GM Food - Seeds of Deception by Jeffrey Smith

[chusteczka]

The following link contains a video (6 parts x 10 minutes each) discussing important facts concerning genetically modified foods. There is much important information here. Below are only some of the important bits of information I was able to take notes on.

http://newworldorder.com.pl/film.php?id=507

Jeffrey Smith
Seeds of Deception
http://www.seedsofdeception.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Seeds-Deceptio.../dp/0972966587



Four main food crops:

• soy
• corn
• cottonseed oil
• canola

Genetically Modified foods create:

• Allergies
• Toxins
• Antibiotic Resistant Diseases
• Nutritional Problems

FDA executives also worked for Monsanto.

"If a politician is telling you that genetically modified foods are safe, he is either very stupid or he is lieing."

Those who drink milk with rBGH develop breast cancer or prostate cancer.

Independent study of Aspartame vs. Industry study of Aspartame.
100% of Independent studies raised questions on the safety of aspartame.
0% of Industry studies raised questions on aspartame.


"The U.S. media is close-lipped about the potential safety hazards, and certainly about the corruption taking place."

"Studies show the more people know about genetic modification, the more concern they have."

When given a choice, animals refused to eat GM foods. This includes rats, wild geese, cows, and even pigs.

Rats fed only GM foods developed stomach lesions, blood cell formation problems, liver cell formation problems, and heavier livers.

"Pigs fed GM corn on several farms developed false pregnancies or became sterile."

"In the Philippines, thirty-nine people living next to a field of GM corn developed skin, respiratory, and intestinal reactions while the corn was pollinating."

 

[Throckmorton]

Bunko

 

[CanOWorms]

Opposition to Genetically Modified food creates:

• Technological regression
• Famine
• Millions of deaths
• Economic stagnation

 

[chusteczka]

The video mentions how genetically modified food is created and why this is bad for us. Basically, random and unknown changes are made to the protein and DNA structure. These random changes can then be passed on to cells in our own bodies or even to the bacteria within our digestion tract. Industry states that 90% of proteins and DNA are destroyed during digestion but human studies of people with colostomy bags found modified proteins and DNA survived the digestion process. The known result is the four issues noted above.

Opposition to GM food does not in any way create any of those things CanOWorms mentioned.

 

[nageov3t]

creating foods that can grow faster, in harsher conditions, and is more nutritious than its non-modified counterparts helps to fight famine and starvation.

personally, I think that if God didn't want my tomatoes to glow in the dark when they're not being watered enough, he wouldn't have given us the technology to do so... I think the allergen argument is a valid one, though. I've got a friend who won't eat most strawberries because she has insane fish allergies, so I'm glad the all-natural stuff is kept on store shelves for her.

 

[Slew Foot]

Someone needs a lesson in physiology.

If you think humans take random DNA from their GI tract and incorporate them into their own genome, then youre a fucking dumbass.

 

[Modelworks]

The biggest issue I have with modified food is the results are sometimes unpredictable. You could introduce a crop of corn that you think is well growing and so you use it to replace current crops, not knowing that the current crop had a resistance that your modified version is susceptible too.

I have no problem with them modifying genes in things, but they need to know exactly what those genes are and what they do. None of this change something randomly. It irks me to no end that even drugs approved by the FDA have quotes like "How it works is unknown, but we think" ,WTF ? what do you mean you think ? I'm taking this and nobody knows how it works ?

 

[chusteczka]

Someone needs a lesson in physiology.

If you think humans take random DNA from their GI tract and incorporate them into their own genome, then youre a fucking dumbass.

Your mind is closed and your manner is rude.

 

[bfdd]

Your mind is closed and your manner is rude.

And you're an idiot. Most genetically modified food didn't have it's DNA fucked with anyways. Cross breeding, splicing, etc are all ways of genetic modification. Without it over a billion people would of starved to death in like just the last 50 or 60 years. Also, what the hell are you talking about incorporating other DNA into our own. Do you have any idea how digestion works?

 

[blackangst1]

This is an issue near and dear to my heart. There certainly are benefits to modified food, but the downsides are far worse IMHO. And the mention of Monsanto...ugh...they are the reason I will not eat soy products if I can help it. There is more going on here than how modified food affects us physically. There are bigger financial and monopoly issues also. Corporations have systematically redefined what we as Americans think of as top quality food. Corn fed beef for example. Beef producers advertise it, when in fact, its unhealthy, for us and the cattle. But unless you look for something other, its all you can buy. I personally shop for grass fed open range beef, eggs, and poultry. You pay for it, thanks to the subsidies in the corn market, but for me its worth it.

Your links are a good partner to be considered along with the link in my sig. Good post OP.

 

[CanOWorms]

Opposition to GM food does not in any way create any of those things CanOWorms mentioned.

Of course it does. Anti-technology crazies stunt science. For example, Europe's irrational fear of GM foods leads to severe problems in Africa. Europe is a large source of their crops. There's a lot of fear in Africa that if they start using GM crops, Europe will destroy their economies.

You are playing with millions of lives.

Embrace the scientific consensus.

 

[Matthiasa]

Genetically Modified foods also create:
hypoallergenic foods
reduce toxicity
fight Antibiotic Resistant Diseases
Fix Nutritional Problems
Grow quicker
require less water
require less pesticides
require less fungicides
grow in more environments
etc.

