Generation Wuss?

unokitty

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In the Ukraine, young people are dying in a fight for freedom.

In Venezeula, young people are also demonstrating and dying in a fight for freedom.

In the US, young people are fighting for the right to have someone else pay their school loans.

Does the US now have a whole generation of overly sensitive wusses whose high self-esteem has evolved into an overriding sense of entitlement and immunity from criticism?

As articulated by Bret Easton Ellis
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... it’s difficult for me to process. A little less so for my boyfriend, who happens to be a millennial of that age, but even he somewhat agrees with the sensitivity of Generation Wuss. It’s very difficult for them to take criticism, and because of that a lot of the content produced is kind of shitty. And when someone is criticised for their content, they seem to collapse, or the person criticising them is called a hater, a contrarian, a troll.

In a way it’s down to the generation that raised them, who cocooned them in praise – four stars for showing up, you know? But eventually everyone has to hit the dark side of life; someone doesn’t like you, someone doesn’t like your work, someone doesn’t love you back… people die. What we have is a generation who are super-confident and super-positive about things, but when the least bit of darkness enters their lives, they’re paralysed.

Ukrane has a revolution. Venesula has fighting in the streets. And in the US, we have Occupy Wall Street?


What's your opinion?

Agree with Bret Easton Ellis?

Think that Mr. Ellis jumped the shark after American Psyco?

Observe a similar phenomena but draw a different conclusion?

Uno
 

brycejones

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Dang kids are weak these days. Back in my day we walked in 5 feet of snow uphill both ways to school while killing Nazis with our theme books.

Be thankful we don't have the same issues as Ukraine or Venezuela to deal with.
 

fskimospy

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I have no idea why you would try to compare the situation in Venezuela or the Ukraine to the US.
 
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Its always sad to see Americans compare themselves to truly opressed societies... It's an insult to those who actually live under dictatorial/totalitarian conditions.
 

Thebobo

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Well we did have occupy wall street. It got violent in some parts if thats what you are looking for. Many went to jail for what they believed in. Unfortunately the movement got ridiculed by many in here because they had to attach their rigid political beliefs to it.
 

Matt1970

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It kind of puts things into perspective. The very worst America has to offer is still better than what a lot of other countries has to offer.
 

z1ggy

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Yeah it's not quite the same here as it is over there...

But if some situation like that did start to happen here, I bet more than likely we would just bend over and take it. We are too used to our fancy life styles. Besides, the media tells us what to care and not care about these days.. *cough cough* justin bieber.
 

JManInPhoenix

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Too many Americans of all stripes are over-sensitive getting butt hurt over nothing (compared to what others in the world are dealing with).
 

norseamd

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In the Ukraine, young people are dying in a fight for freedom. In Venezeula, young people are also demonstrating and dying in a fight for freedom. In the US, young people are fighting for the right to have someone else pay their school loans. Does the US now have a whole generation of overly sensitive wusses whose high self-esteem has evolved into an overriding sense of entitlement and immunity from criticism?

ever heard there are no eagles in vietnem

ever think about what happens when white boys like custer were captured by indians
 

Daverino

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Plenty of young Americans have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan over the past thirteen years. How many more would you like to have killed?

Patton wanted a few officers put in observation posts in North Africa so they would get killed. He reasoned their deaths would improve the morale of enlisted men.
 

berzerker60

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I agree! This generation is the worst ever!

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
 

Moonbeam

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Does the US now have a whole generation of overly sensitive wusses whose high self-esteem has evolved into an overriding sense of entitlement and immunity from criticism?

Tell conservatives they are brain defective and see what happens. Generation has little to do with it. Emotional immaturity has everything to do with it, the total lack of capacity to introspect because of the monster that one would see if one actually looked within.
 

theeedude

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Ukrainains are at least willing to fight for their Democracy. Americans surrendered it to the corporatists without a whimper, and many even cheer the surrender on because it aligns with their short term political goals.
 

Scotteq

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I generally take most of this stuff as pure hyperbole.

Having said that, my nephews were quite scared and upset when they learned Uncle Scott carries a pocket knife. I was deeply embarrassed for them.
 

fskimospy

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I agree! This generation is the worst ever!

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

Hey, that's my favorite 'damn kids' quote!
 

Jaskalas

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I generally take most of this stuff as pure hyperbole.

Having said that, my nephews were quite scared and upset when they learned Uncle Scott carries a pocket knife. I was deeply embarrassed for them.

