Give this guy a medal

5150Joker

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A US official (may not have diplomatic immunity) was being chased down by a couple of armed robbers (or possibly terrorists) and decided that instead of being kidnapped or killed, he'd take them out and he did with his Beretta. He's being held by Pakistani police right now and they're investigating what happened to determine if he'll be charged or not. Personally, I don't see any charges being brought against him for self defense and if there are any brought against him, the US should make sure they don't stick and he's given a free ride back home. I know if I was being chased by a couple of armed guys on a motorcycle in a foreign country, I'd have done the same.

Story: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110128/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan

This is his car:
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Dead dude's stains:
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trenchfoot

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Methinks this US offical is more than just "a US official". Takes a whole lot of training and experience to trade gunfire at close range and actually hit your target(s).
 

The Green Bean

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Diplomats are NOT allowed to carry weapons. To the very least he should be charged with illegal carrying of firearms. Too bad the Pakistan leadership is nothing more than American slaves and one phone call from some unknown senator will be enough for the diplomat to be pardoned.

What would happen if a Pakistan diplomat killed two American thugs in LA?
 

Red Dawn

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Diplomats are NOT allowed to carry weapons. To the very least he should be charged with illegal carrying of firearms. Too bad the Pakistan leadership is nothing more than American slaves and one phone call from some unknown senator will be enough for the diplomat to be pardoned.

What would happen if a Pakistan diplomat killed two American thugs in LA?

If they were trying to mug him or kill him as in this instance he'd get off scott free.
 

The Green Bean

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If they were trying to mug him or kill him as in this instance he'd get off scott free.

I don't think they were trying to "kill" him. Mugging - far more likely. The diplomat isn't helping his case by saying they were going to kill him.

Edit: things are moving in the right direction as they should. I thought he would get away with it just because he was an American. He has been handed over by the court for a 6day physical remand and has been charged with murder. I hope he is tried under the law and the verdict me given in accordance with Pakistani law. That would really be a triumph for our justice system.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/28/us-official-expected-to-appear-in-court-over-lahore-shooting.html

WTF -
A third Pakistani was crushed to death by a US consulate car that had followed to aid the official following the shooting in a busy street in Lahore.

Even if the person who shot gets away, the reckless driver should not!

I also think this incident will be a HUGE blow to American reputation in Pakistan whether or not the charged is proved to be guilty or not. People here don't like Americans with weapons here and this further damages whatever reputation America had.
 
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Red Dawn

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I don't think they were trying to "kill" him. Mugging - far more likely. The diplomat isn't helping his case by saying they were going to kill him.

Edit: things are moving in the right direction as they should. I thought he would get away with it just because he was an American. He has been handed over by the court for a 6day physical remand and has been charged with murder. I hope he is tried under the law and the verdict me given in accordance with Pakistani law. That would really be a triumph for our justice system.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/28/us-official-expected-to-appear-in-court-over-lahore-shooting.html

WTF -

Even if the person who shot gets away, the reckless driver should not!

I also think this incident will be a HUGE blow to American reputation in Pakistan whether or not the charged is proved to be guilty or not. People here don't like Americans with weapons here and this further damages whatever reputation America had.

Yeah right, he's suppose to be able to tell the difference whether they are jusst going to mug him or kill him when they are chasing him with weapons? And of course this guy is a diplomat, what other reason would an American find himself in the shithole of a country?
 

The Green Bean

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Yeah right, he's suppose to be able to tell the difference whether they are jusst going to mug him or kill him when they are chasing him with weapons? And of course this guy is a diplomat, what other reason would an American find himself in the shithole of a country?

And it's okay to take revenge by running over some random person near the scene?
 

5150Joker

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Diplomats are NOT allowed to carry weapons. To the very least he should be charged with illegal carrying of firearms. Too bad the Pakistan leadership is nothing more than American slaves and one phone call from some unknown senator will be enough for the diplomat to be pardoned.

What would happen if a Pakistan diplomat killed two American thugs in LA?


Dude you're a fucking idiot. Anyone with an iota of common sense would be armed to the teeth when traveling in Pakistan, especially if they are American (and this guy was most likely White which made him an even bigger target). Two guys with guns on a motorcycle pulled up to him, should he have greeted them and asked if they wanted to go have some chai and cookies? Get real moron.
 

