Getting a vasectomy

[moshquerade]

Go for it. Didnt want kids at 23, dont want them at 30. Id get one too if i wasnt so lazy.

you should get your bits nicked too

get it? nick bits.. bits nicked... :awe:

 

[nerp]

32. If I had done what you're suggesting, I'd be regretful. My newborn daughter is the best thing to ever happen to me.

You think you got your shit together and know what's up. You don't. I know you don't want to hear it. Neither did I when I was in my early 20s. You have no idea what changes are in store for you.

Here's a tip. Wear a rubber, have your woman use the pill, or a combination of both.

If you think you won't regret this decision, talk to a 35 year woman with a giant tribal backtoo or woody woodpecker on her tit.

 

[Krynj]

I dated a girl with Crohn's disease. Experiencing it 2nd hand was enough for me.

 

[Circlenaut]

your mind is made up. i'm just saying anytime someone has a child there is the risk it may not be 100% normal. have you spoken to a Geneticist or just conducted your own research?

good luck.

I've conducted my own research and a 5% (If one parent has Crohn's) or 50%! (if one parents has Crohn's and the other Crohn's/IBD) is simply too high.

 

[Circlenaut]

32. If I had done what you're suggesting, I'd be regretful. My newborn daughter is the best thing to ever happen to me.

You think you got your shit together and know what's up. You don't. I know you don't want to hear it. Neither did I when I was in my early 20s. You have no idea what changes are in store for you.

Here's a tip. Wear a rubber, have your woman use the pill, or a combination of both.

If you think you won't regret this decision, talk to a 35 year woman with a giant tribal backtoo or woody woodpecker on her tit.

There are plenty of career orientated women out there that have absolutely no desire to have children.

Also I'd ever know what having a child is like and I'm content with this. And if I do, I'll have an adopted child that I would love.

 

[moshquerade]

I've conducted my own research and a 5% (If one parent has Crohn's) or 50%! (if one parents has Crohn's and the other Crohn's/IBD) is simply too high.

or you could just get crohns without either parent having it, eh? it's still a crap shoot.

personally, i think you are jumping the gun. i agree with the poster who said to practice safe sex, wrap it, and have her on the pill.

ten years from now you aren't going to be the same person you are today, and science is always conquering new frontiers.

 

[Greenman]

Right, like you're fucking genes really matter when it comes to raising a sentient being. Nurturing, love, education, culture matters a LOT more.

I disagree, it's different when they are blood.

 

[Kaervak]

Go for it. Didnt want kids at 23, dont want them at 30. Id get one too if i wasnt so lazy.

Right there with you. If some day I end up going insane and start wanting kids, I'd much rather adopt a child. You can give the world another child, or you can give a child another world.


And a vasectomy isn't permanent, it can be reversed. It's a little tricky, but not impossible.

 

[moshquerade]

Right there with you. If some day I end up going insane and start wanting kids, I'd much rather adopt a child. You can give the world another child, or you can give a child another world.


And a vasectomy isn't permanent, it can be reversed. It's a little tricky, but not impossible.

It can be reversed, but not always successfully.

 

[CKent]

Go to a sperm bank first. You may be 99% sure, but insurance in this case is relatively cheap. Your goo will become watery, the sperm cells themselves give it its trademark color & texture. Lots of wimmins like that, ymmv.

 

[KillerCharlie]

Wow, a divorce and vasectomy at 23, nice.

 

[IronWing]

Ignore the breeders, this is your life.

 

[dawp]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhO9i2XbHrY

 

[nerp]

You get one now and then meet the woman of your dreams. How do you think she'd respond when you tell her you got cut at 23? And yeah, plenty of career oriented women out there. Interestingly, the majority of career oriented women in their 20s that I knew are now having kids. They didn't have to give up their careers for it. You'd be surprised how a woman's perspective on the issue changes as they get a little older. Hanging with your young doctor friends skews your perspective now. Why not just cut off your penis entirely?

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

To me, getting a vasectomy doesn't have much to do with deciding whether I may or may not want children later. As I've stated before, IF I want a child in the future I will only want to adopt. Why in God's name would I want to bring a child into this world if there are millions out there in need of a good home. Also I have Crohn's disease, I know I've got crappy genes and I take potent immunosuppressants that interferes with my DNA synthesis machinery. This drug (look up 6-MP) may possibly cause germ-line mutations. I've read some studies on men fathering children while taking 6-MP but those studies use a small sample and there's no study on the lives of children fathered by men taking 6-MP. Men taking 6-MP generally have a lower sperm count, but this may actually be confounded by the fact that IBS men are generally weaker compared to the normal population. For me it's too large a risk for any potential child I may have. The wife and I have already aborted one child last year because of this (she missed her BC without telling me). I've though about this for a long time and I'm certain about what I want. The wife and I are also getting a divorce in a year (as soon as we have time/money, we just want an amicable relationship) so it's a non-issue with her.

