Getting wisdom teeth removed, should I go under?

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alkemyst

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I had all four pulled with no anesthesia whatsoever!!!

that was a dream bro. They pulled one of mine before the doc saw some tears and asked if I felt his needle in my mouth. I thought it was supposed to hurt a bit. They then numbed me up proper and I was good to go.
 

AznAnarchy99

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It's still all about dosage. There's nothing chemically different about the hydrocodone in the pills you get from your dentist. If you want to get high from them, it's just a matter of taking a few. Even the dosage required isn't terribly small - they usually give out 7.5mg's (the others are 5mg's and 10mg's), which get most people feeling VERY good after only 3.

I got 5mg hydrocodone and 500mg acetaminophen pills.

Prescription says one every four hours. Ive been taking them every 2 since they've been wearing off and it starts hurting bad. I was trying to save some for later use and deal with the pain but it started becoming throbbing.
 

PottedMeat

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I got 5mg hydrocodone and 500mg acetaminophen pills.

Prescription says one every four hours. Ive been taking them every 2 since they've been wearing off and it starts hurting bad. I was trying to save some for later use and deal with the pain but it started becoming throbbing.

they gave me ibuprofen (double OTC i think) and hydrocodone. never had to take the hydrocodone, the ibuprofen took care of all the pain.
 

tcG

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I got 5mg hydrocodone and 500mg acetaminophen pills.

Prescription says one every four hours. Ive been taking them every 2 since they've been wearing off and it starts hurting bad. I was trying to save some for later use and deal with the pain but it started becoming throbbing.

At least you tried. :p That sucks that there is pain if you don't take them. My surgeon must have been really good because I had a horizontally impacted one (IDK if they had to break any bones though... maybe they didn't so it wasn't bad) and there was no pain afterwords.

they gave me ibuprofen (double OTC i think) and hydrocodone. never had to take the hydrocodone, the ibuprofen took care of all the pain.

And I bet you threw those magical pills away like a goddamn square. ^_^ Expensive good times down the tube. I'm only kidding though... I can't honestly say that it's really a good idea to recreationally use opiates.
 

preslove

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You don't want to be awake for that kind of procedure. A root canal is bad enough.
 

vailr

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For what it's worth: there's a 2012-dated video (torrent) titled: "In.Search.of.The.Perfect.Human.Diet".
http://perfecthumandiet.us
It theorizes that in order to avoid having wisdom teeth problems, one must avoid eating cereal grains and dairy, and instead eat mostly animal-sourced protein. The "Paleo" (low-carb) diet was followed by humans for most of the last 2 million years, as the theory goes.
 

kyrax12

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For what it's worth: there's a 2012-dated video (torrent) titled: "In.Search.of.The.Perfect.Human.Diet".
http://perfecthumandiet.us
It theorizes that in order to avoid having wisdom teeth problems, one must avoid eating cereal grains and dairy, and instead eat mostly animal-sourced protein. The "Paleo" (low-carb) diet was followed by humans for most of the last 2 million years, as the theory goes.

Interesting?

I wonder how that theory was made because if you brush and floss everyday then your teeths should be fine.
 

Hugh Jass

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You don't want to be awake for that kind of procedure. A root canal is bad enough.

I had a root canal not too long ago...heard about how bad it was before hand and was all worried...ended up being all for nothing...easy peasy lemon squeezy.

