Gender Disappointment

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Girl Crazy: Women Who Suffer from Gender Disappointment

By Ruth Shalit Barrett | October 09, 2009 2:00 p.m.

When a sonogram showed that Stephanie Lewis, a writer and party planner living in San Diego, was expecting boy-girl twins, she was ecstatic. Lewis, already the mother of a two-year-old son, had always longed for a girl. ?From an early age, I just remember wanting a daughter,? says Lewis, an effervescent brunette who recalls a Pleasantville childhood filled with mother-daughter fashion shows, ballet recitals, and tea parties. ?Now, finally, I was getting her. I was just in heaven.?

Not that the sonographer?s revelation had come as a shock. For this, her second pregnancy, the 28-year-old Lewis had done everything in her power to increase the odds of having a girl. She?d adhered to a strict diet of milk, kefir, berries, and low-salt sesame paste on the premise that X sperm will thrive in a calcium-rich environment. She?d douched with vinegar and slept with a lime-soaked tampon in hopes of lowering her vaginal pH to girl-favorable levels. With her husband?s reluctant assent, Lewis also visited a local sperm-spinning clinic that practices a form of sex selection known as the Ericsson method. In this process, faster-swimming boy-producing sperm are separated from slower swimming girl-producing sperm, yielding a concentrate that is then inserted into the woman?s uterus via artificial insemination.

It took Lewis four tries, each costing $1,500, to become pregnant. Upon hearing the good news?about the girl-boy twins?she went shopping. ?I didn?t buy the boy anything,? she says. Instead she stocked up on pink paraphernalia for her daughter, already named Cassandra. ?I bought her jewelry and a little bracelet with her name on it. I was planning her first Halloween. She was going to be a little ballerina.?

As it turned out, the sonographer had made an error. Lewis got a delivery room surprise: twin boys. ?I was in hysterics. I felt like somebody had died. The nurse had to send over a psychiatric social worker,? she says.

At home with her baby boys and her two-year-old son, Lewis? anguish deepened. She was put on Prozac, but it didn?t help. ?I stayed in my room. I drew the drapes. I felt like a funeral should be held.? The low point was when the twins had to be circumcised. ?I thought, Here we are with two penises when there should not have been two. I got a lot of preaching,? she adds. ?People would say, ?You have two healthy infants. How ungrateful can you be?'"

Family members pointed out the toll her mood was taking on her three young sons, but ?I didn?t want to listen,? Lewis recalls. ?I was in a fog.? She stayed in her room, ate peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, and slept for hours, rousing herself only to shop for ?drop-dead, absolutely adorable? baby boy clothes. ?I hated blue, so I bought mint green,? she says. ?That brought me comfort.?

Lewis? despair began to abate when she went online and, to her astonishment, found chatrooms full of women who were distraught for the same reason she was. Her new friends had screen names such as Dreamofgirlz, Praying4Pink, and PlzBeABoy. On sites like iVillage.com and In-Gender.com, they swapped gender-?swaying? techniques, posted photos of their kids (?This is Carter, who was supposed to be Chance?), and grappled openly with their ?gender disappointment??GD for short. ?I have not stopped crying,? wrote one In-Gender poster. ?I just sit in a daze and contemplate the end of my life.? Wrote another: ?I?ve been in a funk all afternoon and am once again considering terminating this pregnancy.?

Finally, Lewis had a name for what was ailing her. ?For the first time, I felt I wasn?t a bad person for feeling this way. Here was this treasure trove of women who could all commiserate. It was like I was part of a club.?

Gender disappointment is not an official psychiatric diagnosis. It?s an Internet-era label, an appellation coined by women who are bitterly unhappy about their baby?s gender and who can?t get over it, even after their child is born. It?s also a subculture, or, as Lewis says, a club. There are books on GD (Altered Dreams: Living With Gender Disappointment), herbal tonics and tablets intended to influence a child?s sex, and a handful of fertility specialists who have no qualms about taking all the guesswork out of baby making. ?Why not?? asks Jeffery Steinberg, MD, an Encino, California?based reproductive endocrinologist who specializes in the use of in vitro fertilization for sex selection. ?We?re not producing monsters; we?re producing healthy babies.?

