained market shares.

FYI, GM shares are down more than 60 percent since 2000.

GM needs to build good looking, high quality, reliable, and not gas hungry vehicles. Good luck with that when they have current management and UAW workforce.
 
I'm not surpised. I worked for them and Chrysler.

We had more problems with GM, Chrysler was about 4000% more hands on.

They even had their own supervisor officed in our building.

GM would just send a rep every 8 months, for a day.
 
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Nebor
Oh My Gosh, if GM goes under who will continue to make pushrod actuated engines?!
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Chrysler 😀
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And Ford
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Aren't most all of Ford's engines OHC? 😕
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All of their car engines as far as I know, I was thinking more along the line of their truck motors...but now that I'm looking it up, even the V10 has adopted the 3 valve design (didn't know this) so I guess even all of Ford's motors are OHC too as far as I know. So I was wrong I guess. Nebor's post is relevent though, since I think GM is the only company making pushrod motors for their cars (as opposed to trucks), it might be reliable, but god damn it's old tech compared to a nice quiet OHC motor 🙂
 
Bankruptcy in 2 easy steps:
1) Cut your fuel effiencient vehicle programs in favor of large trucks and SUVs as soon as gap prices spike.
2) Fire 11,000 people
 
Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
Bankruptcy in 2 easy steps:
1) Cut your fuel effiencient vehicle programs in favor of large trucks and SUVs as soon as gap prices spike.
2) Fire 11,000 people
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LOL:laugh:
 
Well my friend just bought a 2005 Impala so there's a little bit for GM's bottom line.

Of course...it had 4,000 in rebates. But American car companies and rebates are like Dell and coupons...probably doesn't mean that much.
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Oh My Gosh, if GM goes under who will continue to make pushrod actuated engines?!
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There's nothing wrong with pushrod engines. The LS series V8's are some of the best engines ever produced for a production car. Compact, lightweight, great powerband and very efficient. The Corvette gets 28 or 29 mpg.
 
Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
Bankruptcy in 2 easy steps:
1) Cut your fuel effiencient vehicle programs in favor of large trucks and SUVs as soon as gap prices spike.
2) Fire 11,000 people
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3) Pay $60 BILLION a year in health care benefits to retirees
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
Bankruptcy in 2 easy steps:
1) Cut your fuel effiencient vehicle programs in favor of large trucks and SUVs as soon as gap prices spike.
2) Fire 11,000 people
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3) Pay $60 BILLION a year in health care benefits to retirees
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Companies are learning the hard way that paying retirement pay and healthcare for ex-workers kills the company. By the time I retire, I can't expect a company to help me out. I'm sure they'll wrestle the benefits away from everyone.
 
Can some one explain to me why GM (and other automakers) just dump the UAW and hire non-unionized people? Or form another union with better people and better rules?

I fail to see how the employees can strangle a large company like GM?

This whole paying $60Billion for retirees is bullshit! I was reading in hte paper that in 2001 their expenditure in taht area was in teh millions....and now it shot up to the billions!

Someoen is scamming them.
 
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Nebor
Oh My Gosh, if GM goes under who will continue to make pushrod actuated engines?!
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There's nothing wrong with pushrod engines. The LS series V8's are some of the best engines ever produced for a production car. Compact, lightweight, great powerband and very efficient. The Corvette gets 28 or 29 mpg.
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Well, there's not really anything wrong with Cathode Ray Tubes either...
 
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