Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Massively cute. And they're going to grow up to be real dogs, not ankle-biting pseudo-hamsters. Nice choice, good luck with them.
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Congrats trmiv, I hope this little guy fares better. That was a really sad ordeal before.
Question: Did the breeder guarantee against congenital hip problems? Pure bred Shepards have been known to have such problems.
Yes he is guaranteed. Also, every dog on his pedigree was OFA certified for hips
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Congrats trmiv, I hope this little guy fares better. That was a really sad ordeal before.
Question: Did the breeder guarantee against congenital hip problems? Pure bred Shepards have been known to have such problems.
Yes he is guaranteed. Also, every dog on his pedigree was OFA certified for hips
a guarantee unfortunately is only good as getting another dog or your money back...neither of which are helpful.
While a good start OFA certification doesn't guarantee the pups will.
I'd have adopted a dog personally.
Good luck with the brothers though, it's nice you can at least keep two semi-together.
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Nothing cuter then a shepherd when their ears haven't quiet stood up yet and they flop around.
Originally posted by: ric0chet06
-massive rep for not adopting.
Originally posted by: ric0chet06
-massive rep for not adopting.
Originally posted by: tasmanian
Cute puppies, although i would pick Kaiden.
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: ric0chet06
-massive rep for not adopting.
I don't understand the hate for people who buy dogs from breeders. Like Mloot said, this isn't some crappy puppy mill, we are getting this puppy from a reputable small breeder who is very involved in various White Shepherd associations as well as the White Shepherd Genetics Project.
Besides, we already tried adopting a dog from a rescue society and that dog came home to us with distemper. After spending $2000 trying to save him we were unable to. Also, our cat is from a rescue society, and although we love him a lot, he has a genetic heart condition that will kill him before he's 5 most likely. We haven't had great luck with shelters so forgive us if we decided to go a different route.
Originally posted by: tasmanian
Cute puppies, although i would pick Kaiden.
It was a tough decision. I wanted the dog that is now Kaiden, my wife wanted Ronan. You know how all THAT goes. Ronan is a little cutie though, I know we'll love him.
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: ric0chet06
-massive rep for not adopting.
I don't understand the hate for people who buy dogs from breeders. Like Mloot said, this isn't some crappy puppy mill, we are getting this puppy from a reputable small breeder who is very involved in various White Shepherd associations as well as the White Shepherd Genetics Project.
Besides, we already tried adopting a dog from a rescue society and that dog came home to us with distemper. After spending $2000 trying to save him we were unable to. Also, our cat is from a rescue society, and although we love him a lot, he has a genetic heart condition that will kill him before he's 5 most likely. We haven't had great luck with shelters so forgive us if we decided to go a different route.
Originally posted by: tasmanian
Cute puppies, although i would pick Kaiden.
It was a tough decision. I wanted the dog that is now Kaiden, my wife wanted Ronan. You know how all THAT goes. Ronan is a little cutie though, I know we'll love him.
The only issue I have with buying from a breeder out of state is not being able to meet the breeder, parents of the puppies, visit the kennel. But most importantly being able to spend the time to select the appropriate puppy. Most reputable breeders would have also had already had all of the puppies spoken for as they don't breed til they have appropriate homes for them.
Did the breeder interview you in order to select the appropriate temperament/personality that would match yours?
Originally posted by: alkemyst
having a problem with an adoption <> all adoptions are bad. There are more breeders selling dogs that have not been immunized and not weaned properly than you will find with those for adoption.
I was just stating my thoughts that with so many animals out there being put to sleep, it makes no sense to promote breeders unless you are also breeding (which is what everyone claims, but in reality they may have a few litters just to make a couple bucks and not doing any 'breeding' really).
That must of been a hell of a lot of research since it's only been a couple weeks since your last dog.
Anyway, a breeder is going to talk about all the great things in the world in their ads. Very few deliver. Again, not saying your breeder is or is not anything, just the way it usually goes down.
Many dogs bought through breeders end back up for adoption, some breeders will buy their dogs back....many do so at a majorly discounted rate. You can then tell who is in it for the money.
Originally posted by: Plumcuda1
Good luck with your puppy. The first two nights will be awful. The seperation from his family is not fun to listen to but after the second night he should be fine. Just dont go and comfort him when he cries those first couple nights.
We just a puppy before Christmas .... "Buddy" Here's a picture because I like to show him off. This pic is at 12 weeks I think. He is not 20 weeks and 52 pounds....
http://i144.photobucket.com/al...plumcuda1/Buddy004.jpg
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: alkemyst
having a problem with an adoption <> all adoptions are bad. There are more breeders selling dogs that have not been immunized and not weaned properly than you will find with those for adoption.
I was just stating my thoughts that with so many animals out there being put to sleep, it makes no sense to promote breeders unless you are also breeding (which is what everyone claims, but in reality they may have a few litters just to make a couple bucks and not doing any 'breeding' really).
That must of been a hell of a lot of research since it's only been a couple weeks since your last dog.
Anyway, a breeder is going to talk about all the great things in the world in their ads. Very few deliver. Again, not saying your breeder is or is not anything, just the way it usually goes down.
