Gender Disappointment

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Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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I feel sorry for the children. For a mother to reject them for petty and selfish reasons is criminal.
 

AreaCode707

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Sep 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: Rhonda the Sly

Why is everyone getting all bent out of shape over this?

I am curious why these people chose to conceive themselves and run a solid risk of having the "unfavored" gender over adoption. Well, okay, I'm not really curious but I would have preferred it if they took that route as it seems much better overall for most everyone. Nutty parent gets the gender they want, child gets a parent, and the system has one less child in it. They're wasting years of their life creating children they just don't care for which seems unproductive.

Time, money, and love aren't infinite. At least, even if they were, you wouldn't be able to experience anything but the potentiality of that yourself. Having any number of unwanted children takes away time, money, and love from the child you do want. It takes time to build a strong bond between family members unless you a) have some sort of obsession or b) love people because of their status (rich, good looking, family, etc). For maximum simplicity and a minimum error rate it would be easiest to just adopt.

I'm all about that. I don't want kids but I do want to work with foster teens someday.

I don't want kids at all so perhaps I'm not qualified to comment, but the attitude these women have to their non-preferenced-gender children seems almost criminal.
A bit over the top, no? As long as their not depriving their children of the basic necessities (food, water, shelter), they're good as cream pie in the eyes of the law. It would be nice if they showered their children with love and affection but the law can't define, regulate, or monitor that.[/quote]

No, I don't think it's over the top. One woman has three boys and is contemplating giving them up for adoption. Doing that to a child who is old enough to understand and remember, simply due to gender, is really really really fucked up.
 

rudder

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Nov 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Maybe these women need to find women who had girls and who wanted boys and then exchange them.

There are a lot of girls born in China every year that no one wants.. we should set up some sort of website where you can make an account and post FT threads.
 

zephyrprime

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Feb 18, 2001
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I don't think this sort of thinking is widespread yet but it is an indication of the reverse sexism that is growing in western societies.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: zephyrprime
I don't think this sort of thinking is widespread yet but it is an indication of the reverse sexism that is growing in western societies.

The article alludes to the reason for the preference being that boys are considered the defective sex now. It cites boys going to college less and doing worse in school. Of course, the main reasons cited by the nutwads in the article was mostly some sort of mother daughter tea party fantasy.
 

JTsyo

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Nov 18, 2007
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Originally posted by: Modelworks
I would like to say I am shocked but I am not. After seeing people claiming a newborn isn't a person and that infanticide is okay I just shake my head in disgust. These are the same people that if left unchecked will have children that are born premature killed because they are not perfect. How is it we require a license for things like driving a car but nothing for having a child, as if anyone can do it just fine.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...ortion_and_infanticide
In 2005, 90 million women were estimated to be missing in seven Asian countries alone, apparently due to sex-selective abortion

damn what is wrong with people.

I know in some countries it's illegal to find out the sex of the baby before birth. Asian countries tend to favor male births, though I think that's changing slowly.

I feel kind of bad for the kids if the mothers can't get over the fact that the kids weren't of the wanted sex. You would think after a few months the mother would be attached to their child but what do I know about maternal instincts.
 

zephyrprime

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: zephyrprime
I don't think this sort of thinking is widespread yet but it is an indication of the reverse sexism that is growing in western societies.

The article alludes to the reason for the preference being that boys are considered the defective sex now. It cites boys going to college less and doing worse in school. Of course, the main reasons cited by the nutwads in the article was mostly some sort of mother daughter tea party fantasy.

That is true. Is this weird phenomena just some sort of super stupidity?
 

jagec

Lifer
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F'ed up. I'm glad that I actually had a good mother, not a terrible mother like the ones in the article. Then again, maybe she only tolerates me because I have an older sister.:roll:

Obviously this is all about micro-managing every single aspect of your life (although why anyone would want to live that way, I don't know). That's why we have HOAs, that's why we have zero-tolerance policies, that's why we have liability lawsuits and "emotional damages" and now, gender disappointment. How much do you want to bet that one of these women is going to sue the sex-selection company for emotional distress?
I suppose that wanting girls is more logical...boys are much more variable. More likely to be utter geniuses, but more likely to have health problems or be unstable. Also more independent, which means that they won't do everything that Mommy says all the time.
 

WHAMPOM

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Feb 28, 2006
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Go out and get one of those yappy dogs, dress it up and have a tea party. Problem solved.
 

Onceler

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I'm happy, I wanted a daughter and got a daughter. I would probably not have loved a son near as much.
 

