Georgia (legislator?) says Women are like Cows and Pigs

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In fairness to Georgia, it wasn't the entire state that said women were like cows or pigs, it was a single Republican state representative. But the fact that the people of Georgia elected that jackass to their legislature is pretty sad. I couldn't watch the video, but if he was being earnest in his comparison (and not sarcastic), that's one of the stupider things that's ever been said in any legislative assembly ever.
 
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It was one idiot who brought it up for debate, it will not go through.



In other news, legislators tend to be idiots.. Wow, this will make headlines.
 

Jaskalas

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OP, you lack some serious context and commentary.

Here's the pertinent information.

This week the Georgia State legislature debated a bill in the House, that would make it necessary for a woman to carry a stillborn baby until she ‘naturally’ goes into labor just as, according to Representative Terry England, pregnant cows and pigs do.
WTF?! o_O Is this... a cost savings plan?
 

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Keep it up repubs and you may lose all but the diehard repub women vote. I think they truly want to lose this election.
 

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Ah, what remarkable state I live in. I'm going to go cry in a corner for a bit now.
 

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Georgia, where women are still compared to livestock and treated as property.
 
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In fairness to Georgia, it wasn't the entire state that said women were like cows or pigs, it was a single Republican state representative. But the fact that the people of Georgia elected that jackass to their legislature is pretty sad. I couldn't watch the video, but if he was being earnest in his comparison (and not sarcastic), that's one of the stupider things that's ever been said in any legislative assembly ever.

What's more is it plays into the recent meme of a GOP war against women's health. It's one rep., but it's another GOP rep. One in a growing line of many in many different states with this ridiculous shit. The GOP brand is taking an absolute beating with this nonsense.
 

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Cows and pigs are also cut into pieces and barbecued. So is the state of Georgia going cannibal? Just sayiin'
 

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Because I trust random blog sites as much as I trust Obama, and because she did not bother to actually link to the proposed bill, I did some research and found it. Amazingly, FoxNews had a link to the actual bill in their story about it.

You can find it here:

http://www.legis.ga.gov/legislation/en-US/display/31965

Here are snippets:


A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT
1 To amend the Official Code of Georgia Annotated so as to provide that prenatal murder shall
2 be unlawful in all events and to remove numerous references to such procedures; to amend
3 Title 16, relating to crimes and offenses, so as to make certain findings of fact; to define
4 certain terms; to provide that any prenatal murder shall be unlawful; to provide a penalty; to
5 repeal certain exceptions to certain offenses; to provide for severability; to provide an​
6 effective date; to repeal conflicting laws; and for other purposes.
8​
SECTION 1.

9 Title 16 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to crimes and offenses, is
10 amended by striking Article 5, relating to abortion, in its entirety and inserting in lieu thereof
11 the following:
12​
"ARTICLE 5
13 16-12-140.
14 (a) The State of Georgia has the duty to protect all innocent life from the moment of
15 conception until natural death. We know that life begins at conception. After nearly four
16 decades of legal human prenatal murder, it is now abundantly clear that the practice has
17 negatively impacted the people of this state in many ways, including economic, health,
18 physical, psychological, emotional, and medical well-being. These, too, are areas of
19 legitimate concern and duty of this state. The General Assembly therefore makes the
20 following findings of fact:
21 (1) A fetus is a person for all purposes under the laws of this state from the moment of

22 conception;


38 (6) The United States Congress has reserved to itself 'all legislative powers​
herein vested'
39 according to Article I, Section I of the Constitution of the United States;
40 (7) 'Herein vested' to the United States Congress applies to only five crimes: (1)
41 counterfeiting, (2) piracy, (3) felonies on the high seas, (4) offenses against the law of
42 nations, and (5) treason; according to Article I, Section VIII and Article III, Section III
43 of the Constitution of the United States;
44 (8) Murder is not counterfeiting, piracy, felony on the high seas, an offense against the
45 law of nations, or treason;
46 (9) Georgia has, therefore, reserved to itself exclusive jurisdiction over the definition and

47 punishment of murder under Amendment X of the Constitution of the United States;


It also says schools and other public owned places cannot give out birth control.


All in all, it makes abortion illegal and says the SCOTUS has no jurisdiction due to violating the constitution when it ruled it did have jurisdiction.
 

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Feminist blog finds yet another excuse to b!tch and whine about the oppression from the patriarchy? Say it isn't so.
 

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I think the moral of this story is, if you are an elected official, never speak unless it is a prepared speech that has been run through at least 5 private focus groups.
 

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I think the moral of this story is, if you are an elected official, never speak unless it is a prepared speech that has been run through at least 5 private focus groups.

or don't compare women to poultry and cattle
 
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I think the moral of this story is, if you are an elected official, never speak unless it is a prepared speech that has been run through at least 5 private focus groups.
If you're a politician coming up with legislation for reproductive rights in humans, perhaps you shouldn't base that off of how animals are treated on a farm. A comment I saw elsewhere (paraphrased from memory): "I grew up on a farm. What I remember is they castrated the bulls." That's a pretty solid parallel; if you're going to force women to carry a stillborn to term because that's what cows do, it's only logical to harvest the semen from men and then castrate them. Because people are cattle.
 

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If you're a politician coming up with legislation for reproductive rights in humans, perhaps you shouldn't base that off of how animals are treated on a farm. A comment I saw elsewhere (paraphrased from memory): "I grew up on a farm. What I remember is they castrated the bulls." That's a pretty solid parallel; if you're going to force women to carry a stillborn to term because that's what cows do, it's only logical to harvest the semen from men and then castrate them. Because people are cattle.

Like I say, the focus groups would have altered what he said.

I clicked on the links, read the quote, and I did not get the impression the proposed legislation was based on the treatment of farm animals.

I mean, was that your honest take on the situation? I don't expect you to be honest to a random internet forum, I understand it is much more enjoyable to be humorous - but you better be honest with yourself.

The focus group would have alerted him to the fact that activists will take his words and run wild, and he would have created something different to say.
 
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Lanyap

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I can't find this in the code.

This week the Georgia State legislature debated a bill in the House, that would make it necessary for a woman to carry a stillborn baby until she ‘naturally’ goes into labor just as,...

State Rep. Terry England was speaking in favor of HB 954, which makes it illegal to obtain an abortion after 20 weeks even if the woman is known to be carrying a stillborn fetus or the baby is otherwise not expected to live to term.

http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20112012/108023.pdf

I found this.

114 (2) 'Prenatal murder' means the intentional removal of a fetus from a woman with an
115 intention other than to produce a live birth or to remove a dead fetus; provided, however,
116 that if a physician makes a medically justified effort to save the lives of both the mother
117 and the fetus and the fetus does not survive, such action shall not be prenatal murder.
118 Such term does not include a naturally occurring expulsion of a fetus known medically
119 as a 'spontaneous abortion' and popularly as a 'miscarriage' so long as there is no human
120 involvement whatsoever in the causation of such event.


Here's the video snippet where he talked about the animals. Only a few left wing sites are running with this story. This is obviously an anti-abortion law but it seems some people are really trying to spin it to get attention.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/03/12/442637/georgia-rep-compares-women-to-animals/?mobile=nc
 

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Horrible law, but it can sometimes be medically better to keep a still born fetus in the mother for months for weeks if not months.