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GagHalfrunt

Lifer
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Massively cute. And they're going to grow up to be real dogs, not ankle-biting pseudo-hamsters. Nice choice, good luck with them.
 

trmiv

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Massively cute. And they're going to grow up to be real dogs, not ankle-biting pseudo-hamsters. Nice choice, good luck with them.

I don't mind the little one's though, we already have an 8 pound maltese. The funny thing is, she agrees with you about little dogs. She was raised around a 150 mastiff/ridgeback mix and has little tolerance for other small dogs, but loves big ones.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Congrats trmiv, I hope this little guy fares better. That was a really sad ordeal before.

Question: Did the breeder guarantee against congenital hip problems? Pure bred Shepards have been known to have such problems.

Yes he is guaranteed. Also, every dog on his pedigree was OFA certified for hips

a guarantee unfortunately is only good as getting another dog or your money back...neither of which are helpful.

While a good start OFA certification doesn't guarantee the pups will.

I'd have adopted a dog personally.

Good luck with the brothers though, it's nice you can at least keep two semi-together.
 

trmiv

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Congrats trmiv, I hope this little guy fares better. That was a really sad ordeal before.

Question: Did the breeder guarantee against congenital hip problems? Pure bred Shepards have been known to have such problems.

Yes he is guaranteed. Also, every dog on his pedigree was OFA certified for hips

a guarantee unfortunately is only good as getting another dog or your money back...neither of which are helpful.

While a good start OFA certification doesn't guarantee the pups will.

I'd have adopted a dog personally.

Good luck with the brothers though, it's nice you can at least keep two semi-together.

I'm aware what the guarantee is for.

Also as you've seen, we already adopted a dog, he died from distemper.
 

thedarkwolf

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Oct 13, 1999
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I have a white shepherd too. She is 12 now and on her last leg literally. She has hip dysplasia in both back legs and over the last few years one of her front elbows has starting getting pretty bad too. I actually thought today was going to be her last day because she was acting weird and falling down more then normal but then she perked back up again and seemed to be as ok as she can be. My parents got a sable shepherd from a high quality breeder and ended up with the same problem. They spent the $3500 to get his hip replaced though and he is fine now for the most part. I didn't have the cash when mine was young enough to do.

Nothing cuter then a shepherd when their ears haven't quiet stood up yet and they flop around.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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Aw adorable and fluffy. Yeah my puppy has a little bit of Australian Shepherd in her... different from the German breed... but white shepherd's are definitely a cool dog.

Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Nothing cuter then a shepherd when their ears haven't quiet stood up yet and they flop around.

yea I know what you mean. The combination of different breeds in our dog, and the Aussie Shepherd in her, give her some funny ears. Funny in that one usually stays flopped, while the other points.. but both can flop and fold forward. She really uses her ears to show her mood and it really makes her personality shine. It's comical in a way, but yeah she's really expressive with her ears. For instance, play time her ears usually stand or one ear stands and the other partially flops... but when she's excited to see someone that she's missed (worked all day, or really adorable when I come home from school) both flop forward and her face kind of takes on a different look.. and she attacks with her tongue. :laugh:
 

zach0624

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Cute dogs. They look pretty healthy. I normally don't call things cute but a puppy is one of rare things I call cute. Our neighbors pitbull had babies recently and came to visit us today. I don't know how old they are but they must be pretty young cause they are very small. Wow better stop before I go on a rant here. :beer:
 

Mloot

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Aug 24, 2002
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Originally posted by: ric0chet06
-massive rep for not adopting.

Why is that? It sounds like the OP knew what he wanted and it also sounds like he got one from a reputable breeder and not someone's back yard puppy mill. Not everyone wants to adopt and I don't see what the problem is here.
 

trmiv

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: ric0chet06
-massive rep for not adopting.

I don't understand the hate for people who buy dogs from breeders. Like Mloot said, this isn't some crappy puppy mill, we are getting this puppy from a reputable small breeder who is very involved in various White Shepherd associations as well as the White Shepherd Genetics Project.

Besides, we already tried adopting a dog from a rescue society and that dog came home to us with distemper. After spending $2000 trying to save him we were unable to. Also, our cat is from a rescue society, and although we love him a lot, he has a genetic heart condition that will kill him before he's 5 most likely. We haven't had great luck with shelters so forgive us if we decided to go a different route.

