Germany Struggles To Integrate 1 Million Refugees

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realibrad

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42557828

The report used statistics from Lower Saxony - regarded as an average state - where police saw an increase of 10.4% in reported violent crimes in 2015 and 2016.

Based on figures from the state's interior ministry, which keeps a separate record of alleged crimes by migrants, the report suggested that 92.1% of this increase was attributable to migrants.

Lower Saxony has seen a significant increase in arrivals of migrants in recent years.

But also this.

But it said that many male migrants fell into the 14-30 age category, the most likely to commit violent crime.

So, violent crime going up 10% is a big deal. Germany has low rates to start with, but that is a surge regardless. It should also be kept in mind that these are young men, and, young men commit more crime. The total migrant crime went up 50%. Those are worrying numbers, but the Government looks to be trying to slow it down. So its a big deal, but, not an emergency.
 

theeedude

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Conservatives have nothing to offer America, moving on to solving other countries' problems.
 

1prophet

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Bullshit! Germany is not struggling at all to integrate refugees. Germany overall is doing a great job and proving that they can in fact do it.

Indeed, they are doing a great job bringing in a new form of antisemitism, the right wingers they have in their country weren't bad enough so let's bring in middle eastern religious right type wackos to complement them while apologetic liberals defend homophobic, misogynistic, sky fairy believing refugees while throwing gays, Jews and women under the bus in the name of politically correct multiculturalism.

German Jewish Community Leader Warns Followers against Wearing Kippahs in Public

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...s-followers-against-wearing-kippah-in-public/

“We have a new phenomenon, as we have many refugees among whom there are, for example, people of Arab origin who bring another form of anti-Semitism into the country,” Merkel told the Channel 10. “The fact that no kindergarten, no school, no synagogue can be left without police protection dismays us.”

The 19-year-old perpetrator of last week’s attack in Berlin is a Syrian refugee living in a shelter for migrants outside the city. He turned himself into police Friday. A video of the incident shows him beating two Jewish men with a belt while yelling “Yahudi,” the Arabic word for “Jew.”


Anti-Semitic attacks have been on the rise in Germany in recent years; the number of individuals affected rose 55 percent in 2017, according to The Department for Research and Information on Anti-Semitism, a Berlin-based NGO.

Merkel’s detractors point to her liberal immigration policies, which led to roughly 1 million asylum seekers crossing the border in 2015, as the primary factor in the nationwide spike in anti-Semitic hate crimes


Kind of like saying you shouldn't wear a skirt if you don't want to be raped

My bad they already did that


Bavarian school warns girls should dress ‘modestly,’ due to Syrian refugees nearby https://www.rt.com/news/270214-bavaria-muslim-school-clothes/

Fury in German town after mayor tells families to keep their children away from migrants to avoid 'provoking them' when they wear fewer clothes in the summer
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...void-provoking-wear-fewer-clothes-summer.html

Cologne New Year gang assaults: Mayor says women should have code of conduct to prevent future assault
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...nduct-to-prevent-future-assault-a6798186.html




Hard to decide what is more pathetic, women being told to cover up or have a code of conduct so they don't provoke sexual assault or apologist liberals excusing the sexual assaulting refugees due to multiculturalism in this Me-too era.

 
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Meghan54

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Indeed, they are doing a great job bringing in a new form of antisemitism, the right wingers they have in their country weren't bad enough so let's bring in middle eastern religious right type wackos to complement them while apologetic liberals defend homophobic, misogynistic, sky fairy believing refugees while throwing gays, Jews and women under the bus in the name of politically correct multiculturalism.

German Jewish Community Leader Warns Followers against Wearing Kippahs in Public

https://www.nationalreview.com/news...s-followers-against-wearing-kippah-in-public/

“We have a new phenomenon, as we have many refugees among whom there are, for example, people of Arab origin who bring another form of anti-Semitism into the country,” Merkel told the Channel 10. “The fact that no kindergarten, no school, no synagogue can be left without police protection dismays us.”

The 19-year-old perpetrator of last week’s attack in Berlin is a Syrian refugee living in a shelter for migrants outside the city. He turned himself into police Friday. A video of the incident shows him beating two Jewish men with a belt while yelling “Yahudi,” the Arabic word for “Jew.”


Anti-Semitic attacks have been on the rise in Germany in recent years; the number of individuals affected rose 55 percent in 2017, according to The Department for Research and Information on Anti-Semitism, a Berlin-based NGO.

Merkel’s detractors point to her liberal immigration policies, which led to roughly 1 million asylum seekers crossing the border in 2015, as the primary factor in the nationwide spike in anti-Semitic hate crimes


Kind of like saying you shouldn't wear a skirt if you don't want to be raped

My bad they already did that


Bavarian school warns girls should dress ‘modestly,’ due to Syrian refugees nearby https://www.rt.com/news/270214-bavaria-muslim-school-clothes/

Fury in German town after mayor tells families to keep their children away from migrants to avoid 'provoking them' when they wear fewer clothes in the summer
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...void-provoking-wear-fewer-clothes-summer.html

Cologne New Year gang assaults: Mayor says women should have code of conduct to prevent future assault
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...nduct-to-prevent-future-assault-a6798186.html




Hard to decide what is more pathetic, women being told to cover up or have a code of conduct so they don't provoke sexual assault or apologist liberals excusing the sexual assaulting refugees due to multiculturalism in this Me-too era.


