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Kaido

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I keep noticing this sort of odd behavior with my Vive Pro. If I touch the HMD, the screen goes gray for a second and eventually comes back after maybe a second or two. I’m assuming that the HMD is losing tracking when this happens as I took the HMD off and kept touching it until this happened, and I saw a tracking notice on the SteamVR equipment window.

So, I guess I’m wondering if I just need to adjust/reposition my lighthouses? I switched rooms recently to avoid using a whole bedroom just for VR, and I wonder if my more rectangular play area is not as good. (By the way, it’s kinda lame because the play area borders appear a lot while playing due to the narrow area.)

The biggest thing the PSVR 2 would need to do for me is to have far better tracking. If it isn’t at least using inside out, then it will have the same issues as the original.
Tracking is the biggest reason I haven't gone with a PSVR yet. I've used them a few times & don't like flying around haha.

I'm hoping to build a Murphy bed setup next month so I can have a usable multi-function room. I've had this design on my list for awhile, uses some cheap boat swivel seats haha:

 

Aikouka

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I purchased the VR Cover for the Oculus Quest, and I’m kind of mixed on it. It's definitely nice to not have a fabric face pad like you get with the Quest (or pretty much any other HMD). However, the problem is that the Quest's default face pad was far more accommodating to glasses. Whenever I remove the Quest with the VR Cover face pad, it pretty much always pulls my glasses off, and that's with both the thin and thick pads. Since I don't have this problem with VR Cover's Vive face pad system, I'm assuming this is likely due to the Quest's more curved design. Oh, and compared to the cheaper face pad that you can buy off Amazon, the VR Cover unit does not come with a nose piece, and there is massive amounts of light bleed from the nose area.

I think VR Cover could improve the design if they'd consider a hybrid setup. In my experience, most of the sweat that you get on the face pad is usually at the top and the bottom. You do get a bit on the sides, but it's not as much. So, I was thinking... what if they had foam similar to the default Oculus face pad on the side (for glasses) and the rest of it was leather? It would complicate the design, but it would likely help a ton.

So, my overall thoughts are that I definitely strongly prefer how easy it is to clean, but it's a bit tighter than I'd prefer and there's too much light bleed around the nose. Although, from what I saw on the Amazon unit, which costs a tiny bit less than the VR Cover one, the construction is likely better on the VR Cover unit.
 

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Lifer
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I've been thinking about upgrading my HTC Vive to the Index (although I already have the newer Index knuckle controllers so really I'd just be buying the Index HMD) but now I'm seriously considering just selling my Vive and replacing it with an Oculus Rift S instead.

I really like how there's no base stations involved. And when Brandon, one of the lead guys behind Boneworks, said that the game runs great on a Rift S, that seriously makes me consider it.

Only problem is selling the Vive. I saw a bunch available on OfferUp/LetGo for pretty cheap so ebay might be the better way to go there. It would be nice to sell it for enough to pay for the Rift S. I think $590 for my lightly used Vive, with the Index controllers and wireless module, is quite fair, but I doubt I could get that amount. :-/
 

Aikouka

Lifer
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Only problem is selling the Vive. I saw a bunch available on OfferUp/LetGo for pretty cheap so ebay might be the better way to go there. It would be nice to sell it for enough to pay for the Rift S. I think $590 for my lightly used Vive, with the Index controllers and wireless module, is quite fair, but I doubt I could get that amount. :-/
While it's more hassle, you should consider selling parts separately. One of the biggest thing with components like the lighthouses is that they contain fast moving parts, and they can fail. I've already had one lighthouse die, and it costs around $90 for a replacement off eBay. Also, I haven't checked lately, but Valve has been having trouble keeping Index hardware in stock, so you might also be better off selling the Index Controllers by themselves for someone who is looking to upgrade but can't find the controllers in stock.