Schadenfroh

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Not sure how Pakistani law works, so our expectations might be a bit different. Here he would likely get off if proven they were trying to kill him and maybe even get off if they were just trying to mug him with any kind of weapon. There is a chance that he is alive because he defended himself.

If he killed a bystander in the process, he would likely get involuntary manslaughter, which is not as hefty as murder. But, he would do time.

What would happen if a Pakistan diplomat killed two American thugs in LA?
We would be upset that he did not remove more thugs from the streets.

However, residents in LA might riot, burn their own neighborhoods down and then lawmakers would try to ban assault rifles citing the incident as a reason for reform (even if only pistols were involved).
 

The Green Bean

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Dude you're a fucking idiot. Anyone with an iota of common sense would be armed to the teeth when traveling in Pakistan, especially if they are American (and this guy was most likely White which made him an even bigger target). Two guys with guns on a motorcycle pulled up to him, should he have greeted them and asked if they wanted to go have some chai and cookies? Get real moron.

Let's wait for the courts decision and see what really happened. If they were armed robbers, the American will probably get away with it. I'm not too sure about the other Americans who ran over a bystander. That's disgusting and really shows racial hatred. Thugs and muggings are increasing a problem here and I strongly believe that killing armed muggers is a right thing to do. Usually, they let the victim go once they take all their money. If you read the report though, the American withdrew some cash from an ATM machine and that's what the alleged thugs were after. For sure, I would be too fucking scared to assault someone with a gun... but then again I'm not trained. It's probably the same for 90% of posters here. But makes me wonder why a technician would be armed and would have the training to kill. He was definitely more than just a technician.

And obviously Muslim hatred sells in USA and that's why your media keeps trying to show what a "shithole" we are. So fuck you.
 

DesiPower

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Diplomats are NOT allowed to carry weapons. To the very least he should be charged with illegal carrying of firearms. Too bad the Pakistan leadership is nothing more than American slaves and one phone call from some unknown senator will be enough for the diplomat to be pardoned.

What would happen if a Pakistan diplomat killed two American thugs in LA?

Same thing, here they probably wont even go to jail...
 

DesiPower

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I don't think they were trying to "kill" him. Mugging - far more likely. The diplomat isn't helping his case by saying they were going to kill him.

Edit: things are moving in the right direction as they should. I thought he would get away with it just because he was an American. He has been handed over by the court for a 6day physical remand and has been charged with murder. I hope he is tried under the law and the verdict me given in accordance with Pakistani law. That would really be a triumph for our justice system.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/28/us-official-expected-to-appear-in-court-over-lahore-shooting.html

WTF -

Even if the person who shot gets away, the reckless driver should not!

I also think this incident will be a HUGE blow to American reputation in Pakistan whether or not the charged is proved to be guilty or not. People here don't like Americans with weapons here and this further damages whatever reputation America had.

You ungrateful people, living on US money and then cursing US, have you no shame?
 

yllus

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I'm sure he'll be taken care of and will be sent home to America soon. Also, sort of doubt he was a diplomat.
 

CPA

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I don't think they were trying to "kill" him. Mugging - far more likely. The diplomat isn't helping his case by saying they were going to kill him.

Edit: things are moving in the right direction as they should. I thought he would get away with it just because he was an American. He has been handed over by the court for a 6day physical remand and has been charged with murder. I hope he is tried under the law and the verdict me given in accordance with Pakistani law. That would really be a triumph for our justice system.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/28/us-official-expected-to-appear-in-court-over-lahore-shooting.html

WTF -

Even if the person who shot gets away, the reckless driver should not!

I also think this incident will be a HUGE blow to American reputation in Pakistan whether or not the charged is proved to be guilty or not. People here don't like Americans with weapons here and this further damages whatever reputation America had.

Are you a moron? wait, nevermind, I already have the answer.
 