Originally posted by: tasmanian
Cute puppies, although i would pick Kaiden.

It was a tough decision. I wanted the dog that is now Kaiden, my wife wanted Ronan. You know how all THAT goes. Ronan is a little cutie though, I know we'll love him.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: ric0chet06
-massive rep for not adopting.

I don't understand the hate for people who buy dogs from breeders. Like Mloot said, this isn't some crappy puppy mill, we are getting this puppy from a reputable small breeder who is very involved in various White Shepherd associations as well as the White Shepherd Genetics Project.

Besides, we already tried adopting a dog from a rescue society and that dog came home to us with distemper. After spending $2000 trying to save him we were unable to. Also, our cat is from a rescue society, and although we love him a lot, he has a genetic heart condition that will kill him before he's 5 most likely. We haven't had great luck with shelters so forgive us if we decided to go a different route.

Originally posted by: tasmanian
Cute puppies, although i would pick Kaiden.

It was a tough decision. I wanted the dog that is now Kaiden, my wife wanted Ronan. You know how all THAT goes. Ronan is a little cutie though, I know we'll love him.

The only issue I have with buying from a breeder out of state is not being able to meet the breeder, parents of the puppies, visit the kennel. But most importantly being able to spend the time to select the appropriate puppy. Most reputable breeders would have also had already had all of the puppies spoken for as they don't breed til they have appropriate homes for them.

Did the breeder interview you in order to select the appropriate temperament/personality that would match yours?
 

trmiv

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: ric0chet06
-massive rep for not adopting.

I don't understand the hate for people who buy dogs from breeders. Like Mloot said, this isn't some crappy puppy mill, we are getting this puppy from a reputable small breeder who is very involved in various White Shepherd associations as well as the White Shepherd Genetics Project.

Besides, we already tried adopting a dog from a rescue society and that dog came home to us with distemper. After spending $2000 trying to save him we were unable to. Also, our cat is from a rescue society, and although we love him a lot, he has a genetic heart condition that will kill him before he's 5 most likely. We haven't had great luck with shelters so forgive us if we decided to go a different route.

Originally posted by: tasmanian
Cute puppies, although i would pick Kaiden.

It was a tough decision. I wanted the dog that is now Kaiden, my wife wanted Ronan. You know how all THAT goes. Ronan is a little cutie though, I know we'll love him.

The only issue I have with buying from a breeder out of state is not being able to meet the breeder, parents of the puppies, visit the kennel. But most importantly being able to spend the time to select the appropriate puppy. Most reputable breeders would have also had already had all of the puppies spoken for as they don't breed til they have appropriate homes for them.

Did the breeder interview you in order to select the appropriate temperament/personality that would match yours?

Yes she did. Ronan ended up being perfect for us because of his loving nature. His personality is very similar to how Brody was before he died.

This litter had 9 puppies and all but four were spoken for before they were born. There was also another little born at the same time (they do four litters a year), those were all spoken for. We did a lot of research on various breeders before selecting this one, we liked the family atmosphere they had. You could tell from their info and from talking to them over the phone they really care about every puppy and don't just do this to churn out dogs and make money. One cool thing is they take a ton of pictures and videos of each puppy from birth to the time they leave and include them on a CD. She also emails us pictures every week. The breeder is active in various White Shepherd associations, and participates in the White Shepherd Genetics Project . They also practice Early Neurological Stimulation for all the puppies.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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having a problem with an adoption <> all adoptions are bad. There are more breeders selling dogs that have not been immunized and not weaned properly than you will find with those for adoption.

I was just stating my thoughts that with so many animals out there being put to sleep, it makes no sense to promote breeders unless you are also breeding (which is what everyone claims, but in reality they may have a few litters just to make a couple bucks and not doing any 'breeding' really).

That must of been a hell of a lot of research since it's only been a couple weeks since your last dog.

Anyway, a breeder is going to talk about all the great things in the world in their ads. Very few deliver. Again, not saying your breeder is or is not anything, just the way it usually goes down.

Many dogs bought through breeders end back up for adoption, some breeders will buy their dogs back....many do so at a majorly discounted rate. You can then tell who is in it for the money.
 