My stepfather is similar to you, where he never really wanted to pass on his genes (he doesn't have anything like Chron's, but he doesn't believe he has great genes).

First, as has been mentioned if you want kids you can always adopt.

Second, the operation all said and done was about $600, but insurance covered it all.

Third, I'm 23 and got it done. I didn't need to go to a primary care physician, and just went to the doc's for a "screening" basically. He talked to me about the "are you sure", and basically told him a few things that I think helped him to agree to do it. I told him I was engaged (I'm not, but been in a relationship with the same girl for 2 years and basically close enough), my girl doesn't want kids either and supported it being done, I was very clear with the fact I did not want kids ever, and basically just made it clear I'm going to get it done just a matter of who and when. He agreed, and said "think about it and set the appointment for when you're ready for it." Scheduled it as soon as I could, which was a month later. You can read more about it in my thread Keith linked to (the first link he posted).

4th, It's been the best thing I've done. Not having to use condoms with her (except when we are swinging) is great. Nothing different about my nuts, sperm, amount, consistency, and gf says it tastes the same. There is no difference between pre and post operation.

If you have any questions for me, sent me a PM or ask in here (pm is better though).

Because then your kids would carry your genes? If your such a nice guy, then the world would be better with 2-3 kids of yours being nice people.

Durrrrr. I see this as obvious.

Uh, genetics do not determine a "nice guy." They might play a role, but more of it is determined by the environment the child is raised in.

Durrrr. I see this as obvious.

Ouch!

My "no knife" procedure went well. Small incision, maybe 3/16". Had it done on a Friday, sat on an icepack that evening, took it easy the weekend, back to work on Monday, played soccer on Wednesday.

Yeah, similar here. Nuts were sore, black/blue/bloody/bruised/etc for the weekend. Was horny so masturbated Saturday night (horrible decision, do NOT recommend it at all), and the next week was totally fine.

They ached sometimes for the next month or so, but nothing painful. More of just a slow ache that tylenol or something would have taken care of. Nothing major.

32. If I had done what you're suggesting, I'd be regretful. My newborn daughter is the best thing to ever happen to me.

You think you got your shit together and know what's up. You don't. I know you don't want to hear it. Neither did I when I was in my early 20s. You have no idea what changes are in store for you.

Here's a tip. Wear a rubber, have your woman use the pill, or a combination of both.

If you think you won't regret this decision, talk to a 35 year woman with a giant tribal backtoo or woody woodpecker on her tit.

Peope change their minds, but guess what? If the vasectomy is not reversible, there is always adoption. By the sounds of the OP, he is very clear that he does not want to pass on his genes so adoption is a very valid option.

There are plenty of career orientated women out there that have absolutely no desire to have children.

Also I'd ever know what having a child is like and I'm content with this. And if I do, I'll have an adopted child that I would love.

Exactly. There are many women who do not want kids. Yes most do, but it's not uncommon to find ones who don't. Also, you seem to not have any issues with adoption.

Sounds to me like a vasectomy is something that you won't regret later.

Go to a sperm bank first. You may be 99% sure, but insurance in this case is relatively cheap. Your goo will become watery, the sperm cells themselves give it its trademark color & texture. Lots of wimmins like that, ymmv.

Two comments here. First, if you think you may want children that are biologically related to you, then yes do a sperm bank. That's up to you, as it does cost $.

As for the changes you discuss in the goo. Have you had a vasectomy, or are you just talking out of your ass? Mine is not watery now (might not quite be as thick, but close enough to the same as it was), the color is the same, and texture is the same. The sperm comprise less then 1% of the "goo", and do not affect it as you describe (there might be some cases where it does, but most men do not have any noticable change to their goo).

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

You get one now and then meet the woman of your dreams. How do you think she'd respond when you tell her you got cut at 23? And yeah, plenty of career oriented women out there. Interestingly, the majority of career oriented women in their 20s that I knew are now having kids. They didn't have to give up their careers for it. You'd be surprised how a woman's perspective on the issue changes as they get a little older. Hanging with your young doctor friends skews your perspective now. Why not just cut off your penis entirely?