Must be a buncha pussies out there.
 

jlee

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General is awesome (had it for eye surgery)....wake up a few hours later and everything is done.
 

dentalmayhem

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hello,

i'm a current resident for oral and maxillofacial surgery. feel free to ask questions. pertaining to IV sedation for wisdom teeth removal we use the following drugs (the most popular)

1) midazolam (kinda like a xanax or valium, but stronger)
2) fentanyl (50-100 more potent than morphine)
3) decadron (steroid for anti-inflammatory)
4) glycopyrolate (kinda like atropine anti-parasympathetic)
5) brevital (methohexital..barbituate for hypnosis)
6) propofol (hypnosis...sedation)
7) ketamine

wisdom teeth have their own classification such as mesioangular, distoangular, horizontal, and vertical impaction along with Pell and Gregory classifications of A, B, C, 1, 2, 3,
 
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tcG

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I have a question. Is it possible for a wisdom tooth coming in on one side to shift my entire dental arch (dunno if terminology is correct here) half a centimeter over? I have no wisdom teeth on the bottom, but one on the top is fully in and the other is way up by my sinus, not even close to coming in. It appears that the one that came in has shifted my maxillary teeth over to the left, causing my bite to not line up any more and my maxillary teeth to be misaligned with my face. My teeth are otherwise straight (though I do have an overbite) and I've never had braces. My teeth are also very tightly spaced. The shifting happened when the wisdom tooth came in. Do you think the teeth would go back on their own if I had the wisdom tooth pulled? The surgeon who extracted my lower wisdom teeth recommended that I get the wisdom tooth out because it would affect the lower teeth, but I never did because it seemed ridiculous to me to pull a perfectly healthy tooth. I never did have any problems with the wisdom tooth hitting the lower area, but I'm thinking I'll have to get it out now if I want my maxillary teeth in the correct position. Thanks for the question answering!

Also, this may not be your area, but do you know anything about gold inlays/onlays, either by the R.V. Tucker gold foil method or by having the gold filling made in a lab? Specifically, whether it's possible to have a somewhat deep composite filling in a molar replaced with a gold inlay. The reason is that I'm young and composites don't last forever. I'd rather replace it with a permanent filling before leakage and composite failure causes recurrent decay and eventually a root canal.
 
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Murloc

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I have a question. Is it possible for a wisdom tooth coming in on one side to shift my entire dental arch (dunno if terminology is correct here) half a centimeter over? I have no wisdom teeth on the bottom, but one on the top is fully in and the other is way up by my sinus, not even close to coming in. It appears that the one that came in has shifted my maxillary teeth over to the left, causing my bite to not line up any more and my maxillary teeth to be misaligned with my face. My teeth are otherwise straight (though I do have an overbite) and I've never had braces. My teeth are also very tightly spaced. The shifting happened when the wisdom tooth came in. Do you think the teeth would go back on their own if I had the wisdom tooth pulled? The surgeon who extracted my lower wisdom teeth recommended that I get the wisdom tooth out because it would affect the lower teeth, but I never did because it seemed ridiculous to me to pull a perfectly healthy tooth. I never did have any problems with the wisdom tooth hitting the lower area, but I'm thinking I'll have to get it out now if I want my maxillary teeth in the correct position. Thanks for the question answering!

Also, this may not be your area, but do you know anything about gold inlays/onlays, either by the R.V. Tucker gold foil method or by having the gold filling made in a lab? Specifically, whether it's possible to have a somewhat deep composite filling in a molar replaced with a gold inlay. The reason is that I'm young and composites don't last forever. I'd rather replace it with a permanent filling before leakage and composite failure causes recurrent decay and eventually a root canal.
I had perfect but tightly spaced teeth.
Then the wisdom teeth came, and they were half-way out when I took them out. They had already fucked everything up. Now I have rotated canines and overlapping incisives.
 

dentalmayhem

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I have a question. Is it possible for a wisdom tooth coming in on one side to shift my entire dental arch (dunno if terminology is correct here) half a centimeter over? I have no wisdom teeth on the bottom, but one on the top is fully in and the other is way up by my sinus, not even close to coming in. It appears that the one that came in has shifted my maxillary teeth over to the left, causing my bite to not line up any more and my maxillary teeth to be misaligned with my face. My teeth are otherwise straight (though I do have an overbite) and I've never had braces. My teeth are also very tightly spaced. The shifting happened when the wisdom tooth came in. Do you think the teeth would go back on their own if I had the wisdom tooth pulled? The surgeon who extracted my lower wisdom teeth recommended that I get the wisdom tooth out because it would affect the lower teeth, but I never did because it seemed ridiculous to me to pull a perfectly healthy tooth. I never did have any problems with the wisdom tooth hitting the lower area, but I'm thinking I'll have to get it out now if I want my maxillary teeth in the correct position. Thanks for the question answering!

