GF got into a fender bender

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lupi

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Originally posted by: bobdole369
Depends on the state. I know there are states that issue tickets if caught in the intersection when the light turned to yellow, then red.

In Florida the left turning driver should yield to the driver going straight.

i'm pretty sure in any state a left turn must yield to on coming.
 

coldmeat

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Doesn't it depend on whether the guy going straight through had adequate warning that the light was about to turn? If she had claimed the intersection, then the yellow is her time to turn. Of course, she still should have been watching.
 

Tweak155

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Originally posted by: rezinn
Originally posted by: shocksyde
Sounds like it's her fault. She's gotta make sure the intersection is clear before she goes ahead. This is why I hate waiting in interesections during green lights and then having to go after it's turned yellow. I'm always afraid someone is going to burn through the red and demolish my ass.

Wait and run the red. That's what everyone else does and I have yet to see a cop pull anyone over for it.

If you are already in the intersection when the light turns red it is legal.

Furthermore, there is no question she is responsible on her part. Even if the light was a green turn arrow she technically SHOULD get a ticket, however that doesn't leave the other guy without any blame for running a red light.

If the light was red he would get a ticket for running a red light and she would get one for failure to yield. Let the insurance battle out the other part.
 

uclaLabrat

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Aug 2, 2007
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Originally posted by: skim milk
yeah, in los angeles, people depend on that yellow light to make a left turn since there's no left turn traffic light in certain areas
hopefully it's the other guys fault. People who are familiar with L.A. driving know to stop as soon as yellow is shown. It's like an unwritten rule

What part of LA do you drive in? Around westwood nobody is that nice.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: uclaLabrat
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
PLEASE DEAR GOD TELL ME THE CORGI IS OK!

KT

They were coming home from the dog park :(

The one by the fair grounds, or in HB?

I actually live in near Silverlake, so Silverlake =P

Originally posted by: MyThirdEye
Originally posted by: skim milk
pic of gf?

Open wide your third eye and scroll up.
 

CRXican

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Originally posted by: uclaLabrat
Originally posted by: skim milk
yeah, in los angeles, people depend on that yellow light to make a left turn since there's no left turn traffic light in certain areas
hopefully it's the other guys fault. People who are familiar with L.A. driving know to stop as soon as yellow is shown. It's like an unwritten rule

What part of LA do you drive in? Around westwood nobody is that nice.

I was going to say. That's total BS. Yellow means floor it!

Not sure where you drive mr milk.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Usual who's at fault deal

Non-protected left turn. GF was waiting to make left. Light turns yellow. GF attempts to make turn, guy going straight attempts to beat light. Cars collide; seems like a minor fender bender since the only thing that?s really destroyed is the entire driver side headlight housing. Evidently her driver side front hit the other driver side front.

Pics later when I get home from work.

//edit, this is in CA

Your gf is at fault since cars turning left need to yield to cars going straight.
 

Whisper

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Was the light yellow for both of them, or was it turning yellow for the guy going straight as it was about to turn into a green arrow for your GF? That might impact the decision.

If it was yellow for both, then I'd imagine it's going to be largely her fault. Even if it was about to turn green for her, though, I'd still the majority of fault would lie with her.
 

FDF12389

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Sep 8, 2005
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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: skim milk
pic of gf?

this is all you guys get :)

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She looks like a bad driver, probably her fault.


JK, it will depend on the officer and or witnesses, the insurance companies will use that info to assign liability.
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: skim milk
pic of gf?

this is all you guys get :)

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u r azn? would have never guessed

whats ns1 stand for?

as for your op:
she's at fault. like all others said, driver going strait has right of way

but here's a defense:
she looked, and it was clear to go. he came out of nowhere, like he was speeding
 

skim milk

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Originally posted by: CRXican
Originally posted by: uclaLabrat
Originally posted by: skim milk
yeah, in los angeles, people depend on that yellow light to make a left turn since there's no left turn traffic light in certain areas
hopefully it's the other guys fault. People who are familiar with L.A. driving know to stop as soon as yellow is shown. It's like an unwritten rule

What part of LA do you drive in? Around westwood nobody is that nice.

I was going to say. That's total BS. Yellow means floor it!

Not sure where you drive mr milk.

ever drive in downtown L.A.?
where the traffic is horrible and there are no left turn traffic signals. The ONLY way you will make a left is on yellow. Try and see for yourself. If you try to floor it on yellow, the cars trying to make a left will honk like crazy.
 

FDF12389

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Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: skim milk
pic of gf?

this is all you guys get :)

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u r azn? would have never guessed

whats ns1 stand for?

as for your op:
she's at fault. like all others said, driver going strait has right of way

but here's a defense:
she looked, and it was clear to go. he came out of nowhere, like he was speeding

I have seen this go both ways, depends on the timing.
 

Sluggo

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I think unless she has a witness at the scene, traveling in the same direction as the guy, she is screwed.

She doesn't know what his light was doing, or when it was doing it. She is assuming his actions and or circumstances, which most certainly won't be a viable defense.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Sluggo
I think unless she has a witness at the scene, traveling in the same direction as the guy, she is screwed.

She doesn't know what his light was doing, or when it was doing it. She is assuming his actions and or circumstances, which most certainly won't be a viable defense.

Yep she took a chance and f'd it up. Women drivers FTL.
 

Agentbolt

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California law says she's at fault. Vehicle traveling through the intersection straight has the right of way, and your GF had the greater duty to yield. Since she was proximate cause of the accident, she'll be 100% at fault.

<--- Insurance Adjuster.
 

jpeyton

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She's 100% at fault because the driver making a non-protected left turn has to yield to oncoming traffic (even if that traffic is trying to beat a yellow).
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: skim milk
pic of gf?

this is all you guys get :)

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Well hell...there's the cause of it all...she's Asian...of course it's HER fault...:p

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc21801.htm

"21801. (a) The driver of a vehicle intending to turn to the left or to complete a U-turn upon a highway, or to turn left into public or private property, or an alley, shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles approaching from the opposite direction which are close enough to constitute a hazard at any time during the turning movement, and shall continue to yield the right-of-way to the approaching vehicles until the left turn or U-turn can be made with reasonable safety.

(b) A driver having yielded as prescribed in subdivision (a), and having given a signal when and as required by this code, may turn left or complete a U-turn, and the drivers of vehicles approaching the intersection or the entrance to the property or alley from the opposite direction shall yield the right-of-way to the turning vehicle."