Girl dies after getting dental treatment

[Quasmo]

Who names these people? Her name is Diamond? Guess her mom was pissed her parents named her Omelette.

EDIT:

for Diamond

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Sad, but no anesthesia is 100% safe even if administered properly.

Yeah, there's always some risk when they put you under... sad.

I hope this doesn't turn into yet another lawsuit.

Why would you hope that? It may well be that this was a direct result of malpractice. I frankly think that if this was caused by a failure in care, the parents absolutely should sue.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Sad, but no anesthesia is 100% safe even if administered properly.

Yeah, there's always some risk when they put you under... sad.

I hope this doesn't turn into yet another lawsuit.

Why would you hope that? It may well be that this was a direct result of malpractice. I frankly think that if this was caused by a failure in care, the parents absolutely should sue.

Yes, I should have been more specific. If the doctor followed proper procedures, I hope this doesn't result in a lawsuit. Because the cost of medical malpractice suits and the fear of malpractice suits hurts all of us.

Edit: actually I was more specific in my second post in this thread.

Why do you question what I said and not the people who are saying the parents should sue? They don't know if a lawsuit is justified either.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

thousands of people die in freak accidents everyday.

 

[Linflas]

I have always heard that the dentists office is one of the more risky places to go under general anesthesia.

 

[dullard]

No medial work is ever 100% safe. People do die from anesthesia.

When I was ~5 I was put under for dental work. I have fond memories of waking up with the ceiling spinning and spinning all around.

My question to the dentists here: why fill cavities for a 5-year old? The baby teeth will soon fall out. It seems like unnecessary work with unnecessary risks.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

questions:

1) how come a 5 year-old gets cavities and needs a CAP?
2) what's the point in treating these cavities, since she'll lose these "milk teeth" in a year or so?
3) what kind of names are those? Methinks we're talking about poor, uneducated people... which means they might have exposed the child to other substances/risk factors as well, which may explain the fatality....

 

[Cuda1447]

I had a good friend of mine die one year after high school from the same thing. Went to dentist, choked on his own spit while he was put under, fell into a coma. Never woke up.

 

[mugs]

http://www.wgal.com/health/9945102/detail.html

WMAQ reported Monday that the office had no heart monitor or blood pressure cuff, instruments that are required by Illinois law when sedation is involved.

That's one TV station reporting what another TV station reported though, who knows what the original source is.

The mother did say that no monitors were used when the child went under. I don't recall if any monitors were used when I had my wisdom teeth removed.

Very sad.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: andylawcc
when I was a kid (age 8-10 I forgot), I literally kicked and screamed when them dentists tried to clean my teeth with some kind of really nasty tasting chemical. It took a whole team of them to hold me down and the whole procedure took 2 hours. My mom is still embarrassed about the incident. They did not sedate me... maybe they should.

but later on, at age 12, I had a tooth removed; the dentist gave me 2 syringe shots in the gum and that's all he did. Granted, I was still in pain as he yanked the tooth out. (the 2 shots hurted like hell though!)

If it hurts, they didn't use enough.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: dullard
No medial work is ever 100% safe. People do die from anesthesia.

When I was ~5 I was put under for dental work. I have fond memories of waking up with the ceiling spinning and spinning all around.

My question to the dentists here: why fill cavities for a 5-year old? The baby teeth will soon fall out. It seems like unnecessary work with unnecessary risks.

The money sure isn't unnecessary!

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: halik
how does a 5 year old get 2 cavities?

bad parenting.

please. how about maybe some people have bad teeth that are prone to cavities.

the cap thing i dont understand why put caps on a child's tooth that will be falling out very soon. why not just pull it?