Also, this may not be your area, but do you know anything about gold inlays/onlays, either by the R.V. Tucker gold foil method or by having the gold filling made in a lab? Specifically, whether it's possible to have a somewhat deep composite filling in a molar replaced with a gold inlay. The reason is that I'm young and composites don't last forever. I'd rather replace it with a permanent filling before leakage and composite failure causes recurrent decay and eventually a root canal.

pertaining to wisdom teeth causing a misalignment of teeth, in theory, it is thought to be false. wisdom teeth do not have enough force to push many teeth. imagine one guy pushing 8+ guys infront of him. sure he will probably push the guy directly infront of him alittle, but the next guy after that...barely. it looks like you have a constricted maxilla (you do not have enough room for all of your teeth). there are two ways to fix this from an orthodontist perspective. they either extract two premolars on top (most popular way), of if you maxilla is really restricted they expand your palate laterally with a rapid palatal expander. if maxillary teeth (upper teeth) do not contact bottom teeth then overtime they tend to super erupt downward (another reason to get none contacting teeth extracted)

p.s.
all oral maxillofacial surgeons were first trained as dentists. composites have their pros and cons. their pros are they are very pretty, tooth color, and if done right look pretty good. the cons are they tend to wear away faster than silver fillings, are very meticulous to do, and have larger marginal gaps (recurrent cavities/leakage). if you have a large filling (and it is failing) i recommend getting a gold onlay. inlays are horrible for large fillings because of the "wedge effect" causing fractures to the buccal/palatal cusps. a gold onlay will protect the cusps from fracturing with masticatory forces. out of all the dental material out there gold is the superior material. the only con about it is it is gold in color.
 

ichy

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I got 5mg hydrocodone and 500mg acetaminophen pills.

Prescription says one every four hours. Ive been taking them every 2 since they've been wearing off and it starts hurting bad. I was trying to save some for later use and deal with the pain but it started becoming throbbing.

TERRIBLE idea. The hydrocodone probably won't hurt you but doubling up on acetaminophen can fuck up your liver.
 

vailr

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Interesting?

I wonder how that theory was made because if you brush and floss everyday then your teeths should be fine.

The referenced video says/theorizes that by consuming cereal grains and dairy foods, that the entire jaw configuration is changed and mouth size reduced from "what would have been". The nasal cavity size (as the theory goes) is also reduced, making breathing more shallow.
Wisdom teeth, more often than not, arrive in late teen years crooked or impacted. "Brush and floss everyday" would have no effect on wisdom teeth configuration.
Long term diet, however, may well have an effect.
 
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AznAnarchy99

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TERRIBLE idea. The hydrocodone probably won't hurt you but doubling up on acetaminophen can fuck up your liver.

Yea woke up this morning with no pain really. Probably wont take any all day. Ended up pissing brown in the morning so Im guessing it might be all the acetaminophen.
 

