Getting a little tired of all this politically correct crap!

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I am getting a little tired of all this politically correct crap. You have to be politically correct inorder to speak now. People are rewritting history. History textbooks are rewritten and changed every year to "protect" our children. I think it is doing more harm than good though, becuase they are exagerating the truth, which in many minds is lieing. Everyone knows about Christopher Columbus who came to the Americas, but hardly anyone knows about all the Native Americans he killed, or about the first trade ship he sent back to Europe was all slaves. Schools are banning books like Huck Fin beacuse of 1 word, although i agree that word should not be used, it should not be ignored. Kids should learn why it is wrong, and why not to use it. That word is out there, unfortunetly they will hear it sometime in their life, they might as well know why not to use it. There is a difference between being derogitory(sp) and politically correct. I also have been reading about schools not giving winners, that "everybody is a winner". Wtf kind of crap is that, some one wins, and someone looses. Stop babying todays youth, that is just setting them up to fail. People compete their whole lives, in sports, school, to get a raise, to get a promotion. Is it someones right to recieve a promotion? You have to compete to get it with your fellow workers. All these parents bitching about their childrens "egos"...geez, just a bunch of flanders families.

classic simpsons quote todd:"ahh, my freakin little ears"
 

Cuda1447

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Originally posted by: CheapArse
I am getting a little tired of all this politically correct crap. You have to be politically correct inorder to speak now. People are rewritting history. History textbooks are rewritten and changed every year to "protect" our children. I think it is doing more harm than good though, becuase they are exagerating the truth, which in many minds is lieing. Everyone knows about Christopher Columbus who first came to the Americas, but hardly anyone knows about all the Native Americans he killed, or about the first trade ship he sent back to Europe was all slaves. Schools are banning books like Huck Fin beacuse of 1 word, although i agree that word should not be used, it should not be ignored. Kids should learn why it is wrong, and why not to use it. That word is out there, unfortunetly they will hear it sometime in their life, they might as well know why not to use it. There is a difference between being derogitory(sp) and politically correct. I also have been reading about schools not giving winners, that "everybody is a winner". Wtf kind of crap is that, some one wins, and someone looses. Stop babying todays youth, that is just setting them up to fail. People compete their whole lives, in sports, school, to get a raise, to get a promotion. Is it someones right to recieve a promotion? You have to compete to get it with your fellow workers. All these parents bitching about their childrens "egos"...geez, just a bunch of flanders families.

classic simpsons quote todd:"ahh, my freakin little ears"


I agree.
 
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Hey, I try to be as offensive as possible to make up for all the PC zealots out there.

I need a little help though. :p

- M4H
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Hey, I try to be as offensive as possible to make up for all the PC zealots out there.

I need a little help though. :p

- M4H

You're a dumbass.
 

pyonir

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Hey, I try to be as offensive as possible to make up for all the PC zealots out there.

I need a little help though. :p

- M4H


I'm helping all i can....sheesh, give me SOME credit! ;)
 
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Originally posted by: pyonir
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Hey, I try to be as offensive as possible to make up for all the PC zealots out there.

I need a little help though. :p

- M4H


I'm helping all i can....sheesh, give me SOME credit! ;)

No, you tool.

:D

- M4H
 

cmdavid

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ive got a few friends that are getting a degree in middle childhood education right now, and they actually teach 2 days a week as a student teacher.. they're being taught that they cant tell the students that they're "wrong", just that its a "non-answer"..
for example.. you ask the class, whats 2+2... little suzie says its 5..... the teacher says, "i'm sorry suzie, thats a non-answer."
how DUMB is that??
 

phaserx

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Kind of like that lady who wanted to sue her school because her kids teacher used the word "niggardly" ..

What's this world coming to if you can't even use one word because it sounds similar to what has been classified as an unaccepted word..

The reason why our society is becoming so messed up is because most everyone is looking for reasons to be offended so they can hop on the law suit train and try to be the person who "rewrote history" .. So they're name goes down in history..

It's just a bunch of crap.. what the hell happened to the days where you could give someone a good ol' fashion ass whoopin and not have to worry about going to jail over it?

What happened to the days where you could fondle a females breasts in the work place and not have to worry about a sexual harassment lawsuit? JUST KIDDING.. ;)
 

pyonir

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Originally posted by: sandigga
ive got a few friends that are getting a degree in middle childhood education right now, and they actually teach 2 days a week as a student teacher.. they're being taught that they cant tell the students that they're "wrong", just that its a "non-answer"..
for example.. you ask the class, whats 2+2... little suzie says its 5..... the teacher says, "i'm sorry suzie, thats a non-answer."
how DUMB is that??

hahahaha..i'm going to use that in my next meeting. "No sir...that is a non-answer."

