Give me some arguments why homosexuality is wrong and should be declared illegal.

[Zorkorist]

The expression of love is being limited. So I would like to limit marriage, as it is an expression of love.

All marriage.

Now what are you going to tell me? It's a (God Blessed) animal instinct (for a man and a woman) to love and marry and fuck their brains out?

-John

 

[Retro Rob]

The expression of love is being limited. So I would like to limit marriage, as it is an expression of love.

All marriage.

Now what are you going to tell me? It's a (God Blessed) animal instinct (for a man and a woman) to love and marry and fuck their brains out?

-John

I actually love this rationale..."if 1 percent of the population can't do X, then 99 percent of the population shouldn't be allowed to do it either".

People often complain about the oppression of the minority by the majority, but are a-OK with the oppression of the majority by the minority when they can't get what they want...and actually look you in the face and say what you're saying.

 

[Zorkorist]

Dude. America is founded on the rights of the individual. His right to free speech, religion, etc.

We (used to) limit Government, and have tried to minimize the impact of Religion, on Government.

You should be shouting out loud and exalting your freedom.

You should be enjoying everyday.

Rather than worrying about Gays marrying.

-John

 

[Moonbeam]

I actually love this rationale..."if 1 percent of the population can't do X, then 99 percent of the population shouldn't be allowed to do it either".

People often complain about the oppression of the minority by the majority, but are a-OK with the oppression of the majority by the minority when they can't get what they want...and actually look you in the face and say what you're saying.

I like it too. It's exactly what I say about murder.

 

[MagickMan]

You need a scientific reason?

How about Ovaries release hormones in the body that create a sex drive. That prior to ovulation that women have more hormones and therefore increase their need to have sex.

Really what's odd is when people who support homosexuality think that the only thing indicating it's wrong is religion when honestly human history/evolution/biology is the greater factor.

It goes against nature to have men attracted to men and women attracted to women. There is no scientific basis behind it. In fact, billions of years of evolution indicates we should have none of it left in existence.

Large, dense populations make homosexuality more prevalent, nature's way of telling us to slow down reproduction.

 

[dank69]

Whenever it is said "it's been observed in nature", then nature becomes fair game, no matter the context.

There are perhaps a gazillion things we observe in nature that we would be repulsed by. Not sure why "homosexuality" is the exception.

However I do understand the innate desire to find justification for our actions to quell the prodding of our conscious.



FWIW, while I believe Heaven exists, I'm not going there...nor do I want to.

Since you still don't get it, why don't you simply tell me if you believe the following statement is true:

SSM should be illegal because homosexuality is not natural.

 

[schmuckley]

Why are we talking about what nature says?

If we listen to what nature says, then I should be able to freely fuck little boys, little girls, a raccoon, my dog, a transexual, and penguins - are all of those socially acceptable? Can I get married to those, too?


Your nature argument is invalid unless you agree to everything I just said.

^This is why it should be illegal and is wrong.Just because you CAN have sex with someone/thing other than the opposite sex of your own species does not mean you should.

 

[Exophase]

It's amazing how many people are running with this straw man argument no one was ever making...

 

[dank69]

It's amazing how many people are running with this straw man argument no one was ever making...

Well, you have to be stupid to have a problem with homosexuality in the first place, so it just follows that they can't make a rational argument to support their position.

 

[jackstar7]

Sees it in nature. Declares it unnatural.

"What a piece of work is a man! How noble in reason, how infinite in faculty! In form and moving how express and admirable! In action how like an Angel! in apprehension how like a god!"

 

[Abwx]

Well, you have to be stupid to have a problem with homosexuality in the first place, so it just follows that they can't make a rational argument to support their position.

The problem is not homosexuality and homosexuals but that a group of individuals is asking rights, being recognized as families, based on their sexuality, in the same vein a farmer that have sex only with his pigs could as well ask for the same right, why not after all..?.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

The problem is not homosexuality and homosexuals but that a group of individuals is asking rights, being recognized as families, based on their sexuality, in the same vein a farmer that have sex only with his pigs could as well ask for the same right, why not after all..?.

Have you ever stopped to consider that the farmer and pig might make an excellent family? Bigot.

 

[Abwx]

Have you ever stopped to consider that the farmer and pig might make an excellent family? Bigot.

Dont know but what is sure is that assimilating homosexuals living together as families imply that from now having sex with someone is what define a family.

 

[dank69]

The problem is not homosexuality and homosexuals but that a group of individuals is asking rights, being recognized as families, based on their sexuality, in the same vein a farmer that have sex only with his pigs could as well ask for the same right, why not after all..?.

So homosexuals aren't actually people, they are animals?

 

[Retro Rob]

The problem is not homosexuality and homosexuals but that a group of individuals is asking rights, being recognized as families, based on their sexuality, in the same vein a farmer that have sex only with his pigs could as well ask for the same right, why not after all..?.

Of course they're supposed to ask for rights because we live in a country in which the Government protects everybody...not just people of a particular sexual orientation, or a particular religion.

This is reason why you have rights as well, and have the right to demand rights.

You ought to remember that you can demand rights for the exact same reason gays and lesbians can. You take that away, and you can kiss yours goodbye.

 

[Abwx]

So homosexuals aren't actually people, they are animals?

Nice straw...

