Global Warming Poll (2010)

[Linflas]

The geologist in me puts me squarely in camp 4.

 

[jonks]

ah christ this is sad

 

[69Mach1]

May I suggest a Camp 7:

I don't really care about the politics nor whether GW is man-made or not. What I do care about is that I become more responsible and a better steward of the limited resources of this earth. I believe I should use what resources I have to the absolute fullest, that I should re-use and recycle as much as possible, and I should minimize waste as much as possible. I believe that I should strive to have a more sustainable lifestyle that is more healthy for myself, my family, my children, and my neighbor's children. I also believe that the search for renewable, domestically-produced energy sources will also have a positive impact on our trade imbalance, GDP, employment rate, and our national security as less money will go to terrorist-sponsoring nations.

I'd go with this choice, if it was available.

 

[0roo0roo]

course that is also bs that doesn't consider that its a world market. if we don't buy oil they'll have a dozen buyers lined up where we were unless new technology is developed that actually beats oil it is just a joke to pretend that with an ever rising population oil wont sell as ever

 

[TehMac]

ah christ this is sad

What is sad is that so many people fall for hysteria without actually realizing that there's a lot of freemoney to be had from profiteering off the whole affair.

 

[JDub02]

both 4 and 5.

climate change is a real thing. the earth goes through cycles of warmer and colder weather. people have little to no impact on those cycles. the idea of man-made global warming or climate change is a giant political and economic scam. politicians are seizing power and companies are raking in profits over being "green" ... see GE and their stupid CFL lightbulbs.

 

[0roo0roo]

What is sad is that so many people fall for hysteria without actually realizing that there's a lot of freemoney to be had from profiteering off the whole affair.

esp government money..

 

[jonks]

both 4 and 5.

climate change is a real thing. the earth goes through cycles of warmer and colder weather. people have little to no impact on those cycles. the idea of man-made global warming or climate change is a giant political and economic scam. politicians are seizing power and companies are raking in profits over being "green" ... see GE and their stupid CFL lightbulbs.

yes, rich evil scientists have been lying and plotting for decades to bring this about. mwahahaha!

the hubris to think that mankind's heavy industrialization could possibly effect the planet's ecosphere? nonsense!


christ, even the Bush admin in 2002 admitted recent climate change is likely man made. Catch up, will ya?

 

[SlitheryDee]

It's real. It doesn't matter whether it's man-made. It doesn't matter whether it's part of a natural cycle. Rapid climate change will upset quite a few applecarts, but I don't know that it will wipe out the species.

I do know that the climate is relatively conducive to our survival right now. I wouldn't think we would want it to change from a known safe state to an unknown, possibly unsafe one. If we recognize that the climate is changing, I think we should try to stop it if we can. It may very well be a natural cycle. Our extinction may very well be the natural result...or nothing could happen at all. I really don't know.

 

[FoBoT]

scientists are biased, like all humans
scientists don't get paid by magical non-biased fairies with large pots of 'politically immune' gold

everybody has an agenda, usually driven by money/greed/what is best for them
scientists are out to make a buck like everybody else

 

[ElFenix]

where is 'i have no idea because it seems to me the 'scientists' studying this cook their books worse than enron, but green stuff is a noble goal anyway and worth pursuing'

 

[TehMac]

christ, even the Bush admin in 2002 admitted recent climate change is likely man made. Catch up, will ya?

That's weird, I don't recall when Bush became the official spokesperson for the world's climate, but I'm sure you will enlighten me.


Thanks.

 

[FoBoT]

That's weird, I don't recall when Bush became the official spokesperson for the world's climate, but I'm sure you will enlighten me.


Thanks.

you didn't get the memo, all sheeple either follow BUSH or OBAMA , no one may have independent thoughts or ideas, everyone must be on one team or the other so that all issues can be made out as "US versus THEM"

 

[jonks]

That's weird, I don't recall when Bush became the official spokesperson for the world's climate, but I'm sure you will enlighten me.


Thanks.

I was merely pointing out the essential political consensus on the issue, if not on the solutions.

If you want spokespersons for the world's climate, one could look at every accredited scientific organization that has studied the issue and see the same conclusion. Of course they're all on the take, right?

scientists are biased, like all humans
scientists don't get paid by magical non-biased fairies with large pots of 'politically immune' gold

everybody has an agenda, usually driven by money/greed/what is best for them
scientists are out to make a buck like everybody else

When 99% of the world's scientists who studied the issue determined smoking caused cancer, even though a very small subset funded by tobacco companies argued and disputed these findings, did you doubt the community consensus because scientists also have salaries??

 

[Drako]

Camp 4 for me.

 

[Blackjack200]

I hope everyone in this thread that chooses to ignore scientists when it comes to global warming also ignore scientists when it comes to MMR vaccines for their kids. It's all a big conspiracy, listen to Jenny McCarthy, she knows what's best.

 

[Linflas]

I hope everyone in this thread that chooses to ignore scientists when it comes to global warming also ignore scientists when it comes to MMR vaccines for their kids. It's all a big conspiracy, listen to Jenny McCarthy, she knows what's best.

Funny the only people I see ignoring scientists are the ones worshipping in the Church of Man Made Climate Change. The zealots have even tried to stop peer reviewed studies that contradict their theories from being published.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

I thought about putting some more topics on the poll about some other things that the scientific community seems to agree on, but there are some vocal skeptics, but I felt like I'd be taking away from this specific issue and causing a lot of arguments if I put it in.

Plus the poll making options on vBulletin suck

 

[Locut0s]

Thanks for the creds YOYO!. I haven't changed my optinion since posting the OP(op). Still firmly Camp 2.

 

[IGBT]

looks like the gloom and doom alarmists are agenda driven and quiet happy to live in a universe of lies and fraud. goodluck to ya, camp 1+2 dwellers.

 

[Blackjack200]

looks like the gloom and doom alarmists are agenda driven and quiet happy to live in a universe of lies and fraud. goodluck to ya, camp 1+2 dwellers.

Well, most of us do live in The United States of America.

I do get jealous of the Fox News viewers who are positive and helpful, not agenda driven, and quite happy to live in a universe of truth and fairness.

 

[SunSamurai]

Scientists can't predict the exact motion of a single atom, therefore they can't predict the motion of a tennis ball falling in a vacuum.

/faulty logic

You fail to differentiate between the words 'predict' and 'prove'.

/faulty logic

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

You fail to differentiate between the words 'predict' and 'prove'.

/faulty logic

The post I was responding to said nothing about prove

and it makes no sense to prove something in the future anyway, that's what a prediction is.

 

[AstroManLuca]

There really isn't a good option for me. 3 seems closest, but I'm also undecided on whether it's caused by humans or not. More likely a combination of multiple factors at once. But basically I think it's a real, measurable effect, we just don't know very much about it at all (neither the cause nor the future effects).

EDIT:

where is 'i have no idea because it seems to me the 'scientists' studying this cook their books worse than enron, but green stuff is a noble goal anyway and worth pursuing'

Well, it is extremely sucky that some scientists out there forged results, but I think that one situation has been blown out of proportion by climate change doubters. But I do understand the lack of trust and I also completely agree on the idea of protecting the environment for the environment's sake.

 

[lothar]

Camp 4.