GroundedSailor

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Love and nurture your children and it doesn't matter what gender they are. The bond begins at their birth. I have a daughter and a son, neither is more or less precious to me.
 

jvroig

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This just strikes me as unreasonable if not getting [preferred gender] means not loving your child.

But then again, I'm not a woman, so it's no surprise if I don't get something that is important to women but not to me.

[But really... crazy....]
 

Mursilis

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Mar 11, 2001
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I can't imagine not loving the child no matter what. When I see some of the comments from the women, all I can say is "wow, just wow". Sad really, because I'm sure their sentiment won't be lost on their children of the "wrong" gender.

Kudos to you and your wife. And you're right, those kids will *know* they're unwanted, and they'll be emotionally damaged because of it. Children are amazingly perceptive, as mine teach me every day. Love to a child is a necessary as air. I can't imagine being a child and feeling unloved and unwanted.
 

Mursilis

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Love and nurture your children and it doesn't matter what gender they are. The bond begins at their birth. I have a daughter and a son, neither is more or less precious to me.

Amen to that! I've got a daughter and a son and two more daughters after them, and I could never pick a favorite among the 4. Each is cherished in their own unique way, and hopefully they all understand that.
 

Fenixgoon

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what i couldn't believe most was that in the article, one woman was considering an abortion just because she wasn't having a daughter. WTF!!!!! you (presumably) have a healthy child in you and you want to get rid of him because he's not a girl?

these women are just retarded/batshit-insane.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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These women must have some dickless pussy whipped doormats as husbands who accept this kind of behavior.

I'd be dialing up my lawyer and cutting this crazy bitch loose ASAP.
 

dainthomas

Lifer
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These women are mental defectives. They don't even want a child. What happens when they have a tomboy who doesn't live up to their retarded fantasies? Do they drown her in a bathtub with the rest of their unwanted spawn? They should be sterilized.

I concur.

Hopefully the fathers of any of the unfortunate boys from this article are smart enough to take this article to court and get full custody.
 

monovillage

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The Who 1967 "i'm a boy" quote from the song "my name is Bill and i'm a head case". I have sympathy for the kids she's going to be raising.
 

Triumph

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what i couldn't believe most was that in the article, one woman was considering an abortion just because she wasn't having a daughter. WTF!!!!! you (presumably) have a healthy child in you and you want to get rid of him because he's not a girl?

Hey, that's the price you have to pay when you accept the pro "choice" viewpoint. After all, right up until that baby pops out the vag, the mother has a right to do whatever the hell she wants with it, right? Who are you to tell a woman what to do with her womb? At least that's what the argument is. Whether she aborts the baby because she's handicapped with no job, no insurance, and no family to support her, or she's just a vain emotional nutcase who doesn't want a baby with brown eyes, it's still her CHOICE. This is just the natural result of a combination of the pro-choice movement, and the entitlement society.

I'm not specifically referring to you, fenixgoon, I'm using you in the third person plural form.
 

CountZero

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Hey, that's the price you have to pay when you accept the pro "choice" viewpoint. After all, right up until that baby pops out the vag, the mother has a right to do whatever the hell she wants with it, right? Who are you to tell a woman what to do with her womb? At least that's what the argument is. Whether she aborts the baby because she's handicapped with no job, no insurance, and no family to support her, or she's just a vain emotional nutcase who doesn't want a baby with brown eyes, it's still her CHOICE. This is just the natural result of a combination of the pro-choice movement, and the entitlement society.

I'm not specifically referring to you, fenixgoon, I'm using you in the third person plural form.

Anything that leaves open the possibility of choice will have somebody that in essence 'abuses' that choice but that in no way means that having that choice is a bad thing. I don't want to thread jack so I'll stop there.

I don't really find the attitude of these women at all surprising. Father's have a win-win, even if they have a preference. Either they can have "daddy's little girl" or they can have a boy that they can relate to. For mother's a girl is someone they can relate to and a boy is someone they have to be careful they don't turn into "a mama's boy". There is, in essence, a societal rule to prevent them from getting to close to their sons. It also isn't as if parents haven't been disowning their children since the dawn of time.

These women are just off their rockers. If my wife talked about my children (not that I have any) in that way I'd seriously consider divorcing her and seeking full custody to keep them away.

I'd also wager to bet that this type of thing has always been happening, the internet just makes it easier for these 1 in 100,000 types of people to find each other.

And lastly as others have mentioned why haven't they considered adoption. My god, so many kids stuck in a horrible system and they are throwing money away trying to get a girl when they could spend that money adopting a girl. Sad.