Much of the talk on the GD message boards revolves around sex selection methods, ranging from various folk remedies to sperm-sorting and spinning methods (MicroSort, Ericsson) to the holy grail: in vitro fertilization with preimplantation genetic diagnosis (PGD), a technique in which a doctor determines the gender of the embryos and transfers only those that fit the parents? request. The most popular at-home option is the Shettles method, named after the doctor who developed it and involving the exquisite timing of intercourse relative to ovulation. You?ll also see lots of homegrown recipes for conceiving daughters that turn sex into a kind of kinky mad-science experiment: ?Have your [partner] give you a ?sample.? Catch it in a cup or condom. Add warm lime. Do not warm lime in microwave?warm in hot sink. Then layer egg white (with a pH of 9 to 9.9) on top. You then incubate it for an hour?and insert it into yourself with medical syringe. Lay with hips raised.?

Some women go as far as to label their own boys as ?failed sways? or ?Shettles Opposites.? The mother of little Caleb, writing on In-Gender, wants it known that her apple-cheeked son is ?living as a MicroSort statistic?: He is the unexpected result of a 92.9 percent girl sort probability that doctors gave her. The mom of three-year-old Isaac and two-year-old Isaiah, who?s expecting another boy on December 15, has put a frowny-face icon next to her due date. ?I hate my life,? she writes. ?My family is complete in reality but not in my heart.? She is considering giving all three of her boys up for adoption: ?I want to give them to someone who can actually love them.?

It?s easy to dismiss the GD crowd as a bunch of heartless nutcakes. Yet it?s undeniable that a kind of free-floating girl lust has entered the public consciousness.

I experienced it myself several years ago. I loved having a boy. But each time I visited my sister, I found myself drifting through my nieces? rooms, mooning over the high-perched canopy beds and dollhouses and Lip Smackers lined up like little toy soldiers: Watermelon, Grape Crush, Berry Peach.

On impulse, I bought my three-year-old son an expensive Swedish dollhouse, so clean-lined and modern that it could pass for unisex. He removed the furniture, turned it on its side, and found a way of connecting the bed to the armoire and the armoire to the sideboard. ?Look, Mom,? he said. ?A train.?

When I got pregnant for the second time, I really thought I?d be fine with another boy. I tried to picture two little imps playing on the beach in matching Vilbrequin swim trunks. When the doctor?s office called with the results of my amniocentesis, I was drinking root beer and eating takeout pad thai. ?It?s a girl,? they said, and I put down my soda with a thud; I went to Whole Foods and stocked up on fresh veggies, brown rice, and an organic probiotic drink called Berry Green. I felt a sudden surge of tender protectiveness. I felt electrified. It turns out I wasn?t alone in fervently desiring a girl: Seventyone percent of American families who use MicroSort?which is still in clinical trials?want a daughter. The Ericsson method that Lewis used is actually more effective for selecting a boy: about 80 percent, compared with only 74 percent for a girl. But the ratio of girl-to-boy requests is as high as two to one at licensed clinics. ?The era of wanting a first-born male is gone, not to return,? founder Ronald Ericsson, MD, has said.

What?s behind the modern-day girl fetish? One explanation: Women envision a brighter future for their daughters than they do for their sons. Boys are practically the underdogs these days, having fallen behind girls on nearly every measure of academic achievement, from college attendance to high school graduation rates. According to books such as The War Against Boys and Boys Adrift, they are in danger of becoming, as Christina Hoff Sommers has written, ?tomorrow?s second sex.?

