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Gigabit so near yet so far. Just 35 dollars a month.

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Jumpem said:
Commercial offsite backup? What do you use? I have never liked the idea of putting my data in the cloud. I want to get around to getting a safe deposit box to keep external drives in.
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If I had fast connections in my area I'd stick a home server in my MILs house and mirror the one in my house with it. I'd also use the cloud.
 
With a gig connection provided the upload is gig too, you could host all web services from home, no need to pay for expensive server leasing or webhosting for your websites etc... I know that's what I'd do. I just need to finish building a proper server room first and get the hvac and power setup and all tidyed up and I'd switch my stuff over in a heartbeat. Save over $100/mo. Need more server power? Just build a new server and pay once for it and put it in. Done. With leasing you pay per month for more ram etc... gets expensive fast.

Heck even a 10/10 connection would be enough for most sites/services. I'd be happy with that, even.
 
Funnily enough, nobody has mentioned video conferencing.
Back when internet was starting up, people were predicting the rise of face to face video communication with grandma by the middle of the last decade. Funny how the FCC stifled that real quick with that duopoly policy.

These days, you have to be rich or have good funding to afford just the data line that allows real time video with high enough resolution to be useful. It's not that the technology isn't available or affordable. It's because nobody wants to invite the possibility of a large number of consumers not paying a few hundred for the sports channels or pay per view.

Teaching the general public that there is no reason to have high speed internet because what they want is available ONLY from their cable/satellite/etc. provider was a major accomplishment for the companies with exclusive contracts with your city to provide you with your physical data line.
 
More is better when it comes to internet speed. If you're a family with multiple computers/internet connected devices, then it's really quite trivial to max out a typical 15 to 25mbps connection. Even more so if there is any upload (or "cloud sync") happening. Most residential internet connections don't have a very high upload speed, even 25 megabit connections typically have an upload rate of 1 to 3mbps.

Fiber optic connections tend to have high upload speeds, usually comparable to the download rate. That alone is worth something, not to mention the very high theoretical rates. Just look how much internet has changed since the dialup days, and that wasn't even a very long time ago. It will clearly continue developing, and so the bandwidth and speed requirements for seemingly common/trivial tasks will continue to grow as well.
 
Red Squirrel said:
Damn, that's awesome!

There are some unconfirmed rumors we might be getting fiber here, but they are all but rumors. I can't see it happening, but it sure would be awesome! I'll be able to host all my web stuff at home and save money. Always easier to manage servers that are a walk away than some that are 1000km away.
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Bell? There's Fibre and there's "Fibre". I have the latter. All they've done is replace the copper trunk lines with fibre optics. The local loop lines to the houses are still copper and use the ADSL standard. Only new builds are getting true fibre access in the GTA. At least for now. I doubt Timmins will be getting special treatment.

I don't see big telecom installing true gigabit anytime soon, or at least charging anything reasonable for it. Certainly not while net neutrality remains a reality (as it should). They don't want to make their conventional telephone and television services obsolete.
 
mmntech said:
Bell? There's Fibre and there's "Fibre". I have the latter. All they've done is replace the copper trunk lines with fibre optics. The local loop lines to the houses are still copper and use the ADSL standard. Only new builds are getting true fibre access in the GTA. At least for now. I doubt Timmins will be getting special treatment.

I don't see big telecom installing true gigabit anytime soon, or at least charging anything reasonable for it. Certainly not while net neutrality remains a reality (as it should). They don't want to make their conventional telephone and television services obsolete.
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The rumor is actual Fibre to the home (Fibre OP), but it's just a rumor. It's more like "Sudbury got it, so I think we're next" so it's not exactly a reliable rumor eh. One can only dream though. :awe:

Might see more activity if the snow melts, such as cable locates and stuff. 😀
 
Jumpem said:
I don't do that either. I have FiOS movie channels and Netflix for new release blu-rays. I tried Netflix streaming a few years ago and didn't like the quality. It could be better now.
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You don't do that right now. In 10 years everybody will be instantly downloading HD movies, streaming 4K, etc. We need to get the infrastructure put together now to support that.

It's a chicken egg sort of problem. Nobody is doing things that require gigabit speeds because nobody has gigabit speeds.
 
Jumpem said:
I don't do that either. I have FiOS movie channels and Netflix for new release blu-rays. I tried Netflix streaming a few years ago and didn't like the quality. It could be better now.
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You do realize Netflix limits their video quality precisely because the majority of their customers don't have access to lines fast enough to handle them?

You should know that your FiOS offerings are basically the exact same thing Netflix has tried to do for years, only they can't force ISP's to sell service fast enough to do so. Those movie channels you're getting take bandwidth on your line. In fact, the bandwith the movie channels take up far exceeds the bandwidth allocated for your e-mail. You just don't know it because you don't think of those movie channels as streaming.
 
I watch 1080p netflix, it eats up solidly 1/2 my bandwidth.

So if someone else wanted to use the internet it better not be for something too heavy, or I will be bogged down and probably have to go to regular 720P. Tho I am probably upgrading to 50Mb/s next month as it's only $10 more than 20Mb/s
 
Leros said:
You don't do that right now. In 10 years everybody will be instantly downloading HD movies, streaming 4K, etc. We need to get the infrastructure put together now to support that.

It's a chicken egg sort of problem. Nobody is doing things that require gigabit speeds because nobody has gigabit speeds.
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That could be. This is the only item I have seen listed that for me could require bandwidth beyond 25/5.
 
Sahakiel said:
You do realize Netflix limits their video quality precisely because the majority of their customers don't have access to lines fast enough to handle them?

You should know that your FiOS offerings are basically the exact same thing Netflix has tried to do for years, only they can't force ISP's to sell service fast enough to do so. Those movie channels you're getting take bandwidth on your line. In fact, the bandwith the movie channels take up far exceeds the bandwidth allocated for your e-mail. You just don't know it because you don't think of those movie channels as streaming.
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I realize they are streaming. As are the on-demand features of FiOS. If Netflix streaming looked as good as my FiOS subscription I would consider it.
 
Jumpem said:
I realize they are streaming. As are the on-demand features of FiOS. If Netflix streaming looked as good as my FiOS subscription I would consider it.
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Well netflix offers 1080p streaming now soooo...

Though I dont think FiOS allows it (I have FiOS too), my private VPN will let me play it in 1080p tho.
 
QueBert said:
It's only illegal if you're downloading pirated software and ripped movies. I'm sure the guy you were replying to maxes out his 25mb/s connectopn every day downloading linux iso's and such.
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nope, usually FLAC of stuff I (usually) own, or 1080p netflix.
 
When people in a technology forum argue that we don't need gigabit I wonder what has become of us. Imagine saying in 1998 that we didn't need faster processors. Or better video cards. We wouldn't have HD capable computers. Or saying that 10Mb network cards were fast enough because you could fill up a 2 Gb drive in no time. We would not have terabyte hard drives with movies, television, pictures and music.

It's just sad. Clearly there must be forces at work that could get technologically savvy people to argue for no technological advancement. Pardon me while I weep for my country.
 
Jumpem said:
I realize they are streaming. As are the on-demand features of FiOS. If Netflix streaming looked as good as my FiOS subscription I would consider it.
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I'd say that's probably one of the main reasons to have Gigabit. Even with Netflix's less then perfect HD, I use about 100GB of bandwidth a month with Netflix. If they doubled the quality (which I'm sure 25Mbit down would support), I'd be hitting bandwidth caps with Time Warner.
 
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