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Also keep in mind that everyone reacts differently to drugs. I have an EXTREMELY high tolerance for any medication. The following have 0 effect on me (even at 4x the safe dosage): Advil/Tylenol, Vicodin, Novicaine, and for the most part, Percocet. When I had surgery last year, they had to give me 1x Percocet, 1x Vicodin, and 2x full doses of Morphine to lower the pain to a tolerable level after the anastesia. I'm not sure what doses they had to give to actually get me to go under

 

[jfall]

great, I'm going to an oral surgeon today

 

[pontifex]

sad thing for the girl and family but whats up with the names?

Dimond and Ommettress???

 

[mlm]

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
questions:

1) how come a 5 year-old gets cavities and needs a CAP?
2) what's the point in treating these cavities, since she'll lose these "milk teeth" in a year or so?

1) My parents let me drink Coke before sleeping.
2) I had mine removed/capped at that age, the teeth didn't grow back in and the caps didn't fall out until around 4th or 5th grade.

 

[gasser11]

Originally posted by: Linflas
I have always heard that the dentists office is one of the more risky places to go under general anesthesia.

Giving anyone ANY dose of anesthesia is no simple task and requires the vigilance of a trained anesthesiologist with proper monitoring devices (pulse oximeter - measures oxygen saturation in blood, capnography - measuring carbon dioxide that comes out of patient's mouth so you know they're breathing/exhaling, blood pressure measurements, and EKG leads) and proper resuscitation devices (intubation tubes, masks, etc.)

Fortunately (unfortunately in this case), anesthesia has gotten so safe that it is routinely given in places like dental offices and other medical offices doing cases requiring simple "sedation" with no adverse outcomes at all. Because it's so safe, many doctors will routinely administer anesthesia in an office without an anesthesiologist to cut costs and make patients happy by having them pain-free. Again, this is perfectly safe in 99.9% of the time, but this is one case where things didn't go right.

I may be biased because I'm going into anesthesiology, and I don't want to scare anyone, but be careful about receiving anesthetics without an anesthesiologist...there's a reason we have to train 4 years after med school just to put someone to sleep.

 

[Molondo]

The luxury of sedation..

I had my teeth pulled without any painkillers. It hurt like a bithc

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Sad, but no anesthesia is 100% safe even if administered properly.

Yeah, there's always some risk when they put you under... sad.

I hope this doesn't turn into yet another lawsuit.

This wouldn't be a warrantless suit. :|
Malpractice insurance is required for this very reason.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Hmmm I just read this thread today and tomorrow I'm going in for root canel work to be done :Q

 

[farfignugen]

Originally posted by: Scooby Doo
Hmmm I just read this thread today and tomorrow I'm going in for root canel work to be done :Q

root canals typically dont' require anything beyond local anesthesia. You'll be fine.

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Also keep in mind that everyone reacts differently to drugs. I have an EXTREMELY high tolerance for any medication. The following have 0 effect on me (even at 4x the safe dosage): Advil/Tylenol, Vicodin, Novicaine, and for the most part, Percocet. When I had surgery last year, they had to give me 1x Percocet, 1x Vicodin, and 2x full doses of Morphine to lower the pain to a tolerable level after the anastesia. I'm not sure what doses they had to give to actually get me to go under

A perc and a vic aren't very much actually.

 

[amdhunter]

A couple of things seem wrong here. Why did she need so much sedating? Why cap a tooth that will fall out eventually? And why was the mother asked to leave the room? Was he alone with the girl for the entire time?

I hope that the girl didn't wake up and see the dentist fondling her, and then he decided it was time to put her down. I hope the medical examiner checks the child thoroughly for any foul play.

I guess I am just an untrustful person, but no way in hell would I have left my 5 year old daughter alone with a dentist, or any doctor without supervision. :|

 

[Squisher]

I believe 60 minutes or some such show did a piece on this 10 years ago. The death rate from general anesthesia at dentist's offices is through the roof compared to hospital death rates.

 

[AgentUnknown]

How does a 5 year old get cavities? They all get cavities. That is a fact. I have seen hundreds of patients at 5 yo with cavities.