I think you need a larger font, more colors and bolder bold.....
 

cytg111

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"Tagesspiegel daily, citing government figures, has reported that four antisemitic crimes were reported on average per day last year, around the same level as in 2016. The majority - 1,377 of 1,452 - were committed by right-wing radicals."

https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Anti...e-over-antisemitism-before-kippa-march-552737

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...s-afd-europe-immigration-merkel-radical-right

And when they grow big enough, that is when your country is ripe for Bannonism and Trumpism.. As it turns out, shutting down the influx of refugees has less to do with the actual refugees but rather the growing threat from within. Sad.
 

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Refugees aren't supposed to integrate overnight. Remember, the ideal outcome would be some measure of peace and stability in Syria/Libya/Sudan so that these people can return home.

We in the US are very, very lucky to have vast oceans and friendly neighbors on all our borders.

I'd be curious to know what your proposed solution be? If you were a German Chancellor, would you rather spend billions on a war for regime change, or millions on a refugee program? Or would you rather do nothing and let the Middle East go to Hell?

I thought we had the UN for shit like this? Why can't we set up refugee camps in the Middle East, and ensure they are protected and cared for? Then let the animals fight it out.

Also, your "Option C" might not be all that bad. I thought people were tired of the US trying to police the world. I know I am. Why should Germany have to fix someone else's mess? It's a bit cold for sure, but maybe Germany should do what's best for Germany?
 
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shortylickens

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In the Arab and/or Muslim community, what qualifies as liberal and what qualifies as conservative?
 

Oric

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First destabilize countries by wars, weapon aids to seperatists, direct invasion, then complain about millions of victims being "refugees"

history will write these as the humanity's greatest hypocrisy
 

UNCjigga

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Why should Germany have to fix someone else's mess? It's a bit cold for sure, but maybe Germany should do what's best for Germany?
Yeah, Germany should just do Germany! What's the worst that could happen?
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cytg111

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I'm going to start replying like the leftists here, since you among others don't want to actually discuss anything.

WEAK!

Because our *problems* is forever increasingly problems of a planet wide scale. If we do not come together, planet wide, to solve these problems it is night night sapiens. USA is in a very unique position with its diplomacy and uber super powered military to drive this point home. To my mind there is no other way.
 
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Awesome example.

So, Germany is being overrun by a sizable minority who are in turn destroying their country and culture.

What do you think Germany's final solution to the refugee question is?

I don't know what Germany will do, those leftist assholes could do anything. What they should do is kick out the refugees and not allow in any more. Let Saudia Arabia take them in.
 
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I don't know what Germany will do, those leftist assholes could do anything. What they should do is kick out the refugees and not allow in any more. Let Saudia Arabia take them in.

Why aren't you volunteering to lead the refugee-relocation program in other countries? This is obviously more important to you than anything that actually affects your life, so you should get over there and do it.

I'll get you started: Germany, and the rest of the world, are on the other side of that big blue ocean thing.
 
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Because our *problems* is forever increasingly problems of a planet wide scale. If we do not come together, planet wide, to solve these problems it is night night sapiens. USA is in a very unique position with its diplomacy and uber super powered military to drive this point home. To my mind there is no other way.
Pax Americana. Do it our way voluntarily or we'll make you do it. Let me know how that works out.
 
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Why aren't you volunteering to lead the refugee-relocation program in other countries? This is obviously more important to you than anything that actually affects your life, so you should get over there and do it.

I'll get you started: Germany, and the rest of the world, are on the other side of that big blue ocean thing.

You don't understand, The refugees shouldn't be brought into Europe at all, Saudia Arabia and other middle eastern countries should take them in. This does affect my life when the refugees are allowed in and commit crimes and kill innocent people.
 

Indus

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You don't understand, The refugees shouldn't be brought into Europe at all, Saudia Arabia and other middle eastern countries should take them in. This does affect my life when the refugees are allowed in and commit crimes and kill innocent people.

LOL. I live in a zip code that has 65% foreign born population.

Guess what the murder rate is? 2 in 25 years.
 
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LOL. I live in a zip code that has 65% foreign born population.

Guess what the murder rate is? 2 in 25 years.

Theres a difference between legal immigrants and refugees though, Ask the rape victims of the refugees how they feel.
 

Indus

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Theres a difference between legal immigrants and refugees though, Ask the rape victims of the refugees how they feel.

I'm the child of refugees admitted into the US courtesy of Vietnam war. I sure haven't raped and killed anyone, nor have I conspired to blow people up like the ones who wanted to in Minnesota.

Oh they weren't refugees either.. they were pure home grown American Terrorists!
 

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You don't understand, The refugees shouldn't be brought into Europe at all, Saudia Arabia and other middle eastern countries should take them in. This does affect my life when the refugees are allowed in and commit crimes and kill innocent people.

Saudia Arabia and the other middle east countries are already full of refugees from your wars