DesiPower

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Let's wait for the courts decision and see what really happened. If they were armed robbers, the American will probably get away with it. I'm not too sure about the other Americans who ran over a bystander. That's disgusting and really shows racial hatred. Thugs and muggings are increasing a problem here and I strongly believe that killing armed muggers is a right thing to do. Usually, they let the victim go once they take all their money. If you read the report though, the American withdrew some cash from an ATM machine and that's what the alleged thugs were after. For sure, I would be too fucking scared to assault someone with a gun... but then again I'm not trained. It's probably the same for 90% of posters here. But makes me wonder why a technician would be armed and would have the training to kill. He was definitely more than just a technician.

And obviously Muslim hatred sells in USA and that's why your media keeps trying to show what a "shithole" we are. So fuck you.

Why are you so pissed off at the death of 3 people? are you worried that your country lost 3 potential jihadis? dude your country is filled with 200 million people I am sure more than 50 million of then have an IQ of below 80 and are totally coarsed by the madrasas and whatever the fvck ever they study. There is a huge pool of people just waiting to die for your god... stop worrying about just 3 of them and think about how you can send your support to those organizations that don't have spines and attack people in neighboring countries and dont even have the balls to admit who they really are...
 

K1052

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And obviously Muslim hatred sells in USA and that's why your media keeps trying to show what a "shithole" we are. So fuck you.

I'd say the country sucks for other reasons than religion. Tribalism, archaic and brutal traditions, political strife (assassinations, bombings, etc of public officials), enormous corruption, etc...
 

The Green Bean

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Why are you so pissed off at the death of 3 people? are you worried that your country lost 3 potential jihadis? dude your country is filled with 200 million people I am sure more than 50 million of then have an IQ of below 80 and are totally coarsed by the madrasas and whatever the fvck ever they study. There is a huge pool of people just waiting to die for your god... stop worrying about just 3 of them and think about how you can send your support to those organizations that don't have spines and attack people in neighboring countries and dont even have the balls to admit who they really are...

Those jihadis think just like you.... to them death is a statistic. And don't expect another reply. I don't reply to idiots.
 

The Green Bean

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I'd say the country sucks for other reasons than religion. Tribalism, archaic and brutal traditions, political strife (assassinations, bombings, etc of public officials), enormous corruption, etc...

Fair enough. But those tribal traditions are limited to the rural areas. The political situation is fucked up but it's still blown way out of proportion by the local media and in turn by the international community. The media are liars and will go to just about any lengths to sell a story. They're just like Fox... except worse. But everyone predicted this was to happen. You can force "democracy" on every country. Also, I think incompetence is a much bigger problem than corruption. It's almost like all politicians here have an IQ even less than what Bush had.
 

DesiPower

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Fair enough. But those tribal traditions are limited to the rural areas. The political situation is fucked up but it's still blown way out of proportion by the local media and in turn by the international community. The media are liars and will go to just about any lengths to sell a story. They're just like Fox... except worse. But everyone predicted this was to happen. You can force "democracy" on every country. Also, I think incompetence is a much bigger problem than corruption. It's almost like all politicians here have an IQ even less than what Bush had.

US did not push democracy on Pakistan, your leaders choose it out of their own free will. Stop blaming other people for your won failures. India started with the same stuff and just look at the difference now. Its a matter of thinking, its a matter of perspective, its a matter of letting your minds grow as compared to punishing people who want to think outside the box.
Look at all the Arab nations today, their younger generation, got exposed to freedom of ideas through internet and now that they can think better, they too want democracy.
 
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tk149

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I don't think they were trying to "kill" him. Mugging - far more likely. The diplomat isn't helping his case by saying they were going to kill him.

Edit: things are moving in the right direction as they should. I thought he would get away with it just because he was an American. He has been handed over by the court for a 6day physical remand and has been charged with murder. I hope he is tried under the law and the verdict me given in accordance with Pakistani law. That would really be a triumph for our justice system.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/28/us-official-expected-to-appear-in-court-over-lahore-shooting.html

WTF -

Even if the person who shot gets away, the reckless driver should not!

I also think this incident will be a HUGE blow to American reputation in Pakistan whether or not the charged is proved to be guilty or not. People here don't like Americans with weapons here and this further damages whatever reputation America had.

You have condemned him before trial. You do not seek justice, you seek vindication of your views.

If a Pakistani shot and killed two armed muggers, would you be so sure of his guilt?