Well, if she is "the woman of his dreams", then she would be okay with it and it wouldn't cause any problems. If she wanted kids at some point, she would be fine with adoption. That's me, but I'd be willing to be the OP feels similarly. Correct me if I'm wrong though OP.

I know you're not an idiot, so I hope that you don't honestly think cutting off your penis entirely is remotely close to getting a vasectomy.

 

[RaistlinZ]

Thing is, once you're a father you'll always be a father. There're no "do-overs". Wearing a condom is smart, but it's no guarantee. And if the OP does get some girl pregnant he'd be looking at the next 18 years of child support and the pressure to get married, etc. I don't think he wants that risk at all. Just too much stress to be thinking about every time he's intimate with a woman.

I say just go for it. Take that stress off your shoulders. Life is too short to be worrying about such things.

 

[Jzero]

Way too young. I have another friend who got her tubes tied and it always drove me nuts. Not her desire to not have children, but her need to sort of "prove it" to the world at the age of 25 by getting the ligation done. She actually complained that her PCP recommended that she undergo a psychological evaluation before getting the procedure done. Why not? If you're so sure of yourself it wouldn't kill you to make sure you really do have all your wits about you and have considered all possibilities before making a major, life-changing, hard-to-reverse decision.

"I can always adopt" seems like a good fall-back, but having had other friends and family go through different adoption processes which are costly and require you to endure all sorts of external interference on your life (while crackheads and morons are popping out all sorts of kids and no one can do a thing about it, you just want to give a deserving kid a loving home and you're the one undergoing all the scrutiny), I can say two things: one, god bless each and every one of you adoptive parents...and two, I don't think I'd be willing to endure the process.

I'm do not intend this as "judging" but given that you've already gotten married (and soon divorced) at 23, it seems like an indicator that you might be the type to rush in unprepared or make rash decisions. It's important to know yourself. If this is you, this is not really a good decision to make just because it sounds awesome right now.

Good luck!

 

[AstroManLuca]

or you could just get crohns without either parent having it, eh? it's still a crap shoot.

lol

 

[blackdogdeek]

why do you have to get it now? you can always get it later on in your life.

 

[Circlenaut]

Well, if she is "the woman of his dreams", then she would be okay with it and it wouldn't cause any problems. If she wanted kids at some point, she would be fine with adoption. That's me, but I'd be willing to be the OP feels similarly. Correct me if I'm wrong though OP.

I know you're not an idiot, so I hope that you don't honestly think cutting off your penis entirely is remotely close to getting a vasectomy.

Exactly what I feel. If I do meet the "women of my dreams" she would not want any kids and if she does then she's not the person for me. Simple as that.

 

[Circlenaut]

why do you have to get it now? you can always get it later on in your life.

Because it greatly minimizes accidental pregnancies...?

 

[Circlenaut]

Way too young. I have another friend who got her tubes tied and it always drove me nuts. Not her desire to not have children, but her need to sort of "prove it" to the world at the age of 25 by getting the ligation done. She actually complained that her PCP recommended that she undergo a psychological evaluation before getting the procedure done. Why not? If you're so sure of yourself it wouldn't kill you to make sure you really do have all your wits about you and have considered all possibilities before making a major, life-changing, hard-to-reverse decision.

"I can always adopt" seems like a good fall-back, but having had other friends and family go through different adoption processes which are costly and require you to endure all sorts of external interference on your life (while crackheads and morons are popping out all sorts of kids and no one can do a thing about it, you just want to give a deserving kid a loving home and you're the one undergoing all the scrutiny), I can say two things: one, god bless each and every one of you adoptive parents...and two, I don't think I'd be willing to endure the process.

I'm do not intend this as "judging" but given that you've already gotten married (and soon divorced) at 23, it seems like an indicator that you might be the type to rush in unprepared or make rash decisions. It's important to know yourself. If this is you, this is not really a good decision to make just because it sounds awesome right now.

Good luck!

My getting married was not because we actually "wanted to spend the rest of our lives together" it was more of a mutually beneficial thing that I would rather not detail. I am not the type of person to rush unprepared into anything.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

God's gift to men is the staircase. If you knock someone up show them the top of the stairs first, and then tumble them down to solution.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

My getting married was not because we actually "wanted to spend the rest of our lives together" it was more of a mutually beneficial thing that I would rather not detail. I am not the type of person to rush unprepared into anything.

Financial aid? School becomes rediculusly cheap when you're married. So does insurance (car), and medical is usually cheaper then too (in addition to just having it).