Getting a little tired of all this politically correct crap!

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Zebo

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Go work as an aide to Lott, I'm sure you'd fit right in with that ni**er in a woodpile;)

a ni**er in the woodpile (or fence) N: a concealed motive or unknown factor affecting a situation in an adverse way. orig. U.S.
 

Spyro

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I agree with the first post.

I heard of a school district recently that is changing their scoring such that the lowest mark is a 50%. You heard that right. It's impossible, no matter how brain dead you are, to get less than a 50% on anything.

I'm only 25 so I can't say how trends are going and I know that old people love to go "In the good old days such and such", but I don't believe that the sort of whiney, blaming, me-me-me attitudes that we see in so much of the populous was so prevalent years ago. People sueing Mcdonalds because they got fat; everyone looking to blame somebody else.

And you treat kids like infinitely fragile crystal glasses and when they're dropped the first time they'll shatter.

Well said, I'm wondering how long it will take before this kind of practice spreads everywhere. When in the last couple of decades or so did this kind of crap start happening anyway. :confused: I could have sworn it wasn't always like this.....

Who is to be blamed parents, government, teachers, TV, communists????
 

friedpie

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I still need to pick up Bias, Slander, and Shakedown, among others. Too much to read for class, not enough time to read for fun.

Bias is OK, Slander is not that great. Ann can be too heavy handed. Shakedown was great. Jesse is such a phony, it is unreal!

Pick up a copy of
The Myths That Divide Us. An absolutely amazing book.

I also liked Horowitz's book Uncivil Wars. This is the book that made leftists on campus apoplectic.

 

Dark54555

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Originally posted by: wizardLRU
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I agree with the first post.

I heard of a school district recently that is changing their scoring such that the lowest mark is a 50%. You heard that right. It's impossible, no matter how brain dead you are, to get less than a 50% on anything.

I'm only 25 so I can't say how trends are going and I know that old people love to go "In the good old days such and such", but I don't believe that the sort of whiney, blaming, me-me-me attitudes that we see in so much of the populous was so prevalent years ago. People sueing Mcdonalds because they got fat; everyone looking to blame somebody else.

And you treat kids like infinitely fragile crystal glasses and when they're dropped the first time they'll shatter.

Well said, I'm wondering how long it will take before this kind of practice spreads everywhere. When in the last couple of decades or so did this kind of crap start happening anyway. :confused: I could have sworn it wasn't always like this.....

Who is to be blamed parents, government, teachers, TV, communists????

Who is to be blamed?
Answer: Liberals.

 

Quixfire

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Quixfire
In the PC world I am considered a MAC.

I think that makes you an artsy left brain hippie tree hugger or something.
I'm more like a bible thumping, gun toting, wife stays at home, gas guzzling vehicle driving redneck. And I have the red hair on my neck to prove it.

 

Moonbeam

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Humanity is sick and upside down to reality. Competition is hostility. Hostility is hate. Hate arises out of duality, the punishment of evil, the rewarding of good, and the identification of the split in identity between the suppression of the true self as evil and the lelvation promotion and greedy lusting for attention praise reward accomplishment and glorification of the ego as a surrogate satisfaction to real self love. In reverse, the illusion of duality, the false belief that our original and true nature is evil creates the egotistical competer who strives for a false reward that is of no real value. The uslessness of such a life breeds hate contempt and the will to victory, all based on an inner sickness or delusion.

Trying to stamp out that hate, that delusion by pretending it doesn't manifest in every aspect of our society while a step in the direction of healty is doomed ultimately to failure also. The feelings of worthlessness are deeply rooted and not so easy to remove. Still, when you see the intention you can put it in perspective. Seeing that everything we have based our self worth on is sick instead of some grand achievement allows one to deflate ones ego a bit and not feel so threatened by every passing fad. To know that there isn't aqnything wrong with anybody except that they are trapped in the illusion of duality helps too. We are all the same and there's nothing to do but love.
 

Dark54555

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Originally posted by: friedpie
I still need to pick up Bias, Slander, and Shakedown, among others. Too much to read for class, not enough time to read for fun.

Bias is OK, Slander is not that great. Ann can be too heavy handed. Shakedown was great. Jesse is such a phony, it is unreal!

Pick up a copy of
The Myths That Divide Us. An absolutely amazing book.

I also liked Horowitz's book Uncivil Wars. This is the book that made leftists on campus apoplectic.

I had to read Ironies of Affirmative Action for a class. Although a tad leftist, a little thought shows the whole policy is total garbage. Lots of interesting facts about AA.
 

Moonbeam

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It would be right brained hippie, by the way. The right brain represents the hemisphere that grasps the big picture, siezes at a glance the total gestalt. It is the left brain that is the source of duality. It's the brain that differentiates and sees in parts.
 