What you didnt understand is that this minority forced a majority to reconsider the legal concept of mariage, and that this concept is no more based on the will of two people to have children and raise them, wich imply a man and a woman, but on a sexual relation.

So if sexuality is what define mariage then anybody can marry his pets provided he has sexual relations with them, why grant this right only to homosexuals.?.

And following the same logic we could legalize mariage between sisters and brothers and between brothers and brothers, this latter case shouldnt present any consanguinity risk given that the union is, well , sterile by nature.

 

[soulcougher73]

Of course they're supposed to ask for rights because we live in a country in which the Government protects everybody...not just people of a particular sexual orientation, or a particular religion.

This is reason why you have rights as well, and have the right to demand rights.

You ought to remember that you can demand rights for the exact same reason gays and lesbians can. You take that away, and you can kiss yours goodbye.

Rob? Someone hack your account?

 

[dank69]

Nice straw...

What you didnt understand is that this minority forced a majority to reconsider the legal concept of mariage, and that this concept is no more based on the will of two people to have children and raise them, wich imply a man and a woman, but on a sexual relation.

So if sexuality is what define mariage then anybody can marry his pets provided he has sexual relations with them, why grant this right only to homosexuals.?.

And following the same logic we could legalize mariage between sisters and brothers and between brothers and brothers, this latter case shouldnt present any consanguinity risk given that the union is, well , sterile by nature.

Who says marriage is based on the will of two people to have children?

 

[brycejones]

Despite what some individuals are trying to argue here. There are ZERO legitimate arguments for making homosexuality illegal. Some folks need to learn how to butt out of the sexual lives of consenting adults.

 

[sandorski]

Despite what some individuals are trying to argue here. There are ZERO legitimate arguments for making homosexuality illegal. Some folks need to learn how to butt out of the sexual lives of consenting adults.

Dude, there will never be a Baby again!!!

 

[Sunburn74]

Despite what some individuals are trying to argue here. There are ZERO legitimate arguments for making homosexuality illegal. Some folks need to learn how to butt out of the sexual lives of consenting adults.

I honestly don't know what all the fuss is about and have never understood it. If two people want to be together, as long as they're not hurting anyone, why do I care? There's a lot better things I could be doing with my time than trying to regulate what goes in private bedrooms.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

What you didnt understand is that this minority forced a majority to reconsider the legal concept of mariage, and that this concept is no more based on the will of two people to have children and raise them, wich imply a man and a woman, but on a sexual relation.

OK, my last response to you was tongue in cheek, and I apologize for treating you as though you weren't worth a serious discussion. That was wrong of me. So let's hash this out. If the concept of marriage is based around two people having and raising children, would you support gay marriage if that couple happened to have children and wanted to raise them together? Gay people can have children and they can adopt children, so gay couples already raise children now. If a gay couple has children, should they be allowed to get married, since, as you claim, the point of marriage is children?

And, if gay people can't get married despite raising children, are you in favor of invalidating any heterosexual marriage which doesn't produce children? Shall we not offer marriage licenses to infertile heterosexual couples who have literally zero percent chance of conceiving a child and no interest in adopting one? If you want to make the claim that marriage is for the children, then you have to go all the way; gay parents should be allowed to marry and straight non-parents should not. Do you agree with that definition of marriage?

 

[compuwiz1]

As a Christian, my law of acceptance is the Bible. Doesn't mean I can't deviate, as man is not perfect, in fact, we are all sinners.

From a medical stand point, I'd like to know if there is a gene that determines one's hetero / homo sexuality.

Seems I have read that people who have sex reassignment surgery are never complete and have an exorbitantly high suicide rate. Can anyone confirm this, or is it a myth?

So, for being illegal; I just don't see it, from a legal standpoint. Your beliefs and my beliefs guide us to what is right and proper, though they may differ.

 

[Exophase]

Seems I have read that people who have sex reassignment surgery are never complete and have an exorbitantly high suicide rate. Can anyone confirm this, or is it a myth?

Sex, gender and sexual orientation are totally different things. Transgenderism has nothing to do with homosexuality. Most gays and lesbians are comfortable with their sex.

Transsexuals (those who have undergone sexual reassignment surgery) are much more likely to commit suicide than the average person, but that's not necessarily because of the surgery. Transgender and transsexuals are both much more likely to be subject to rejection by family and friends, discrimination, and violence. As usual, correlation does not imply causation.

http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.e...transgender-and-gender-non-conforming-adults/

 

[sandorski]

As a Christian, my law of acceptance is the Bible. Doesn't mean I can't deviate, as man is not perfect, in fact, we are all sinners.

From a medical stand point, I'd like to know if there is a gene that determines one's hetero / homo sexuality.

Seems I have read that people who have sex reassignment surgery are never complete and have an exorbitantly high suicide rate. Can anyone confirm this, or is it a myth?

So, for being illegal; I just don't see it, from a legal standpoint. Your beliefs and my beliefs guide us to what is right and proper, though they may differ.

Not sure if it's true, but if it is I'm not sure what meaning that statistic has. Clearly anyone in that position starts from a position of high stress to begin. Add in that they need to take Hormones and Surgeries which both cause significant changes to a persons sense of self, it seems reasonable to me that the transition period is just another level of stress. Add in how to deal with Family/Friends who have questionable levels of support or even opposition and the stress increases even more. Then you gotta find a future person to fall in love and what not, it makes such a change a constant source of stress.