GM Boycott anyone?

[kevinthenerd]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051121/ap_on_bi_ge/gm

GM is cutting all kinds of American jobs. It's worse than the Flint, Mich. layoffs of years ago.

Four years ago, I wanted a GM car badly. Two years and three months ago, I bought one. Last year, I wanted to work for GM as an engineer. Since then. their recent decisions, including but not limited to the cutting of the Zeta architecture (the Firebird/Camaro replacement) and the excessive and shameless rebadging of vehicles in their whole line (more so than any other company. most recently: Solstice/SKY/Opel GT; ION/Cobalt) I think I want to boycott GM vehicles (unless I get a free one), and I wonder if others feel the same.

 

[Feldenak]

No.

 

[ElFenix]

yeah that'll get them to hire americans! :roll:

 

[Shyatic]

I have been boycotting American cars for years.

Buy Honda, you are STILL buying American. Most people don't realize that

 

[Kelemvor]

A UAW boycott would be more like it. It's not GMs fault that they have to pay their workers so much money that they can't stay in business. Any company that is forced top ay wages to their employees that are far higher than they should be getting will have trouble staying in business. Good going UAW. Way to force more jobs overseas.

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
A UAW boycott would be more like it. It's not GMs fault that they have to pay their workers so much money that they can't stay in business. Any company that is forced top ay wages to their employees that are far higher than they should be getting will have trouble staying in business. Good going UAW. Way to force more jobs overseas.

:thumbsup:

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
yeah that'll get them to hire americans! :roll:

Exactly...OP, put your thinking cap back on.

 

[MikeMike]

how do you want them to survive?

declaring bankruptcy is the LAST thing they want to do.

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051121/ap_on_bi_ge/gm

GM is cutting all kinds of American jobs. It's worse than the Flint, Mich. layoffs of years ago.

Four years ago, I wanted a GM car badly. Two years and three months ago, I bought one. Last year, I wanted to work for GM as an engineer. Since then. their recent decisions, including but not limited to the cutting of the Zeta architecture (the Firebird/Camaro replacement) and the excessive and shameless rebadging of vehicles in their whole line (more so than any other company. most recently: Solstice/SKY/Opel GT; ION/Cobalt) I think I want to boycott GM vehicles (unless I get a free one), and I wonder if others feel the same.

I already boycott them because they make crappy cars I wouldn't buy a GM product if it were the difference between your life and your death, man!

It's about time they cut off some of these UNION HACKS that have been draining the company dry for all these years. Freaking LEACHES.

Jason

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
A UAW boycott would be more like it. It's not GMs fault that they have to pay their workers so much money that they can't stay in business. Any company that is forced top ay wages to their employees that are far higher than they should be getting will have trouble staying in business. Good going UAW. Way to force more jobs overseas.

What a bunch of crap. Who agreed to the UAW contract? Who decided to design all sorts of sh!tty SUVs and skip the hybrid market? Who is responsible for the company as a whole? Oh, yeah, those MBA asshats we call executives. And who's fault is it that GM's (and everyone else's) health care costs keep going up?

The guys running Toyota and Honda had enough sense to see a lot of this coming and are doing a lot better, not too mention that in Japan, the taxpayer/worker/consumer foots the bill for healthcare, not the company.

Sure, the UAW could make some concessions, but the bottom line is the GM's management sucks bigtime and the stockholders should sh!tcan every last one of them.

 

[ondarkness]

Originally posted by: Scribe
I have been boycotting American cars for years.

Buy Honda, you are STILL buying American. Most people don't realize that

explain

 

[Accipiter22]

Originally posted by: ondarkness

Originally posted by: Scribe
I have been boycotting American cars for years.

Buy Honda, you are STILL buying American. Most people don't realize that

explain

where do you think the platns are? Most of them are in America now, it's just that the headquarters are elsewhere.


Also, thumbs up to the UAW boycott, those bastards are killing detroit

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: ondarkness

Originally posted by: Scribe
I have been boycotting American cars for years.

Buy Honda, you are STILL buying American. Most people don't realize that

explain

This is all from memory and might be totally off.
Honda has a factory in Ohio and maybe another elsewhere.
Hundyai has a factory in Alabama.
Toyota has a factory in Kentucky.
Mitsubishi has a factory in Illinois.
Nissan has a factory in Tennesee.
BMW has a factory in South Carolina.
Subaru has a factory in Indiana.

Not all Japanese cars sold here are made here, but many are.