Imagine if you had a CCW. They'd probably call 911.
 

thraashman

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It kind of puts things into perspective. The very worst America has to offer is still better than what a lot of other countries has to offer.

But just because someone else gets shot to death doesn't mean I won't be upset if someone kicks me in the balls. It may not be as bad but it's still shitty.
 

Londo_Jowo

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The answer to your question is Yes, we have a generation of wusses.

I suspect parents including myself are the blame as we decided our children would have a better life growing up than we did. We bought them more toys and paid their way rather than expecting them to work. Now add all the PC coddling (nobody loses/everybody wins) that has occurred over the last 2 decades and the problem has exploded in to what it is today.
 

berzerker60

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FYI People protest and go to jail for their beliefs all the time in America. It just doesn't get covered by the media unless there's violence or a sales-friendly tagline/narrative to go with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Mondays
In 2012, North Carolina elected a Republican governor, Pat McCrory, and Republicans expanded their majority in both state houses, giving them control of both the legislative and executive branch for the first time since 1870. Since taking office, McCrory has signed into law a number of bills promoting conservative governance, and the legislature has passed or considered a number of other laws which have generated controversy.[2] The bills signed into law by McCrory and proposed legislation have been the target of ongoing "Moral Mondays" civil disobedience protests, organized in part by local religious leaders including William Barber, head of the North Carolina chapter of the NAACP.[3][4]

Members of the protest movement meet Monday to protest an action by the North Carolina legislature and then enter the legislature building. Once they enter, a number are peacefully arrested each Monday.[5] The protestors are a wide range of mostly North Carolina citizens, with many religious progressive movements represented.[6]


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Since the start of April, more than 800 demonstrators have been arrested in the course of the protests,[29] and police have estimated weekly attendance at over 2,500.[30]
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924 people were arrested during the 2013 protests in the legislature building. In August, the Wake County District Attorney offered them a deferred prosecution deal under which they would pay $180 in court costs and perform 25 hours of community service in exchange for having their charges dismissed.[35] Fewer than two dozen accepted the deal.[36] Trials for those who refused the deal began on October 4, with former Wake County district court judges Joy Hamilton and William Lawton appointed by the state to preside over them. Protestors were charged with second-degree trespassing, failure to disperse on command, and posting or displaying signs or placards in violation of legislative building rules. Despite the similarity in the cases, outcomes have significantly varied in different trials. Saladin Muhammad, the first to be tried, was convicted on all counts.[37] In trials on October 11, all charges were dismissed.[38] William Barber and others were convicted only of trespassing and violating building rules. The failure to disperse charge was dismissed due to lack of evidence that there was a threat of violence associated with the demonstrations. In other trials, the violation of building rules charges were deemed unconstitutional due to the vagueness of the rule regarding signs. Barber and others have announced their intention to appeal.[36] As lower court judges in North Carolina are not required to provide the reasons for their rulings, the reasons for the differences between cases are often unknown.[39]
 

fskimospy

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The answer to your question is Yes, we have a generation of wusses.

I suspect parents including myself are the blame as we decided our children would have a better life growing up than we did. We bought them more toys and paid their way rather than expecting them to work. Now add all the PC coddling (nobody loses/everybody wins) that has occurred over the last 2 decades and the problem has exploded in to what it is today.

On what objective measures are you declaring current people to be a 'generation of wusses'?
 
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It kind of puts things into perspective. The very worst America has to offer is still better than what a lot of other countries has to offer.

I think the point is other people are willing to fight for their rights.

Is America willing to fight for their rights? Or are they willing to pitch some tents on a public park while smoking weed and pooping on the flag that represents your rights?
 

fskimospy

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Read the posts of the young in this forum as well as what young people say where you work/live and there's no doubt there's a generation of wusses right now.

I'm going to venture a guess that my standards for what constitutes enough evidence to mean 'no doubt' are a lot higher than yours then.

As has already been mentioned in this thread, the older generation has been deriding the younger generation for being slovenly, petty, immature, etc since the beginning of time. It's a natural human trait as our perspective shifts as we age.
 

fskimospy

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I think the point is other people are willing to fight for their rights.

Is America willing to fight for their rights? Or are they willing to pitch some tents on a public park while smoking weed and pooping on the flag that represents your rights?

You realize the level of grievance that it took to ignite such 'fighting' is vastly greater than what goes on in the US, right?