Plumcuda1

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Jan 1, 2005
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Good luck with your puppy. The first two nights will be awful. The seperation from his family is not fun to listen to but after the second night he should be fine. Just dont go and comfort him when he cries those first couple nights.

We just a puppy before Christmas .... "Buddy" Here's a picture because I like to show him off. This pic is at 12 weeks I think. He is not 20 weeks and 52 pounds....

http://i144.photobucket.com/al...plumcuda1/Buddy004.jpg
 

trmiv

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
having a problem with an adoption <> all adoptions are bad. There are more breeders selling dogs that have not been immunized and not weaned properly than you will find with those for adoption.

I was just stating my thoughts that with so many animals out there being put to sleep, it makes no sense to promote breeders unless you are also breeding (which is what everyone claims, but in reality they may have a few litters just to make a couple bucks and not doing any 'breeding' really).

That must of been a hell of a lot of research since it's only been a couple weeks since your last dog.

Anyway, a breeder is going to talk about all the great things in the world in their ads. Very few deliver. Again, not saying your breeder is or is not anything, just the way it usually goes down.

Many dogs bought through breeders end back up for adoption, some breeders will buy their dogs back....many do so at a majorly discounted rate. You can then tell who is in it for the money.

OK, I'm wrong, you're right. We're evil people for buying a puppy from a breeder, can you ever forgive us, alkemyst?

 

trmiv

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Plumcuda1
Good luck with your puppy. The first two nights will be awful. The seperation from his family is not fun to listen to but after the second night he should be fine. Just dont go and comfort him when he cries those first couple nights.

We just a puppy before Christmas .... "Buddy" Here's a picture because I like to show him off. This pic is at 12 weeks I think. He is not 20 weeks and 52 pounds....

http://i144.photobucket.com/al...plumcuda1/Buddy004.jpg

He's a cutie. He looks like a brown version of the little guy Brody we had before.

Yea I'm sure the little guy will whine a bit. In the puppy kit we get with him there will be a blanket in a large zip-lock that was with the litter and the mom that we are supposed to put in his crate for a few days to help with the transition.
 

paulxcook

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May 1, 2005
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I didn't realize Brody had died. I know you're moving on and that's good, but I'd still like to extend my condolences on your loss there.

Your new dog looks great, what a little fuzzball :D
 

Born2bwire

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Oct 28, 2005
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Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: alkemyst
having a problem with an adoption <> all adoptions are bad. There are more breeders selling dogs that have not been immunized and not weaned properly than you will find with those for adoption.

I was just stating my thoughts that with so many animals out there being put to sleep, it makes no sense to promote breeders unless you are also breeding (which is what everyone claims, but in reality they may have a few litters just to make a couple bucks and not doing any 'breeding' really).

That must of been a hell of a lot of research since it's only been a couple weeks since your last dog.

Anyway, a breeder is going to talk about all the great things in the world in their ads. Very few deliver. Again, not saying your breeder is or is not anything, just the way it usually goes down.

Many dogs bought through breeders end back up for adoption, some breeders will buy their dogs back....many do so at a majorly discounted rate. You can then tell who is in it for the money.

OK, I'm wrong, you're right. We're evil people for buying a puppy from a breeder, can you ever forgive us, alkemyst?

Obviously, you're going to hell. Just accept it.
 

trmiv

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: alkemyst
having a problem with an adoption <> all adoptions are bad. There are more breeders selling dogs that have not been immunized and not weaned properly than you will find with those for adoption.

I was just stating my thoughts that with so many animals out there being put to sleep, it makes no sense to promote breeders unless you are also breeding (which is what everyone claims, but in reality they may have a few litters just to make a couple bucks and not doing any 'breeding' really).

That must of been a hell of a lot of research since it's only been a couple weeks since your last dog.

Anyway, a breeder is going to talk about all the great things in the world in their ads. Very few deliver. Again, not saying your breeder is or is not anything, just the way it usually goes down.

Many dogs bought through breeders end back up for adoption, some breeders will buy their dogs back....many do so at a majorly discounted rate. You can then tell who is in it for the money.

OK, I'm wrong, you're right. We're evil people for buying a puppy from a breeder, can you ever forgive us, alkemyst?

Obviously, you're going to hell. Just accept it.