 

[feralkid]

Someone needs a lesson in physiology.

If you think humans take random DNA from their GI tract and incorporate them into their own genome, then youre a fucking dumbass.

Not exactly like that, but have you never heard of Mutagens?

There are plenty of things that can be eaten, breathed, rubbed on your skin, etc. that make a genetic change that manifests itself in what we call Cancer.

Now I am not suggesting a GM foods-cancer link, per se, but don't be so quick to call someone a dumbass when your own knowledge of genetics could use a a little sharpening

 

[Throckmorton]

Not exactly like that, but have you never heard of Mutagens?

There are plenty of things that can be eaten, breathed, rubbed on your skin, etc. that make a genetic change that manifests itself in what we call Cancer.

Now I am not suggesting a GM foods-cancer link, per se, but don't be so quick to call someone a dumbass when your own knowledge of genetics could use a a little sharpening

The food's DNA is not a mutagen. Mutagens are things like ionizing radiation and certain chemicals.

 

[feralkid]

The food's DNA is not a mutagen. Mutagens are things like ionizing radiation and certain chemicals.

Yes, and they can be eaten and fuck up your DNA. That was my point.

Don't overcook your hamburger.

 

[JSt0rm]

to bad we cant know what has had gm ingredients and make the choice for ourselves if we want it or not.

 

[MJinZ]

Someone needs a lesson in physiology.

If you think humans take random DNA from their GI tract and incorporate them into their own genome, then youre a fucking dumbass.

If that were the case, we'd be all set. End of disease, no more need for doctors.

 

[blackangst1]

to bad we cant know what has had gm ingredients and make the choice for ourselves if we want it or not.

If youre truly interested JSt0rm, you can. Do some research and buy as much food locally as you can. And organic. It *is* quite a bit of work (Ive done it) but it can be done. Prepare to increase your food budget by about 10-20%. The reason fresh organic is more expensive has nothing to do with cost of growing or price gouging, but EVERYTHING to do with subsidies. For example, the net cost of producing a bushel of corn is more than what you can buy wholesale. Prices are ~about~ $4.00/bushel. How much is a bushel? About 56 pounds. When you factor in water, fertilizer, oil to run the tractors, etc, the cost of that bushel is much, much more. Reason? Corn is heavily subsidized. Its another reason we have moved away from sugar and in to corn syrup for ingredients. Political subsidies. Oh, and lets not forget ethenol.

Anyway. I could ramble a long time on this but I doubt many are interested lol

 

[JSt0rm]

If youre truly interested JSt0rm, you can. Do some research and buy as much food locally as you can. And organic. It *is* quite a bit of work (Ive done it) but it can be done. Prepare to increase your food budget by about 10-20%. The reason fresh organic is more expensive has nothing to do with cost of growing or price gouging, but EVERYTHING to do with subsidies. For example, the net cost of producing a bushel of corn is more than what you can buy wholesale. Prices are ~about~ $4.00/bushel. How much is a bushel? About 56 pounds. When you factor in water, fertilizer, oil to run the tractors, etc, the cost of that bushel is much, much more. Reason? Corn is heavily subsidized. Its another reason we have moved away from sugar and in to corn syrup for ingredients. Political subsidies. Oh, and lets not forget ethenol.

Anyway. I could ramble a long time on this but I doubt many are interested lol

I think you and I have found some common ground as I do shop organic as much as possible. What I would like to see is big agro and food companies forced to put on the label that the food is GM. This would allow the market to decide if people want that $ vs quality or health. It's not enough to assume all foods are GM unless they have the organic usda seal.

 

[Matthiasa]

Yeah the more expensive stuff is of lower quality and is worse for you... not much competition except people are afraid of the word GM.

 

[blackangst1]

I think you and I have found some common ground as I do shop organic as much as possible. What I would like to see is big agro and food companies forced to put on the label that the food is GM. This would allow the market to decide if people want that $ vs quality or health. It's not enough to assume all foods are GM unless they have the organic usda seal.

I understand. But its not just GM. Unless you buy local and organic, youre almost guaranteed to get...well, something similar. Walmart, of all places, is actually responding to the public's desire for healthy, organic food. They carry a number of natural organics from sometimes local producers. They even have range free chicken eggs (their brand). You just have to shop around. Alot of times the lines of who manufatures what gets very convoluted, unfortunately. For example, despite branding, most people dont realize wherever they buy their beef from, there is less than about a 25% chance it DIDNT come from IBP, part of Tyson. Its terrible. Anyway. If you havent seen the movie in my link, I think you would enjoy it.

 

[blackangst1]

Yeah the more expensive stuff is of lower quality and is worse for you... not much competition except people are afraid of the word GM.

What? You have that backwards, sir.

 

[Matthiasa]

What? You have that backwards, sir.

Not really.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally Posted by blackangst1
What? You have that backwards, sir.

Not really.

Yah, you do. Less expensive food is generally worse for you and has more modified food products in it. Or is my sarcasm meter in need of a battery?

 

[Matthiasa]

Yah, you do. Less expensive food is generally worse for you and has more modified food products in it. Or is my sarcasm meter in need of a battery?

I was talking non processed foods.
I know a Twinkie is really bad for you.
In this case it was properly modified gm crops vs organic non gm crops.