 

[Chrono]

UAW sucks ass. GM sucks ass too.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: EatSpam
What a bunch of crap. Who agreed to the UAW contract? Who decided to design all sorts of sh!tty SUVs and skip the hybrid market? Who is responsible for the company as a whole? Oh, yeah, those MBA asshats we call executives. And who's fault is it that GM's (and everyone else's) health care costs keep going up?

The guys running Toyota and Honda had enough sense to see a lot of this coming and are doing a lot better, not too mention that in Japan, the taxpayer/worker/consumer foots the bill for healthcare, not the company.

actually the SUVs are quite profitable for GM. likely hybrids wouldn't be so (are toyota and honda still selling them at a loss?)

 

[AmdEmAll]

Originally posted by: ondarkness

Originally posted by: Scribe
I have been boycotting American cars for years.

Buy Honda, you are STILL buying American. Most people don't realize that

explain

I think they are saying that many Hondas are manufactured in the USA, compared to many GM products which are made in Canada and Mexico.

I don't know of any cars that are really "american". Most have parts from all over the world.

 

[PingSpike]

I don't see how boycotting them would help. I will give them another look if and when they get a reputation for good reliability, or maybe start offering a crazy good warrentee.

But the boycott is the only true power the consumer has.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: AmdEmAll
I think they are saying that many Hondas are manufactured in the USA, compared to many GM products which are made in Canada and Mexico.

I don't know of any cars that are really "american". Most have parts from all over the world.

iirc, this sense that gm makes many of its cars in mexico is false.

not to mention i wonder where the parts are made.

Originally posted by: PingSpike
I don't see how boycotting them would help. I will give them another look if and when they get a reputation for good reliability, or maybe start offering a crazy good warrentee.

But the boycott is the only true power the consumer has.

they do have good reliability according to the last several years of JD power polls

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
A UAW boycott would be more like it. It's not GMs fault that they have to pay their workers so much money that they can't stay in business. Any company that is forced top ay wages to their employees that are far higher than they should be getting will have trouble staying in business. Good going UAW. Way to force more jobs overseas.

:thumbsup:

I spot two idiots in this thread. The Management agreed to the UAW's contract. Boycotting will not help the slightest bit though.
Chrysler is doing just fine with their UAW workers.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: EatSpam
What a bunch of crap. Who agreed to the UAW contract? Who decided to design all sorts of sh!tty SUVs and skip the hybrid market? Who is responsible for the company as a whole? Oh, yeah, those MBA asshats we call executives. And who's fault is it that GM's (and everyone else's) health care costs keep going up?

The guys running Toyota and Honda had enough sense to see a lot of this coming and are doing a lot better, not too mention that in Japan, the taxpayer/worker/consumer foots the bill for healthcare, not the company.

actually the SUVs are quite profitable for GM. likely hybrids wouldn't be so (are toyota and honda still selling them at a loss?)

Were profitable. They aren't selling well at all anymore. Toyota can't keep the Prius on the lot.

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: AmdEmAll

Originally posted by: ondarkness

Originally posted by: Scribe
I have been boycotting American cars for years.

Buy Honda, you are STILL buying American. Most people don't realize that

explain

I think they are saying that many Hondas are manufactured in the USA, compared to many GM products which are made in Canada and Mexico.

I don't know of any cars that are really "american". Most have parts from all over the world.

Most people here seem to ignore the fact that Toyota also has plants in Mexico and Canada too. Why don't they get grilled for this like GM does?

 

[BD2003]

They HAVE to cut the jobs, otherwise they go out of business. Boycott them if you wish, they make POS cars anyway.

And while most japanese cars are made in america, they are *designed* in japan, and the japanese design is apparently superior.

 

[AmdEmAll]

Anyone know of a map that shows where all the plants are for different auto manufactures. That would be pretty cool. I remember seeing one a while ago of mexico and I know GM and Ford had plants there, don't remember the others.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: ondarkness

Originally posted by: Scribe
I have been boycotting American cars for years.

Buy Honda, you are STILL buying American. Most people don't realize that

explain

This is all from memory and might be totally off.
Honda has a factory in Ohio and maybe another elsewhere.
Hundyai has a factory in Alabama.
Toyota has a factory in Kentucky.
Mitsubishi has a factory in Illinois.
Nissan has a factory in Tennesee.
BMW has a factory in South Carolina.
Subaru has a factory in Indiana.

Not all Japanese cars sold here are made here, but many are.

Mercedes also has a plant in Alabama.

 

[Ameesh]

its the fvcking ridiculous auto workers union that should be boycotted, bunch of lazy ass dimwits strong arming an entire industry into the sh!tter. UAW and their kin are runing american autos not GM.