:D
 

Fencer128

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Maybe its all about litigation. PC set up to make it as hard as possible for any money-grabbing individual to find the most obscure reason possible to sue.

I can see it now.

"My little Johnnie was branded a failure at the age of 4, because he was taught that he was 'wrong'"

Andy
 

MaxDSP

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Originally posted by: sandigga
ive got a few friends that are getting a degree in middle childhood education right now, and they actually teach 2 days a week as a student teacher.. they're being taught that they cant tell the students that they're "wrong", just that its a "non-answer"..
for example.. you ask the class, whats 2+2... little suzie says its 5..... the teacher says, "i'm sorry suzie, thats a non-answer."
how DUMB is that??

hahahahhaLMAO
 

Cuda1447

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Originally posted by: sandigga
ive got a few friends that are getting a degree in middle childhood education right now, and they actually teach 2 days a week as a student teacher.. they're being taught that they cant tell the students that they're "wrong", just that its a "non-answer"..
for example.. you ask the class, whats 2+2... little suzie says its 5..... the teacher says, "i'm sorry suzie, thats a non-answer."
how DUMB is that??

No for real Ive noticed that. I take dual enrollment classes for college/highschool. When someone gives a wrong answer I think "No... thats not right..." The professor is always like, "Well not exactly.." or "Sorta but..." And quickly changes the topic. Its ridiculous. Why didn't he just tell her she was wrong? Pfft!

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: phaserx
Kind of like that lady who wanted to sue her school because her kids teacher used the word "niggardly" ..

What school was that? I remember the DC Mayor's aide being fired for using that word, but nothing about a lawsuit aaginst a teacher.

Wait, here's something, is this it? Was a lawsuit filed?

Teacher reprimanded for word choice" (from The Wilmington Star, Star-News Online, 09-04-02)

[Wilmington, North Carolina] "A fourth-grade teacher at Williams Elementary School has received a formal reprimand for teaching her students the word "niggardly," the teacher's son said Tuesday.

"Last week, teacher Stephanie Bell said she used the word "niggardly," which means stingy or miserly, during a discussion about literary characters. But parent Akwana Walker, who is black, protested the use of the word, saying it offended her because it sounds similar to a racial slur.

"Ms. Bell said the N.C. Association of Educators has told her not to talk to anyone about the situation. "I really wish I could," she said.

However, teacher Stephanie Bell's son, Tar Bell, 17, who is not restricted from discussing the incident, according to the Wilmington Star "... said a letter from Principal Susan Hahn stated that his mother used poor judgment. The letter, he said, also instructed his mother to send an apology to her students' parents, a step she took last week. The letter, which Mr. Bell said he has read, also admonished Ms. Bell, who is white, for lacking sensitivity to the school's diverse population of students and not being aware of cultural differences, he said."

The teacher's son, Tar Bell, reported to the Wilmington Star that the letter also required his mother to attend sensitivity training and threatened that if she did not she could face further action.

"In addition to the letter, Ms. Walker's [black] daughter was moved to another class, and Ms. Bell agreed not to use the word again with her students.

"Deputy Superintendent Norm Shearin reiterated that Ms. Bell made a bad decision when she taught her students the word "niggardly." It was an inappropriate word to teach children at that grade level, he said.

"... [T]he Wilmington Star-News has received more than 100 e-mails from readers across the country. In addition, more than 120 people commented in an online forum and more than 1,200 have voted in an online poll. The response, although in no way a scientific sampling, has been overwhelmingly supportive of Ms. Bell.

"... Tannis Nelson, president of the N.C. Parent-Teacher Association and a New Hanover County resident, ... added that this incident shows the need for effective diversity and sensitivity training throughout the school system. "Incidents such as this can polarize the community," Mrs. Nelson said. "We can't allow that to happen. This can be captured as a teachable moment, and we can learn from it."
 

phaserx

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Originally posted by: sandigga
ive got a few friends that are getting a degree in middle childhood education right now, and they actually teach 2 days a week as a student teacher.. they're being taught that they cant tell the students that they're "wrong", just that its a "non-answer"..
for example.. you ask the class, whats 2+2... little suzie says its 5..... the teacher says, "i'm sorry suzie, thats a non-answer."
how DUMB is that??

can they say "i'm sorry that's incorrect"? Instead of saying "nope, wrong!"
 
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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Hey, I try to be as offensive as possible to make up for all the PC zealots out there.