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moonbeam: whether or not competition is right or wrong or granting "evil" is beside the point. It is a part of life, and to shield kids from reality is wrong. If you dont set up children for the real world, they will not be prepared. This is a good part of the reason for school, to prepare and educate kids for life on their own. If they know nothing but "winning" then they are that less prepared for the future. And wtf is that "non-answer" crap, i would never put a kid throught that system.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: CheapArse
moonbeam: whether or not competition is right or wrong or granting "evil" is beside the point. It is a part of life, and to shield kids from reality is wrong. If you dont set up children for the real world, they will not be prepared. This is a good part of the reason for school, to prepare and educate kids for life on their own. If they know nothing but "winning" then they are that less prepared for the future. And wtf is that "non-answer" crap, i would never put a kid throught that system.

How old are you? In my 15 years of working I have NEVER seen the best qualified or hardest working rise to top or get the sweet promotions. It's always been about politics and always will be hence the term "politically correct". Those who are (plus kissing some ass helps with some bosses) get ahaed those who are neanderthals are locked in to thier position perferably away from the public.

 
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im not saying that competition is the only thing that prepares a child for the future, its is in fact just a small part. Im just saying dont try to get rid of competition. Agreed, the best qualified does not always get a job. But that also adds to my point that, your in competition, so if one person does more ass-kissing :) than another then he/she recieves the promotion, that is a form of competition.
 

Spyro

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Originally posted by: Dark54555
Originally posted by: wizardLRU
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I agree with the first post.

I heard of a school district recently that is changing their scoring such that the lowest mark is a 50%. You heard that right. It's impossible, no matter how brain dead you are, to get less than a 50% on anything.

I'm only 25 so I can't say how trends are going and I know that old people love to go "In the good old days such and such", but I don't believe that the sort of whiney, blaming, me-me-me attitudes that we see in so much of the populous was so prevalent years ago. People sueing Mcdonalds because they got fat; everyone looking to blame somebody else.

And you treat kids like infinitely fragile crystal glasses and when they're dropped the first time they'll shatter.

Well said, I'm wondering how long it will take before this kind of practice spreads everywhere. When in the last couple of decades or so did this kind of crap start happening anyway. :confused: I could have sworn it wasn't always like this.....

Who is to be blamed parents, government, teachers, TV, communists????

Who is to be blamed?
Answer: Liberals.

R u sure about that?
 

Moonbeam

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If professional ass kissing is what you hope for personally and for your kids, what can I say?
 

Drekce

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Liberals are killing this country! You aren't allowed to do anything anymore in the name of offending someone.
 

Dark54555

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Originally posted by: wizardLRU
Originally posted by: Dark54555
Originally posted by: wizardLRU
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I agree with the first post.

I heard of a school district recently that is changing their scoring such that the lowest mark is a 50%. You heard that right. It's impossible, no matter how brain dead you are, to get less than a 50% on anything.

I'm only 25 so I can't say how trends are going and I know that old people love to go "In the good old days such and such", but I don't believe that the sort of whiney, blaming, me-me-me attitudes that we see in so much of the populous was so prevalent years ago. People sueing Mcdonalds because they got fat; everyone looking to blame somebody else.

And you treat kids like infinitely fragile crystal glasses and when they're dropped the first time they'll shatter.

Well said, I'm wondering how long it will take before this kind of practice spreads everywhere. When in the last couple of decades or so did this kind of crap start happening anyway. :confused: I could have sworn it wasn't always like this.....

Who is to be blamed parents, government, teachers, TV, communists????

Who is to be blamed?
Answer: Liberals.

R u sure about that?

Positive. I'm surrounded by them in college, they're all into this bullshit.

 

yowolabi

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Originally posted by: CheapArse
moonbeam: whether or not competition is right or wrong or granting "evil" is beside the point. It is a part of life, and to shield kids from reality is wrong. If you dont set up children for the real world, they will not be prepared. This is a good part of the reason for school, to prepare and educate kids for life on their own. If they know nothing but "winning" then they are that less prepared for the future. And wtf is that "non-answer" crap, i would never put a kid throught that system.

I don't believe that in order to be happy, then someone else has to be unhappy. I don't believe that in order for me to "win" someone else has to lose.

What is this "real world" you speak of? The one where everyone fights each other in order to achieve material gain which in turn leads to happiness? I've been in the real world for a while, and I don't belive losing is an integral part of life. If you see life as a "me against everyone else" kind of thing, then you probably do encounter some winning and a lot of losing. If however, you see life as "follow my own path to happiness" and don't have it dictated to you, then I can attest that you can always "win". By teaching children about the viciousness of the real world, you're actually creating that vicious world for them.

"Non answer" is ridiculous, but that doesn't mean it has to be replaced by "wrong". In teaching kids, I believe the best method is to make sure that they understand the steps as you go along with any subject. Then when they get something wrong, you can use the socratic method to help them to see their errors and learn how to self-correct. This works great for me, but of course that is always in one to one tutoring or in a very small group.
 

Moonbeam

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As to the question of liberal vs conservative in this regard the truth is a third way. The two are polarized along a continium something like this. Liberals see the damage caused by hostility and competition in children and conservatives see the damage of not being competative. One wants to reduce competativeness and the other increase it. The answer is not to reduce or increase it. The answer is to transcend it by understanding it at its source. How in hell can you compete with a person who has left his self behind, who has found the source of satisfaction within himself. Such a mind becomse at cause, no longer a leaf in the breeze. Such a mind can change the world some say.
 