?The way society is now?I feel there?s a preference for girls,? says Linda Heithaus, a marine biologist from Hollywood, Florida, who has two sons and is contemplating doing IVF/PGD in the hope of getting a girl. ?They can do everything a boy can do, plus you can dress them up. It?s almost like, to fit in, you need to have one.? Girls, in other words, are boys plus. They can play sports and have careers, and you can dress them in pink and take them to tea at the American Girl café. What?s not to like?

Others link the yearning to women?s belief that they?ll have a richer lifelong relationship with a daughter than a son. ?Families are raised differently these days,? says Kathleen Rein, a New York psychiatrist who specializes in postpartum disorders. ?It?s much more isolating to be a mother. You don?t have your mom and grandmother next door. Women want girls because they want that close female bond they?re not getting in other parts of their life.?

Consider Cynthia Zierhut, a clinical and developmental psychologist at UC Davis. Five years ago, after giving birth to her third son, Zierhut turned to MicroSort. ?My desire for a daughter is not about pink or shopping. I don?t get manicures and pedicures. All that stuff isn?t important to me. Relationships are. As a woman, I have so much I want to share.?

Zierhut, who is 40, has undergone two failed MicroSorts in the past year. Now she?s pinning her hopes on ovulation timing and various at-home swaying methods, including the restrictive girl diet. ?Lately, I?m just so sick of it,? she says. But she?s reluctant to give up. ?I am a little bit obsessed. The minute I started pursuing this, I pursued it in the manner that I?ve pursued every single thing in my life that I thought I could obtain. And that just feeds on itself.?

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I don't want kids at all so perhaps I'm not qualified to comment, but the attitude these women have to their non-preferenced-gender children seems almost criminal. I don't buy that this is a mental illness, and I'm usually fairly sympathetic to issues that can be construed as such. It seems like they really WANT it to be labeled mental illness so they don't have to take responsibility for their feelings or actions, so people will feel sorry for them instead of disgusted by their selfishness.

Has anyone experienced anything like this firsthand? Give me some alternative input; I'm open to changing my perspective but I'd need to hear some serious testimony on it.

[edit] After further reflection, I have more commentary to add. Do you think this is an "always throughout history" thing or a production of the current age?
 
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"A woman has a right to control her own body so if it's producing something she doesn't want, she has a right to get rid of it"
Expect to see stories and comments like this become more common.
Don't get me wrong, I'm anything but celebrating it :(
 

bfdd

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Ridiculous.

I wanted to edit my post, but I am at a loss for words. I can't even think straight after reading this and how dumb these women are. One wants to give her THREE sons up for adoption because she didn't get a girl and doesn't love her kids? Maybe they shouldn't be having kids in the fucking first place? Goddamnit.
 

MikeMike

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Fuck that... us men have to help provide, so i guess if we want a boy and they want a girl, we now need lawyers... awesome.
 

bfdd

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Fuck that... us men have to help provide, so i guess if we want a boy and they want a girl, we now need lawyers... awesome.

Rofl.
 

TheSkinsFan

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I'll admit that I felt a little "let down" when I found out at the 5-month mark that my first child was going to be a girl; but then, when she was born four months later, I fell in love instantly, and I never thought about it again! :)

The women in this article are incredibly unstable and seem unfit to be parents -- but, then again, I guess they're just being honest about how they feel, no matter how fucked up those feelings might be.

Those poor kids though... damn.
 

BeauJangles

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WTF

edit: I don't get this mentality at all. I would really like both a boy and a girl, but I'm not about to spend thousands of dollars to do it. I'd much rather just have one kid with my wife and then adopt a kid of the opposite gender.
 

Double Trouble

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My wife and I had twin boys. My wife would really love to have a little girl, but there's not a moment that goes by that she doesn't adore those boys. We thank the man upstairs every day that we have two healthy children, and ultimately that's the best anyone can ever hope for. These women are idiotic/selfish/moronic/stupid/vapid in every way. I can understand being a little disappointed if you had visions of a boy/girl and were looking forward to certain moments or a certain relationship, but ultimately, I can't imagine not loving the child no matter what. When I see some of the comments from the women, all I can say is "wow, just wow". Sad really, because I'm sure their sentiment won't be lost on their children of the "wrong" gender.
 