With gasoline drawers on to boot.
 

imported_Devine

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Oct 10, 2006
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The dogs only a couple weeks old and already has a tat? Thats one hardcore puppy :) he's really cute btw, good luck.
 

thepd7

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Jan 2, 2005
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Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: ric0chet06
-massive rep for not adopting.

I don't understand the hate for people who buy dogs from breeders. Like Mloot said, this isn't some crappy puppy mill, we are getting this puppy from a reputable small breeder who is very involved in various White Shepherd associations as well as the White Shepherd Genetics Project.

Besides, we already tried adopting a dog from a rescue society and that dog came home to us with distemper. After spending $2000 trying to save him we were unable to. Also, our cat is from a rescue society, and although we love him a lot, he has a genetic heart condition that will kill him before he's 5 most likely. We haven't had great luck with shelters so forgive us if we decided to go a different route.

Originally posted by: tasmanian
Cute puppies, although i would pick Kaiden.

It was a tough decision. I wanted the dog that is now Kaiden, my wife wanted Ronan. You know how all THAT goes. Ronan is a little cutie though, I know we'll love him.

The only issue I have with buying from a breeder out of state is not being able to meet the breeder, parents of the puppies, visit the kennel. But most importantly being able to spend the time to select the appropriate puppy. Most reputable breeders would have also had already had all of the puppies spoken for as they don't breed til they have appropriate homes for them.

Did the breeder interview you in order to select the appropriate temperament/personality that would match yours?

Yes she did. Ronan ended up being perfect for us because of his loving nature. His personality is very similar to how Brody was before he died.

This litter had 9 puppies and all but four were spoken for before they were born. There was also another little born at the same time (they do four litters a year), those were all spoken for. We did a lot of research on various breeders before selecting this one, we liked the family atmosphere they had. You could tell from their info and from talking to them over the phone they really care about every puppy and don't just do this to churn out dogs and make money. One cool thing is they take a ton of pictures and videos of each puppy from birth to the time they leave and include them on a CD. She also emails us pictures every week. The breeder is active in various White Shepherd associations, and participates in the White Shepherd Genetics Project . They also practice Early Neurological Stimulation for all the puppies.

haha, captain? More like captOWNED.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: thepd7
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: ric0chet06
-massive rep for not adopting.

I don't understand the hate for people who buy dogs from breeders. Like Mloot said, this isn't some crappy puppy mill, we are getting this puppy from a reputable small breeder who is very involved in various White Shepherd associations as well as the White Shepherd Genetics Project.

Besides, we already tried adopting a dog from a rescue society and that dog came home to us with distemper. After spending $2000 trying to save him we were unable to. Also, our cat is from a rescue society, and although we love him a lot, he has a genetic heart condition that will kill him before he's 5 most likely. We haven't had great luck with shelters so forgive us if we decided to go a different route.

Originally posted by: tasmanian
Cute puppies, although i would pick Kaiden.

It was a tough decision. I wanted the dog that is now Kaiden, my wife wanted Ronan. You know how all THAT goes. Ronan is a little cutie though, I know we'll love him.

The only issue I have with buying from a breeder out of state is not being able to meet the breeder, parents of the puppies, visit the kennel. But most importantly being able to spend the time to select the appropriate puppy. Most reputable breeders would have also had already had all of the puppies spoken for as they don't breed til they have appropriate homes for them.

Did the breeder interview you in order to select the appropriate temperament/personality that would match yours?

Yes she did. Ronan ended up being perfect for us because of his loving nature. His personality is very similar to how Brody was before he died.

This litter had 9 puppies and all but four were spoken for before they were born. There was also another little born at the same time (they do four litters a year), those were all spoken for. We did a lot of research on various breeders before selecting this one, we liked the family atmosphere they had. You could tell from their info and from talking to them over the phone they really care about every puppy and don't just do this to churn out dogs and make money. One cool thing is they take a ton of pictures and videos of each puppy from birth to the time they leave and include them on a CD. She also emails us pictures every week. The breeder is active in various White Shepherd associations, and participates in the White Shepherd Genetics Project . They also practice Early Neurological Stimulation for all the puppies.

haha, captain? More like captOWNED.

:confused: Reading comprehension ftl. Please ask to get a refund on your education.