I need a little help though. :p

- M4H

You're a dumbass.

yu0

Thanks folks. Every little bit of offensiveness helps. :D

- M4H

you

So I get to tag that sweet redheaded piece of ass that is Donna? That's fair. :D

To keep with the trend:

yu0 :D

- M4H
 

feralkid

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Just by ranting on the internet, you've already done more than your share to make the world a better place.








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yoda291

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Originally posted by: phaserx
Kind of like that lady who wanted to sue her school because her kids teacher used the word "niggardly" ..

What's this world coming to if you can't even use one word because it sounds similar to what has been classified as an unaccepted word..

The reason why our society is becoming so messed up is because most everyone is looking for reasons to be offended so they can hop on the law suit train and try to be the person who "rewrote history" .. So they're name goes down in history..

It's just a bunch of crap.. what the hell happened to the days where you could give someone a good ol' fashion ass whoopin and not have to worry about going to jail over it?

What happened to the days where you could fondle a females breasts in the work place and not have to worry about a sexual harassment lawsuit? JUST KIDDING.. ;)

Someone abused the privilege and now no one can do it. It's just that simple. Personally, I don't like where the feminists are going. According to them, I'm an old fashioned oppressive pig for having manners! Grr, I'm scared to open car doors for women now, lest I get slapped with a harrassment charge.

I think the reason that everything gets rewritten is because anyone can bitch about anything, but no one wants to do anything but bitch about it, so it's the gov't that gets left with the tab. If you don't like teachers telling YOUR kid he's wrong, then you go fscking teach him yourself and stop making the educator's job harder. Literally, I get pissed EVERY time I attend a bd of ed meeting. Honestly some of the things you hear is astonishing.

Examples:
"An aggressive adoption of technology would be far more harmful to the student body than helpful" - Discussing replacing a lab of 386s with something a little more modern.

"The library is sufficient for the students as it is" - regarding increasing budget for books.

"We are committed to curbing non-traditional teaching methods during inclement weather" -- regarding one teacher's conducting weather experiments during december.

"Our children must have every opportunity to enhance the student body's spirit" -- regarding upping the football team budget.

AAAHHHH! -- god, why don't they just say, "We don't care about this damn school, so what do you want to get off our backs?"
 

phaserx

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: phaserx
Kind of like that lady who wanted to sue her school because her kids teacher used the word "niggardly" ..

What school was that? I remember the DC Mayor's aide being fired for using that word, but nothing about a lawsuit aaginst a teacher.

Wait, here's something, is this it? Was a lawsuit filed?

Teacher reprimanded for word choice" (from The Wilmington Star, Star-News Online, 09-04-02)

[Wilmington, North Carolina] "A fourth-grade teacher at Williams Elementary School has received a formal reprimand for teaching her students the word "niggardly," the teacher's son said Tuesday.

"Last week, teacher Stephanie Bell said she used the word "niggardly," which means stingy or miserly, during a discussion about literary characters. But parent Akwana Walker, who is black, protested the use of the word, saying it offended her because it sounds similar to a racial slur.

"Ms. Bell said the N.C. Association of Educators has told her not to talk to anyone about the situation. "I really wish I could," she said.

However, teacher Stephanie Bell's son, Tar Bell, 17, who is not restricted from discussing the incident, according to the Wilmington Star "... said a letter from Principal Susan Hahn stated that his mother used poor judgment. The letter, he said, also instructed his mother to send an apology to her students' parents, a step she took last week. The letter, which Mr. Bell said he has read, also admonished Ms. Bell, who is white, for lacking sensitivity to the school's diverse population of students and not being aware of cultural differences, he said."

The teacher's son, Tar Bell, reported to the Wilmington Star that the letter also required his mother to attend sensitivity training and threatened that if she did not she could face further action.

"In addition to the letter, Ms. Walker's [black] daughter was moved to another class, and Ms. Bell agreed not to use the word again with her students.

"Deputy Superintendent Norm Shearin reiterated that Ms. Bell made a bad decision when she taught her students the word "niggardly." It was an inappropriate word to teach children at that grade level, he said.

"... [T]he Wilmington Star-News has received more than 100 e-mails from readers across the country. In addition, more than 120 people commented in an online forum and more than 1,200 have voted in an online poll. The response, although in no way a scientific sampling, has been overwhelmingly supportive of Ms. Bell.

"... Tannis Nelson, president of the N.C. Parent-Teacher Association and a New Hanover County resident, ... added that this incident shows the need for effective diversity and sensitivity training throughout the school system. "Incidents such as this can polarize the community," Mrs. Nelson said. "We can't allow that to happen. This can be captured as a teachable moment, and we can learn from it."

That was it.. maybe a lawsuit wasn't filed, but i thought i heard different.. Ohh well.. It's just bizzare ..