SirStev0

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You should be required by law to be fully educated and licensed to have children. This would also include a full mental exam to weed out people like this.
 

Modelworks

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I would like to say I am shocked but I am not. After seeing people claiming a newborn isn't a person and that infanticide is okay I just shake my head in disgust. These are the same people that if left unchecked will have children that are born premature killed because they are not perfect. How is it we require a license for things like driving a car but nothing for having a child, as if anyone can do it just fine.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...ortion_and_infanticide
In 2005, 90 million women were estimated to be missing in seven Asian countries alone, apparently due to sex-selective abortion

damn what is wrong with people.
 

StageLeft

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fvcking pathetic. These women deserve to be infertile. What pitiful little whiny bitches. The very nature of this problem screams that they are unfit to be mothers. Most people have a preference but joining a message board, support group, getting clinically depressed, damn you suck at life.
 

Adrenaline

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Wow, women can be weird at times. I have a daugter and the day we found out her sex, I wasn't excited as my wife thought I should have been because I wanted a son. Truth was I had worked 12 hours the night before and got no sleep going in to an early doctor's appointment and when I found out I just went to sleep. I was excited but to tired to celebrate.

Girls are awesome !!!
 

Rhonda the Sly

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Why is everyone getting all bent out of shape over this?

I am curious why these people chose to conceive themselves and run a solid risk of having the "unfavored" gender over adoption. Well, okay, I'm not really curious but I would have preferred it if they took that route as it seems much better overall for most everyone. Nutty parent gets the gender they want, child gets a parent, and the system has one less child in it. They're wasting years of their life creating children they just don't care for which seems unproductive.

Time, money, and love aren't infinite. At least, even if they were, you wouldn't be able to experience anything but the potentiality of that yourself. Having any number of unwanted children takes away time, money, and love from the child you do want. It takes time to build a strong bond between family members unless you a) have some sort of obsession or b) love people because of their status (rich, good looking, family, etc). For maximum simplicity and a minimum error rate it would be easiest to just adopt.

I don't want kids at all so perhaps I'm not qualified to comment, but the attitude these women have to their non-preferenced-gender children seems almost criminal.
A bit over the top, no? As long as their not depriving their children of the basic necessities (food, water, shelter), they're good as cream pie in the eyes of the law. It would be nice if they showered their children with love and affection but the law can't define, regulate, or monitor that.

After further reflection, I have more commentary to add. Do you think this is an "always throughout history" thing or a production of the current age?
Not new, people have been disappointed with their children for various reasons for ages. GD itself isn't a disorder as much as it is the result of two forces, gender preference and an actual psychological disorder, running along the same stream.

Just so you know:
I have no children, I want a little girl but would more than willingly take a boy. My mother has a few little girls she adopted and they're as cute as buttons, I want to stuff one or two in my pocket and bolt when I visit her. Anyway... I'm a huge adoption guy and am considering the possibility of adopting a playmate for my child. As far as my own concerns (ability to spend adequate time with my child/children, money) I'd rather only have one kid but from the child's perspective a playmate would be nice.

Decision, decisions... :(
 

StageLeft

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You aren't really thinking of adopting a kid so that your current kid has a playmate are you?

This is not 1820 on a farm and we need a strong boy to help on the farm. These days in our society if you are really this upset over getting the wrong sex kid there is something wrong with you. I imagine these women are the same kind of women who spend 18 months planning a wedding and $30k and then think it was ruined because the color of the napkins was wrong.
 

Genx87

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With the ever increasing rate of Autism in this country. People should be happy their kid is born healthy. Some people are so self centered.
 

PingSpike

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These women are mental defectives. They don't even want a child. What happens when they have a tomboy who doesn't live up to their retarded fantasies? Do they drown her in a bathtub with the rest of their unwanted spawn? They should be sterilized.