Getting closer to being a banana republic

[GodisanAtheist]

"It's a big club, and you ain't in it"

 

[ivwshane]

Obama attending Trump's inauguration is pathetic. What a fucking putz. Biden too. All just a bunch of yahoos.

And what message would they have been sending if they don’t attend? Go ahead and game it out for us. Tell us all the moves democrats should do and the impact they will have on anything.

 

[ivwshane]

I know they think they're doing it for the good of the country, but I agree, this is the wrong move

What’s the right move? What are the consequences of such a move?

 

[Fenixgoon]

What’s the right move? What are the consequences of such a move?

Biden has reason to attend since he is passing the torch and symbolizes the peaceful transfer of power.

Obama? Not so much. I don't think I would if I were him.

 

[MrSquished]

And what message would they have been sending if they don’t attend? Go ahead and game it out for us. Tell us all the moves democrats should do and the impact they will have on anything.

It's a small but simple statement that there is no need to attend an inauguration that is a total farce. Why give it legitimacy? A guy swearing allegiance to s constitution they give no shits about, to a country they just want to exploit and destroy? It's a fucking farce, and it's insulting to anybody with intelligence that they would attend this clown show.

I mean I find it troubling you need this spelled out for you. This is just a basic common sense thing

 

[manly]

Nobody with an iota of common sense is MAGA. To join MAGA you must part ways with critical thought.

just when you thought he couldn't possibly be more moronic, he proves himself yet again.

Disagree. She may have on this one specifically. But when you have billionaire's basically saying we'll finance all the primarying against you it takes, people with a little moral character will lose it totally.

There's no evidence whatsoever that Joni Ernst was "better" than concerned Susan Collins or semi-independent Lisa Murkowski. With the once and next president, his party was always going to roll over and rubber-stamp whatever he wants.* Only Matt Gaetz was a bridge too far.

Having said that, your follow-up shows how much of a ghoul Ernst truly is. She's on record as saying she was raped in college, so this was her chance to show her moral character.

* The big question now is what will House Reps do with the forthcoming reconciliation bill? The Tea Party has proudly claimed to be fiscal conservatives, but they're going to have to set that aside to pass Trump's debt-busting agenda. My best guess is despite insisting they want to be "revenue-neutral," they will ultimately cave to Trump and claim Reaganomics will continue to trickle down.

Hegseth was the one nominee I was sure would NOT be Senate confirmed. I couldn’t see someone like Tom Cotton actually rooting for the guy. But now we know better.

Aside from Gaetz before he quit, all the betting odds for Trump's nominees favored confirmation in recent weeks. Even the shakiest of them all, Tulsi was roughly a 2:1 favorite last time I checked (Hegseth's odds had crashed early on, but had recovered). Short of a disastrous confirmation hearing, they will all get pushed over the line by the GOP.

 

[ivwshane]

Biden has reason to attend since he is passing the torch and symbolizes the peaceful transfer of power.

Obama? Not so much. I don't think I would if I were him.

That’s not an answer. Game it out. Think about the ensuing talking points and the fallout, and threats that might come next. Is more division the answer here?

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Could also refer to the Obamacare healthcare profits since..

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You think doctors are the ones fucking people over in this corrupt system? This is the insurance companies, private equity buying up hospital systems, big pharma, etc that are raping the American people.

 

[MrSquished]

That’s not an answer. Game it out. Think about the ensuing talking points and the fallout, and threats that might come next. Is more division the answer here?

See this is what it's just sad. Who cares about right-wing talking points anymore don't you get it? Fall out and threats? There's already all the crazy threats.

You need to get your shit together like the Democratic leadership does. If you think it's really that overly daring and out of line to just not attend a farce of an inauguration, then I find that extremely sad and pathetic.

Imagine being worried about right-wing talking points at this stage in the game. Holy fuck.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

The big question now is what will House Reps do with the forthcoming reconciliation bill? The Tea Party has proudly claimed to be fiscal conservatives, but they're going to have to set that aside to pass Trump's debt-busting agenda. My best guess is despite insisting they want to be "revenue-neutral," they will ultimately cave to Trump and claim Reaganomics will continue to trickle down.

Fiscal conservative means run up the debt to give tax cuts to the oligarchy. Same as it did 45 years ago.

 

[Indus]

You think doctors are the ones fucking people over in this corrupt system? This is the insurance companies, private equity buying up hospital systems, big pharma, etc that are raping the American people.

No.. well not 99% of them anyways.

The insurance companies are the ones that're fucking it up! But some doctors do get a % bonus if they prescribe some no name new experimental drug at crazy prices. A very small minority but it does happen AFAIK.

 

[Brainonska511]

No.. well not 99% of them anyways.

The insurance companies are the ones that're fucking it up! But some doctors do get a % bonus if they prescribe some no name new experimental drug at crazy prices. A very small minority but it does happen AFAIK.