tcG

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pertaining to wisdom teeth causing a misalignment of teeth, in theory, it is thought to be false. wisdom teeth do not have enough force to push many teeth. imagine one guy pushing 8+ guys infront of him. sure he will probably push the guy directly infront of him alittle, but the next guy after that...barely. it looks like you have a constricted maxilla (you do not have enough room for all of your teeth). there are two ways to fix this from an orthodontist perspective. they either extract two premolars on top (most popular way), of if you maxilla is really restricted they expand your palate laterally with a rapid palatal expander. if maxillary teeth (upper teeth) do not contact bottom teeth then overtime they tend to super erupt downward (another reason to get none contacting teeth extracted)

p.s.
all oral maxillofacial surgeons were first trained as dentists. composites have their pros and cons. their pros are they are very pretty, tooth color, and if done right look pretty good. the cons are they tend to wear away faster than silver fillings, are very meticulous to do, and have larger marginal gaps (recurrent cavities/leakage). if you have a large filling (and it is failing) i recommend getting a gold onlay. inlays are horrible for large fillings because of the "wedge effect" causing fractures to the buccal/palatal cusps. a gold onlay will protect the cusps from fracturing with masticatory forces. out of all the dental material out there gold is the superior material. the only con about it is it is gold in color.

Very good information! Thank you very much. I've heard the same thing from my dentist about the wisdom tooth not causing my teeth to shift over. I don't know though... my teeth were fine before the wisdom tooth started pushing its way in... and they shifted away from the tooth coming in. It just seems like that's what caused it. I think you're right about the constricted maxilla. I probably need my upper wisdom teeth removed and then orthodontics. I'd rather do palate expansion than have teeth removed.

Thanks for the information about onlays. It's good to hear that you're one of the practitioners who knows gold is the best dental restorative material... I'm surprised gold isn't used for filling material more often. Yes, it's expensive, but we're talking about the teeth that you will have forever here!
 
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Doppel

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When I did it my doctor said he suggests it always, and especially for impacted teeth. It was another $300-400 iirc and my mom said she didn't want it because of the price and he cut the price in half for us. Ask him, it can't hurt.
Your doctor is a fvcktard. Going under general anesthetic puts the patient at much more risk and for such a minor surgery as wisdom teeth unless there are extenuating circumstances it's asinine. Any MD worth sh*t will say the same, every one of them. It's hardly a big deal anyway, you sit there for a while and he does his thing. It's not fun, but man up and don't risk the very real possibility of complications from general unless needed. Plenty of vasectomies are performed with a local. If a guy can have somebody cut his freaking junk up while awake a few teeth shouldn't be a problem.

http://www.anesthesiaweb.org/risk.php
 
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jagec

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The referenced video says/theorizes that by consuming cereal grains and dairy foods, that the entire jaw configuration is changed and mouth size reduced from "what would have been". The nasal cavity size (as the theory goes) is also reduced, making breathing more shallow.
Wisdom teeth, more often than not, arrive in late teen years crooked or impacted. "Brush and floss everyday" would have no effect on wisdom teeth configuration.
Long term diet, however, may well have an effect.

Wow, that's complete bullshit. And I suppose that if you hang upside down for half an hour every day, you'll grow taller?
 

Maximilian

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I had two upper wisdom teeth removed, the whole thing only took about 10-15 minutes and i spent most of that sat in the waiting room waiting for my gum to go numb, the tooth getting taken out part only took about a minute, far quicker and easier than i thought it would be.

Both were impacted and through the gum a bit. No need to go under.
 

jagec

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I did it completely awake, all 4, with two of them coming in sideways. Local only (mind you, I was grateful for the local! Can't imagine what dentistry was like in the middle ages).

If you're the type of guy that faints at the sight of blood, I suppose it might be worth paying hundreds of dollars to get put to sleep. After all, if you never wake up, you'll never know it right?
 

alkemyst

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Your doctor is a fvcktard. Going under general anesthetic puts the patient at much more risk and for such a minor surgery as wisdom teeth unless there are extenuating circumstances it's asinine. Any MD worth sh*t will say the same, every one of them. It's hardly a big deal anyway, you sit there for a while and he does his thing. It's not fun, but man up and don't risk the very real possibility of complications from general unless needed. Plenty of vasectomies are performed with a local. If a guy can have somebody cut his freaking junk up while awake a few teeth shouldn't be a problem.

http://www.anesthesiaweb.org/risk.php

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