theeedude
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You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. I did not call you out, you called me out, so if anyone is trolling it's you. :roll: You called PETA and ASPCA, maybe you should have called the vet and find out if there were any actual injuries before you call for this guy's prosecution.
You've been to jail and you hang out on 4chan.
Seriously, in just about every thread you post in you come off as being a total scumbag. Whether it's about stealing, relationships with women, or just about anything you reveal yourself to be slimy. It doesn't surprise me at all that you've been to jail. You're devious, untrustworthy, and make poor decisions.
Your prior stay in jail probably won't be the last time you stay there. It's where people like you belong.
- Feb 13, 2001
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Did I say I didn't call the vet? I spoke to both PETA and ASPCA directly prior to the animal being picked up. :roll: Please read and then re-read if you have trouble understanding.
I am speaking from facts, you are only guessing. Like I said, pick up the fucking phone and get the facts. The animal's treatment was deemed abuse. They cannot give much more than that, if it was not abused it would not be in custody. If it were not abused, the police would not have been involved. If it were not abused, the DA would not have a case on it's agenda. These are all facts, there is no need for OPINION.
For anyone here to say they have any doubt that the animal was abused, either they didn't watch the video, read the press releases, acknowledge that law enforcement is STILL involved in this or are simply psychopathic themselves. Outside of that only leaves trolling. So please pick one.
- Feb 13, 2001
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I am sorry I have hurt your feelings and brought up the fact that although you make claims to be 'well-schooled' you are not. Don't take your short-comings out on me.
I am pretty adamant against stealing, even the moderators here know that...whether it's abusing a return program or finding an open vending machine.
What has been wrong about my relationship advice about women? I don't believe you can change anyone and if things are going south it's time to be honest and move on.
Slimy? wow. Jail?
I would try to avoid getting libelous though. Really I would.
You are logically wrong on almost all of your points. The cornerstone of your argument seems to be that the police wouldn't have got involved or taken the animal into custody if it hadn't already been determined that there was wrongdoing.
However that's incorrect.
The police will arrest people or gather evidence on suspicion of wrongdoing. It doesn't mean that it has been determined. Police often detain people or confiscate evidence based on suspicion of illegal acts and to see if they can build a case. If they can't, they release the people/evidence.
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This wasn't a case where the kids were arrested then just released.
Again there is no doubt abuse took place. Do you know what you are arguing?
The doubt is whether or not the DA will go the distance on this case or not now. You HAVE TO BE TROLLING. Go and read, make some phone calls. Look into getting into a college or something productive.
I take it that the people saying this is no big deal have never read the studies linking animal abuse by young people to mental illness, and to criminal behavior in later years?
(Yes, yes, innocent until proven guilty, but having dealt with other abused animals, I am inclined to agree with the analysis by Amused. We shall see what the courts say, though.)
Props to the /b/tards/.
(Yes, yes, innocent until proven guilty, but having dealt with other abused animals, I am inclined to agree with the analysis by Amused. We shall see what the courts say, though.)
Props to the /b/tards/.
Alkemyst,
You seem to be attacking people for withholding judgment on this guy's guilt or innocence. You seem to expect everyone to hop on the bandwagon and rail against this video even when it hasn't been determined that any laws have been broken. You are reacting purely on emotion and you don't seem to have any ability to exercise rational thought once you're wound up. Each time someone challenges you, you try to state your opinion as fact and end the conversation, even when your argument is weak. You have a primitive, unrefined thought process.
And about that thought process...
Earlier I said that I'm an intellectual. You instantly went off on some crazy tangent about school.
Intellectual: of or relating to the intellect or its use: developed or chiefly guided by the intellect rather than by emotion or experience.
This is purely the opposite of what you're doing. While a few posters on this thread aim to stay level-headed and choose to gather more information to make an informed decision rather than getting emotional, you are pure emotion. An anti-intellectual.
You seem to be attacking people for withholding judgment on this guy's guilt or innocence. You seem to expect everyone to hop on the bandwagon and rail against this video even when it hasn't been determined that any laws have been broken. You are reacting purely on emotion and you don't seem to have any ability to exercise rational thought once you're wound up. Each time someone challenges you, you try to state your opinion as fact and end the conversation, even when your argument is weak. You have a primitive, unrefined thought process.
And about that thought process...
Earlier I said that I'm an intellectual. You instantly went off on some crazy tangent about school.
Intellectual: of or relating to the intellect or its use: developed or chiefly guided by the intellect rather than by emotion or experience.
This is purely the opposite of what you're doing. While a few posters on this thread aim to stay level-headed and choose to gather more information to make an informed decision rather than getting emotional, you are pure emotion. An anti-intellectual.
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so what part of the videos did YOU find not abusive to the cat?
It's like saying Al Capone was innocent of being a mobster and the only thing he did wrong was not pay his taxes.
I think you have a problem understanding what a verdict of guilty is versus someone being acquitted versus someone being innocent versus someone doing something wrong.
The presumption of innocence is something really for the courts and those that do not have knowledge of the crime. If I am on a street and I see someone face to face and they shoot me. I know for a fact they are guilty. Others that saw them know for a fact they are guilty. In the eyes of the court they are not until they stand trial. To someone that didn't see what happened they should be innocent too.
We saw what this kid did. Regardless of whether his blows were light or strong, there is no denying it was the mistreatment of an animal - abuse. There is no debate. This was not special effects, Lucas Studios, etc. It was two kids doing bad things to a pet.
Michael Vick was stripped of his shit long before he was found truly guilty of dog fighting, were you defending him too?
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You are describing an arm-chair quarterback and hashing semantics.
Intellect would tell you to I am seeing something that is wrong...I think I need to look deeper, do some research, pick up the phone, and verify. Which is what I have already stated, have done, and followed up on.
Since you know so much about me you should also know my first undergrad was in Zoology, that I have worked for a vet, and that I am fairly damn active with animals and their charities.
I'd think I'd have a bit of insight into this which is further driven by knowledge of what is considered ethical treatment of a pet.
I think you added that "or experience" line yourself...are you saying knowledge is inherent? This could get interesting if so.
Nowhere in any of my posts did I say anything about you getting shot. You brought up that hypothetical situation.
I am guessing then searched based on his YouTube ID, and came up with matches against his FaceBook and MySpace, and went from there.
I too am a cat owner, and watched to see if it was as bad as claimed. I too cried. This is behavior that leads to becoming a serial killer.
would be interesting to know how the parents are dealing with it right now. its definitely going to affect their day to day jobs no matter the outcome.
Would you also call this torture?
Cat Washer
It also involves water and a scared cat. In fact, the cat in this video looks more scared in the "torture" video.
Cat Washer
It also involves water and a scared cat. In fact, the cat in this video looks more scared in the "torture" video.
Brigandier
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- Feb 12, 2008
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Is it abuse if I give my cat a bath? Because my cat got sprayed by a skunk this summer and I gave it like three baths. Yes, he was pissed off.
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