Many dogs bought through breeders end back up for adoption, some breeders will buy their dogs back....many do so at a majorly discounted rate. You can then tell who is in it for the money.
OK, I'm wrong, you're right. We're evil people for buying a puppy from a breeder, can you ever forgive us, alkemyst?
Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: alkemyst
having a problem with an adoption <> all adoptions are bad. There are more breeders selling dogs that have not been immunized and not weaned properly than you will find with those for adoption.
I was just stating my thoughts that with so many animals out there being put to sleep, it makes no sense to promote breeders unless you are also breeding (which is what everyone claims, but in reality they may have a few litters just to make a couple bucks and not doing any 'breeding' really).
That must of been a hell of a lot of research since it's only been a couple weeks since your last dog.
Anyway, a breeder is going to talk about all the great things in the world in their ads. Very few deliver. Again, not saying your breeder is or is not anything, just the way it usually goes down.
Many dogs bought through breeders end back up for adoption, some breeders will buy their dogs back....many do so at a majorly discounted rate. You can then tell who is in it for the money.
OK, I'm wrong, you're right. We're evil people for buying a puppy from a breeder, can you ever forgive us, alkemyst?
Obviously, you're going to hell. Just accept it.
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: ric0chet06
-massive rep for not adopting.
I don't understand the hate for people who buy dogs from breeders. Like Mloot said, this isn't some crappy puppy mill, we are getting this puppy from a reputable small breeder who is very involved in various White Shepherd associations as well as the White Shepherd Genetics Project.
Besides, we already tried adopting a dog from a rescue society and that dog came home to us with distemper. After spending $2000 trying to save him we were unable to. Also, our cat is from a rescue society, and although we love him a lot, he has a genetic heart condition that will kill him before he's 5 most likely. We haven't had great luck with shelters so forgive us if we decided to go a different route.
Originally posted by: tasmanian
Cute puppies, although i would pick Kaiden.
It was a tough decision. I wanted the dog that is now Kaiden, my wife wanted Ronan. You know how all THAT goes. Ronan is a little cutie though, I know we'll love him.
The only issue I have with buying from a breeder out of state is not being able to meet the breeder, parents of the puppies, visit the kennel. But most importantly being able to spend the time to select the appropriate puppy. Most reputable breeders would have also had already had all of the puppies spoken for as they don't breed til they have appropriate homes for them.
Did the breeder interview you in order to select the appropriate temperament/personality that would match yours?
Yes she did. Ronan ended up being perfect for us because of his loving nature. His personality is very similar to how Brody was before he died.
This litter had 9 puppies and all but four were spoken for before they were born. There was also another little born at the same time (they do four litters a year), those were all spoken for. We did a lot of research on various breeders before selecting this one, we liked the family atmosphere they had. You could tell from their info and from talking to them over the phone they really care about every puppy and don't just do this to churn out dogs and make money. One cool thing is they take a ton of pictures and videos of each puppy from birth to the time they leave and include them on a CD. She also emails us pictures every week. The breeder is active in various White Shepherd associations, and participates in the White Shepherd Genetics Project . They also practice Early Neurological Stimulation for all the puppies.
Originally posted by: thepd7
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: ric0chet06
-massive rep for not adopting.
I don't understand the hate for people who buy dogs from breeders. Like Mloot said, this isn't some crappy puppy mill, we are getting this puppy from a reputable small breeder who is very involved in various White Shepherd associations as well as the White Shepherd Genetics Project.
Besides, we already tried adopting a dog from a rescue society and that dog came home to us with distemper. After spending $2000 trying to save him we were unable to. Also, our cat is from a rescue society, and although we love him a lot, he has a genetic heart condition that will kill him before he's 5 most likely. We haven't had great luck with shelters so forgive us if we decided to go a different route.
Originally posted by: tasmanian
Cute puppies, although i would pick Kaiden.
It was a tough decision. I wanted the dog that is now Kaiden, my wife wanted Ronan. You know how all THAT goes. Ronan is a little cutie though, I know we'll love him.
The only issue I have with buying from a breeder out of state is not being able to meet the breeder, parents of the puppies, visit the kennel. But most importantly being able to spend the time to select the appropriate puppy. Most reputable breeders would have also had already had all of the puppies spoken for as they don't breed til they have appropriate homes for them.
Did the breeder interview you in order to select the appropriate temperament/personality that would match yours?
Yes she did. Ronan ended up being perfect for us because of his loving nature. His personality is very similar to how Brody was before he died.
This litter had 9 puppies and all but four were spoken for before they were born. There was also another little born at the same time (they do four litters a year), those were all spoken for. We did a lot of research on various breeders before selecting this one, we liked the family atmosphere they had. You could tell from their info and from talking to them over the phone they really care about every puppy and don't just do this to churn out dogs and make money. One cool thing is they take a ton of pictures and videos of each puppy from birth to the time they leave and include them on a CD. She also emails us pictures every week. The breeder is active in various White Shepherd associations, and participates in the White Shepherd Genetics Project . They also practice Early Neurological Stimulation for all the puppies.
haha, captain? More like captOWNED.