Moonbeam

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Sadly a conservative is generally somebody who is temporarily winning at the status quo. They aren't actually conserving, always, what is good, only what has been good for them. PC represents a new game they are poorly equipped to play so they hate it. Same with making room at the top for minorities and women. It's the limited pie theory of life. I got a nice piece and you aren't getting any of mine.

I think that game theory shows that cooperation leads to win win and a bigger pie. To play well though you need for your ego to die, to let go of selfish greed long enough to see the posibilities. It's tough when you feel worthless.
 

Spyro

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Originally posted by: Dark54555
Originally posted by: wizardLRU
Originally posted by: Dark54555
Originally posted by: wizardLRU
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I agree with the first post.

I heard of a school district recently that is changing their scoring such that the lowest mark is a 50%. You heard that right. It's impossible, no matter how brain dead you are, to get less than a 50% on anything.

I'm only 25 so I can't say how trends are going and I know that old people love to go "In the good old days such and such", but I don't believe that the sort of whiney, blaming, me-me-me attitudes that we see in so much of the populous was so prevalent years ago. People sueing Mcdonalds because they got fat; everyone looking to blame somebody else.

And you treat kids like infinitely fragile crystal glasses and when they're dropped the first time they'll shatter.

Well said, I'm wondering how long it will take before this kind of practice spreads everywhere. When in the last couple of decades or so did this kind of crap start happening anyway. :confused: I could have sworn it wasn't always like this.....

Who is to be blamed parents, government, teachers, TV, communists????

Who is to be blamed?
Answer: Liberals.

R u sure about that?

Positive. I'm surrounded by them in college, they're all into this bullshit.

OK, I think I can identify with you there.
 

Spyro

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Sadly a conservative is generally somebody who is temporarily winning at the status quo. They aren't actually conserving, always, what is good, only what has been good for them. PC represents a new game they are poorly equipped to play so they hate it. Same with making room at the top for minorities and women. It's the limited pie theory of life. I got a nice piece and you aren't getting any of mine.

I think that game theory shows that cooperation leads to win win and a bigger pie. To play well though you need for your ego to die, to let go of selfish greed long enough to see the posibilities. It's tough when you feel worthless.

:D

"Moonbeam" == "fortune-mod"
 

Dark54555

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Originally posted by: wizardLRU
Originally posted by: Dark54555
Originally posted by: wizardLRU
Originally posted by: Dark54555
Originally posted by: wizardLRU
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I agree with the first post.

I heard of a school district recently that is changing their scoring such that the lowest mark is a 50%. You heard that right. It's impossible, no matter how brain dead you are, to get less than a 50% on anything.

I'm only 25 so I can't say how trends are going and I know that old people love to go "In the good old days such and such", but I don't believe that the sort of whiney, blaming, me-me-me attitudes that we see in so much of the populous was so prevalent years ago. People sueing Mcdonalds because they got fat; everyone looking to blame somebody else.

And you treat kids like infinitely fragile crystal glasses and when they're dropped the first time they'll shatter.

Well said, I'm wondering how long it will take before this kind of practice spreads everywhere. When in the last couple of decades or so did this kind of crap start happening anyway. :confused: I could have sworn it wasn't always like this.....

Who is to be blamed parents, government, teachers, TV, communists????

Who is to be blamed?
Answer: Liberals.

R u sure about that?

Positive. I'm surrounded by them in college, they're all into this bullshit.

OK, I think I can identify with you there.

hooray for UT, the only place in Texas where librals outnumber conservatives
rolleye.gif
 

Spyro

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Originally posted by: Dark54555
Originally posted by: wizardLRU
Originally posted by: Dark54555
Originally posted by: wizardLRU
Originally posted by: Dark54555
Originally posted by: wizardLRU
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I agree with the first post.

I heard of a school district recently that is changing their scoring such that the lowest mark is a 50%. You heard that right. It's impossible, no matter how brain dead you are, to get less than a 50% on anything.

I'm only 25 so I can't say how trends are going and I know that old people love to go "In the good old days such and such", but I don't believe that the sort of whiney, blaming, me-me-me attitudes that we see in so much of the populous was so prevalent years ago. People sueing Mcdonalds because they got fat; everyone looking to blame somebody else.

And you treat kids like infinitely fragile crystal glasses and when they're dropped the first time they'll shatter.

Well said, I'm wondering how long it will take before this kind of practice spreads everywhere. When in the last couple of decades or so did this kind of crap start happening anyway. :confused: I could have sworn it wasn't always like this.....

Who is to be blamed parents, government, teachers, TV, communists????

Who is to be blamed?
Answer: Liberals.

R u sure about that?

Positive. I'm surrounded by them in college, they're all into this bullshit.

OK, I think I can identify with you there.

hooray for UT, the only place in Texas where librals outnumber conservatives
rolleye.gif

Ehhh!!!! Crap, and I was thinking about going to that place. :p
 

Moonbeam

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Why not stay home. Exposing yourself to other ideas is terrifying. You might grow.