I've also been considering selling my wireless adapter since I removed it recently due to it being more hassle when setting up the system for someone else. (I don't mind the cable as I'm really used to stepping over it.) The wireless adapter also doesn't work well for kids. I find that it's hard to pull the top Velcro strap back far enough because of the wireless receiver being in the way. Unfortunately, I haven't checked to see how much they're going for, so I can't provide any insight there. However, your HMD and possibly older Vive Wands could certainly help anyone out who accidentally broke theirs and. HTC charges a fortune for replacements, so the used market has usually been good.

Ultimately, this is always the hardest part of selling stuff. I'm running into now that I'm letting go of some older video game hardware. Do I try to sell some of the games separately, or do I bundle them with the console? Bundling them is certainly easy, but I was seeing some prices of around $15 for a used copy in very good condition. Given that I might only get $50-60 more for a slew of games bundled, it might be worth it to sell them apart.
 

sze5003

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I listed my original rift on offer up and it sold for $250 with the controllers and the two receivers as well as an Xbox controller.

I also put up my Samsung Odyssey for $250 and one person was interested, made me take a video of it to make sure it was working and then they never followed through. I'm not sure what the original Odyssey is going for but it's been there a while so I would have to drop the price.

eBay is tough because I've seen Odyssey go for $200 even the regular model. But of course you need to pay shipping and there is also eBay and PayPal fees which are high now compared to what I remember.

A month ago someone won my laptop auction and then didn't pay because they wanted me to change the ram configuration of the laptop as if I'm some PC repair shop. Selling used electronics is always difficult and my least favorite thing to do.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
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A month ago someone won my laptop auction and then didn't pay because they wanted me to change the ram configuration of the laptop as if I'm some PC repair shop. Selling used electronics is always difficult and my least favorite thing to do.
I don't really have issues with selling on eBay, but you have to factor in losing 15% on each sale to eBay and PayPal fees. Frankly, unless you offered the option to change the RAM in your description, that person was just wrong and I hope you gave them negative feedback. But on that note, your description and photos do matter. I always try to be clear what's actually for sale in the auction... especially if I'm using any sort of prop in my photos (e.g. a TV to show the display when selling a console).

But I still think parting his kit might work out a bit better, and that's mostly due to the Index Controllers. I just took a look on eBay and Index controllers have a stupidly high mark-up right now. I'm seeing sold auctions listed as open box that went over $500+. If his controllers are in good enough condition, they could likely fetch $350+. Even the Vive Wireless kit is worth a decent amount at about $100-150.
 

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Lifer
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Yeah I suppose I'd be willing to sell the components in parts.

Hmm. Maybe what I'll do is just list the whole thing together and see what happens, for simplicity's sake, then if there's no interest I'll sell them by pieces.

I've sold multiple things through OfferUp/LetGo and have had great experiences each time, but have only sold one electronic thing, through eBay recently. That also went very well, thankfully. I still haven't figured out how to claim my money though, lmfao. I've logged in to ebay via the mobile app, and on my desktop, and I cannot find the damn page to do it. Maybe I'm just dumb lol.
 
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There was a really good deal on the Odyssey+ (forget where, but it was reputable place and was like almost $200 brand new), which I really had to keep from buying but I really don't like the headphone setup (no option for removal, or for using an alternative). And then I just missed out on buying someone's 128GB Quest for $300. Keeping an eye out for any others that might pop up. I think the Quest has enough that I like (3.5mm jacks for using my own headphones, easy prescription lense option, OLED, good enough resolution, good support, solid inside out tracking, and the finger tracking looks like it might be decent enough to really use) that it'd be good enough while I wait for hardware advancements.
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
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Great news - Virtual Desktop (latest beta) works pretty good with wireless streaming from PC to the Quest! That means:

1. You don't have to buy an Oculus, Vive, or Index to play PC games
2. You don't need the Link cable connected to the PC
3. You don't have to install any Lighthouses
4. You can stream a VR game from your PC to your Quest

Virtual Desktop is $20:


Alyx for Steam is $60:


 
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Someone had bought a bunch of the Quests (this was even before the pandemic, not sure if they bought them around X-mas or what) and were trying to sell them for inflated prices. Also saw some that were selling ones that had "every game" which I'm assuming they got via some hack or stolen account/credit card or something. Lots of Rifts listed.
 

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