Do you have proof that doctors are getting kickbacks for such activities? You can make a lot of money if you have proof and want to file a false claims lawsuit against people and companies for violating the Anti-Kickback Statute.

Also, insurance generally won't pay for things considered experimental (and this is pretty universal across all health systems). And if it isn't approved (like a clinical trial), the pharmaceutical company picks up the tab for the drug. If you're paying to be in a clinical trial, it's probably a scam.

 

[Indus]

Do you have proof that doctors are getting kickbacks for such activities? You can make a lot of money if you have proof and want to file a false claims lawsuit against people and companies for violating the Anti-Kickback Statute.

Also, insurance generally won't pay for things considered experimental (and this is pretty universal across all health systems). And if it isn't approved (like a clinical trial), the pharmaceutical company picks up the tab for the drug. If you're paying to be in a clinical trial, it's probably a scam.

Do I suspicions about a few? yes.

Can I prove it? no.

 

[ivwshane]

See this is what it's just sad. Who cares about right-wing talking points anymore don't you get it? Fall out and threats? There's already all the crazy threats.

You need to get your shit together like the Democratic leadership does. If you think it's really that overly daring and out of line to just not attend a farce of an inauguration, then I find that extremely sad and pathetic.

Imagine being worried about right-wing talking points at this stage in the game. Holy fuck.

So you are advocating for civil war then?

 

[MrSquished]

So you are advocating for civil war then?

I'm advocating for a civil war by saying Obama and Biden shouldn't show up to Trump's farce of an inauguration?

Are you ok?

 

[Brainonska511]

Do I suspicions about a few? yes.

Can I prove it? no.

Having worked in this area, pharma companies are generally very concerned with compliance issues, because OPDP and the FDA come down like a hammer, and doing shady shit makes other doctors suspicious, undercutting your ability to sell pharmaceuticals.

If doctors are doing shady things, it's probably more along the lines of trying to rack up diagnostic codes or doing unnecessary procedures to be able to bill insurance companies for more money.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I'm advocating for a civil war by saying Obama and Biden shouldn't show up to Trump's farce of an inauguration?

Are you ok?

Don't know why you're surprised. This is the same Uncle Tom who chose to sip Flint's water in a photo op to defend GOP governor Rick Snyder instead of the silly darkies Snyder poisoned in Flint.

 

[Fenixgoon]

That’s not an answer. Game it out. Think about the ensuing talking points and the fallout, and threats that might come next. Is more division the answer here?

oh no, democrats are being mean again by calling a spade a spade. meanwhile, trump attempted an overthrow of the government with no repercussions. you're telling me a symbolic gesture of disapproval/resistance is somehow going to make things worse?

 

[ivwshane]

oh no, democrats are being mean again by calling a spade a spade. meanwhile, trump attempted an overthrow of the government with no repercussions. you're telling me a symbolic gesture of disapproval/resistance is somehow going to make things worse?

Is it going to make things better? So then what’s the point?

 

[MrSquished]

Is it going to make things better? So then what’s the point?

No it's making things worse by going. You really have no point except that you are scared of your own shadow.

 

[ivwshane]

No it's making things worse by going. You really have no point except that you are scared of your own shadow.

Hey bro you can put me on ignore any time. If how you act here is how you acted when door knocking then it’s no wonder democrats lost.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Everyone in this thread MAGA or not MAGA should watch this

JOIN OR DIE: A film about why you should join a club

A feature documentary on the life and work of civic guru Robert Putnam.

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Realize these numbers need to change, these numbers are why we argue so much with each other. Realize YOU are part of the problem and realize you will and need to hear voices and opinions you may not like simply so we can all understand each other better and ultimately move the ball forward.

 

[MrSquished]

Hey bro you can put me on ignore any time. If how you act here is how you acted when door knocking then it’s no wonder democrats lost.

Just another FYI, the internet is not three dimensional land.

Why don't you explain to us why Obama and Biden not going to the inauguration is this absolute terrible idea. Because you haven't, besides saying Republicans will have talking points, which we all know they have talking points no matter what happens, so we should have learned that lesson by now.

Do you have any legitimate concerns about Obama or Biden not attending Trump's inauguration? - Which will be mockery of the sanctity of the entire event and the Constitution itself

 

[ivwshane]

So use a different reason other than the reason I already gave, meanwhile you have yet give a reason why they shouldn’t attend. Lol ok

 

[MrSquished]

So use a different reason other than the reason I already gave, meanwhile you have yet give a reason why they shouldn’t attend. Lol ok

yeah I did.

It's a small but simple statement that there is no need to attend an inauguration that is a total farce. Why give it legitimacy? A guy swearing allegiance to s constitution they give no shits about, to a country they just want to exploit and destroy? It's a fucking farce, and it's insulting to anybody with intelligence that they would attend this clown show.

I mean I find it troubling you need this spelled out for you. This is just a basic common sense thing