Give me some arguments why homosexuality is wrong and should be declared illegal.

[inf1nity]

Okay so based on what I know about homosexuality, I do not consider it a wrong thing. I feel that same-sex marriages should be allowed.

However I realize that there are many people who think differently. I respect the fact that people have differing opinions, and see it as a good thing. I would like to invite such people to present their views and change mine, if possible.

Here's a catch, however. The arguments made against homosexuality and same sex marriage must be scientific and non-religious in nature. Therefore, please do not make arguments like "The bible considers it a sin".

Start.

 

[inf1nity]

For starters, here's an article that I found

http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=if04g01

 

[TheVrolok]

No, this will definitely go well.

 

[Subyman]

None. Dumb topic.

 

[compuwiz1]

The bible says two men ought not lay down together. I think the institution of marriage is sacred and should remain between a man and a woman. That said, I am in favor of civil unions between people of the same sex so they are not discriminated against when it comes to benefits, such as those available to married men and women couples. It's my perogative to not agree with homosexuality. I'm not going to advocate against it, just go about your business and don't be in my face about it.

 

[Tweak155]

How can you have a non religious talk about marriage? That sounds contradictory.

 

[soulcougher73]

How can you have a non religious talk about marriage? That sounds contradictory.

Only religious people think that way. I'm atheist and got married without religion at all. No mention of God, no church etc

 

[compuwiz1]

Only religious people think that way. I'm atheist and got married without religion at all. No mention of God, no church etc

Good for you...whatever floats your personal boat. I have my values and you have yours, which is fine, as long as you don't force me to believe and do what you do.

 

[inf1nity]

How can you have a non religious talk about marriage? That sounds contradictory.

Why not? According to Wikipedia,

Marriage (also called matrimony or wedlock) is a socially or ritually recognized union or legal contract...

Religion isn't mentioned.

 

[dphantom]

How can you have a non religious talk about marriage? That sounds contradictory.

A likely discussion point avoiding religious "talk" is in relation to survival of the species. If we argue that specie survival is paramount, then anything that interferes with that process would be immoral and could possibly be legislated.

 

[inf1nity]

The bible says two men ought not lay down together. I think the institution of marriage is sacred and should remain between a man and a woman. That said, I am in favor of civil unions between people of the same sex so they are not discriminated against when it comes to benefits, such as those available to married men and women couples. It's my perogative to not agree with homosexuality. I'm not going to advocate against it, just go about your business and don't be in my face about it.

Interesting perspective. Please explain what you mean by "marriage is sacred"?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

There are no arguments that can show it's wrong or support making gay marriage illegal.

/thread

 

[Smoblikat]

Why is it wrong? Because it goes against everything nature intended, physically it shouldn't happen.

Should it be illegal? No, I dont care what you do on your own time. As long as your decisions dont affect me, I dont care about them. I just think being gay is stupid and would never want to be with someone of the same sex.

 

[vampirefo]

Dumb topic, none the less science says same sex people can't reproduce, prove science wrong and then marry away.

 

[brandonb]

You need a scientific reason?

How about Ovaries release hormones in the body that create a sex drive. That prior to ovulation that women have more hormones and therefore increase their need to have sex.

Really what's odd is when people who support homosexuality think that the only thing indicating it's wrong is religion when honestly human history/evolution/biology is the greater factor.

It goes against nature to have men attracted to men and women attracted to women. There is no scientific basis behind it. In fact, billions of years of evolution indicates we should have none of it left in existence.

 

[soulcougher73]

Why is it wrong? Because it goes against everything nature intended, physically it shouldn't happen.

Should it be illegal? No, I dont care what you do on your own time. As long as your decisions dont affect me, I dont care about them. I just think being gay is stupid and would never want to be with someone of the same sex.

You are confusing sex and marriage in your first paragraph I think. Marriage is a man made concept, not nature.

 

[soulcougher73]

Good for you...whatever floats your personal boat. I have my values and you have yours, which is fine, as long as you don't force me to believe and do what you do.

Right and ditto goes for religious sheeple.

 

[Smoblikat]

You are confusing sex and marriage in your first paragraph I think. Marriage is a man made concept, not nature.

Part of marriage IS sex though, if you get married and never have sex its like buying a new car and leaving it at the dealership.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You need a scientific reason?

How about Ovaries release hormones in the body that create a sex drive. That prior to ovulation that women have more hormones and therefore increase their need to have sex.

Really what's odd is when people who support homosexuality think that the only thing indicating it's wrong is religion when honestly human history/evolution/biology is the greater factor.

It goes against nature to have men attracted to men and women attracted to women. There is no scientific basis behind it. In fact, billions of years of evolution indicates we should have none of it left in existence.

You do realize there is copious amounts of homosexual activity beyond just us Homo-sapiens right? Penguins, Lions, Dolphins, Dragon flies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

So your argument about it being 'against nature' falls pretty flat. And to throw your "no scientific basis" behind it, is just doubling down on stupid.

 

[bshole]

Part of marriage IS sex though, if you get married and never have sex its like buying a new car and leaving it at the dealership.

Wouldn't that depend on the attractiveness of the partner? What if your "new" car is a 1976 Pinto?

 

[Smoblikat]

Wouldn't that depend on the attractiveness of the partner? What if your "new" car is a 1976 Pinto?

No it wouldnt. Why would you marry someone you arent attracted to?

Thats my reasoning behind same sex marriage, its not natural for a man to be attracted to another man the way he should be attracted to a woman.
But like I said, I dont give a rats behind what you choose to do. As long as it isnt affecting me, im fine.

 

[brandonb]

You do realize there is copious amounts of homosexual activity beyond just us Homo-sapiens right? Penguins, Lions, Dolphins, Dragon flies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

So your argument about it being 'against nature' falls pretty flat. And to throw your "no scientific basis" behind it, is just doubling down on stupid.

Right. Can we actually conclude these animals are homosexual? Just taking penguin as an example, its said you can't even tell physically a difference between the males and females. So was the male-male penguin interaction based on them seeking out another male or they just didn't know any better? Do these "gay" animals exclusively seek out members of same sex, or would they also try to mate with the opposite sex?

They say dogs are smart, but I've seen dogs try to get it on with a stuffed animal.

Why do I even need to type this? And you call me doubling down on stupid.

 

[brandonb]

Also genius. Where do sex hormones come from? You know the ones that influence your sex drive? Could it be the ovaries in women? What is an ovary? What does an ovary contain? Eggs? What's that? What are those for?

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

The bible says two men ought not lay down together. I think the institution of marriage is sacred and should remain between a man and a woman. That said, I am in favor of civil unions between people of the same sex so they are not discriminated against when it comes to benefits, such as those available to married men and women couples. It's my perogative to not agree with homosexuality. I'm not going to advocate against it, just go about your business and don't be in my face about it.

This.

Go fuck some dudes. Go commit sin. Go do whatever it is on your plate. But ruining the definition of marriage is where the line in the sand is being drawn at the moment. In all honesty, I really don't give a shit outside of that.

 

[Smoblikat]

This.

Go fuck some dudes. Go commit sin. Go do whatever it is on your plate. But ruining the definition of marriage is where the line in the sand is being drawn at the moment. In all honesty, I really don't give a shit outside of that.

Marriage isnt exclusive to Christianity. That religion doesn't get to determine what marriage is just because its fairly prominent in this country. Marriage can be done completely through the state.