George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography
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That's your rebuttal? RIDICULOUS. "Cecil," whoever the hell he is, even ADMITS Bush did indeed help the Nazis!
shinerburke, if I'm ever in arrested don't come help me at my trial. You'll probably get me hanged for a parking ticket!
"'Cecil,' whoever the hell he is' happens to be one of the most enlightened (and most circulated) columnists in the world.
shiner
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Read and learn....read and learn...Originally posted by: BOBDN
That's your rebuttal? RIDICULOUS. "Cecil," whoever the hell he is, even ADMITS Bush did indeed help the Nazis!
shinerburke, if I'm ever in arrested don't come help me at my trial. You'll probably get me hanged for a parking ticket!
So, did Bush and his firm finance the Nazis and enable Germany to rearm? Indirectly, yes. But they had a lot of company. Some of the most distinguished names in American business had investments or subsidiaries in prewar Germany, including Standard Oil and General Motors.
and Quaker Oats, and Ford Motor Company, and International Business Machines, and, and, and, and,
Hey BOBDN: Did you know that James D. Mooney of GM sent flowers to Hermann Goering's wife in March of 1940? You can find the evidence in the Mooney Papers on the Georgetown University website.
Did you also know that the U.S. Government reimbursed both GM and Ford for their bombed-out German plants after the conclusion of WWII? There should be proof of that over in the National Archives. One received $24 million while the other received $2 million. Can't remember who got what amount right off hand.
Nobody's hands were clean before and, in some cases, even during the big one. Nearly every one of them were dirty.
and Quaker Oats, and Ford Motor Company, and International Business Machines, and, and, and, and,
Hey BOBDN: Did you know that James D. Mooney of GM sent flowers to Hermann Goering's wife in March of 1940? You can find the evidence in the Mooney Papers on the Georgetown University website.
Did you also know that the U.S. Government reimbursed both GM and Ford for their bombed-out German plants after the conclusion of WWII? There should be proof of that over in the National Archives. One received $24 million while the other received $2 million. Can't remember who got what amount right off hand.
Nobody's hands were clean before and, in some cases, even during the big one. Nearly every one of them were dirty.
Oh, that's a real relief. Everyone was helping the Nazis while Americans were fighting and dying in Europe and the Pacific. Great. I feel much better now. Next war I'm gonna' by some of our enemy's war bonds and join all the other patriots.
Hey, do you think if Prescott and the Harrimans were acutally drafted and had to go "over there" to fight they would have still helped the Nazis?
So let me get this straight.
Charrison, Shinerburke and Burnedout know of and approve of war time profiteering. And they are aware the Bush family has a history of profiteering off of military conflict during which Americans fight and die.
And now we have a Bush in office who started a war based on lies he told and indeed his friends at Halliburton and other oil and energy companies are now profiteering off of the war that Bush claimed was necessary to stop Iraq from using WMD against the US. WMD which we now find never existed.
Don't you people have a problem with any of that? Or are you making a killing off of killing our soldiers too?
Charrison, Shinerburke and Burnedout know of and approve of war time profiteering. And they are aware the Bush family has a history of profiteering off of military conflict during which Americans fight and die.
And now we have a Bush in office who started a war based on lies he told and indeed his friends at Halliburton and other oil and energy companies are now profiteering off of the war that Bush claimed was necessary to stop Iraq from using WMD against the US. WMD which we now find never existed.
Don't you people have a problem with any of that? Or are you making a killing off of killing our soldiers too?
Wrong again corn. We're talking about the Bush family. If it was a "wise investment" for them why wouldn't it be a wise investment for me?
It's a wise investment for The Carlyle Group. They're making billions off of war - and with George Bush Sr. at the helm as well as Baker, John Major and others they're well connected enough to profiteer off of any war Bush Jr. can start!
I'd like to take this opportunity AGAIN to remind you of the forum policy against personal attacks.
Read the link. Then tell me it's a "straw man." The Carlyle Group is making billions off of war - and they have the connections to help wage one anytime and anywhere they choose.
Now, if the book I posted a link to and the Carlyle Group link were such slanderous attacks against the Bush family don't you think the Bush family would have done something about them? Or would it be in the Bush family's best interest to keep very quiet and hope they just go away...........because it's all TRUE.
Corn
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I'd like to take this opportunity AGAIN to tell you to kiss my ass. Evidently the concept of the strawman argument is beyond your comprehension, thus my earlier supposed insult was merely an accurate description........
My employer has a side business in the manufacture and design of military hardware, not to mention it owned manufacturing plants in pre-WW2 Germany. This neither makes me a Nazi, nor a war profiteer. Put two and two together sometime..........
Your desperation is comical and amusing, keep it up and I'll keep laughing at you.
My employer has a side business in the manufacture and design of military hardware, not to mention it owned manufacturing plants in pre-WW2 Germany. This neither makes me a Nazi, nor a war profiteer. Put two and two together sometime..........
Your desperation is comical and amusing, keep it up and I'll keep laughing at you.
it's funny, the first time i heard of the term "strawman", it was in reference to the things that george bush spouts out.
From just a quick glance, there are a multitude of problems that I have with just Chapter 2 of this biased propaganda in which you have linked.
Private armies of 300,000 to 400,000 terrorists aided the Nazis' rise to power.
To begin with, the NSDAP's rise to power was facilitated more by inherent associationalism within the German culture than by "300,000 to 400,000 terrorists". There was a need at the time in Germany for such governmental change. The political transformation resulted more from a power vacuum as well a detachment by the bourgeois from the multitude of political parties which existed at the time. A good place to start with academic sources would be Dr. Sheri Berman's (Princeton) "Civil Society and the Collapse of the Weimar Republic" available on JSTORS.
By Oct. 26, 1942, U.S. troops were under way for North Africa........ U.S. forces landed under fire near Algiers on Nov. 8, 1942; heavy combat raged throughout November.
WTF does this have to do with subject matter other than an attempt by the author to falsely incite contempt from the reader? Not a damned thing.
President Bush's family had already played a central role in financing and arming Adolf Hitler for his takeover of Germany
Baloney! This is propaganda. The "central role" mentioned here is totally inaccurate. Read up more carefully on the rise of the NSDAP in Germany from 1923-1932. There was little "arming" that was accomplished. Most of the financing came from the lower and middle classes within Germany.
I really don't have time right now to take chapter 2 apart and spit it back out at the author.
<edit>edited for ease of reading</edit>
<edit>second edit NSDAP. I really must stop typing these responses while on the phone here at work</edit>
KAMAZON
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Anton Chaitkin wrote most of this book, and he is Lyndon LaRouches historian. I have a site dedicated to the works of LaRouche and the Renaissance on my site, www.theacademy2004.com. Go down to the 'cadre' and 'history' section for an audio presentation of the western backers of Hitler under the "Hjalmar Schacht" section.
KAMAZON
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It still doesn't explain why you can't do or research anything without your God the Mass Media telling you it's OK first. If you're going to refute any of the presscott bush/hitler ties, then please, I would LOVE to hear it.
KAMAZON
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