GeForce Titan coming end of February

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RussianSensation

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875 (or the 915mhz BSN says ASUS will have) is still pretty impressive, IMO. The lack of information regarding boost may be a good sign that core voltage isn't locked down.

This is interesting. GTX690 vs. Titan side-by-side compared in CL benchmark. The Titan only has 1 specified max GPU clock in that bench.

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Regardless of how amazing the performance is, $900 is simply too high for this card to be anything but a limited edition card. This will end up a technologically impressive, but economically pointless launch. If it does indeed come out at $900, I'm still sticking to my theory that a further cutdown GK110 based Geforce card will be the gtx780.

Definitely possible. 7800GTX 512MB was quickly replaced by a much more reasonably priced 7900GTX that was faster. What else is NV going to do with all the failed GK110 chips that didn't make it into K20/K20X parts? Would be nice to have a 2,496 GTX680 refresh for $499-549.

Probably could pay for one of these by buying four and flipping 3 on Ebay. :ninja:

Have you contacted Canada Computers? I am sure there is a way to pre-order every single Titan card ;). Most of the kids working there are young. Slip them $100-200 over the counter and you'll probably walk out with every Titan in the store on launch date.
 
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Grooveriding

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This is interesting. GTX690 vs. Titan side-by-side compared in OpenCL benchmark. The Titan is missing GPU Boost function in that bench.

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Definitely possible. 7800GTX 512MB was quickly replaced by a much more reasonably priced 7900GTX that was faster.



Have you contacted Canada Computers? I am sure there is a way to preorder every single Titan card. Most of the kids working there are young. Slip them $100 over the counter and you'll probably walk about with every Titan in the store on launch date.

I sometimes buy from their store on College, anything over a few hundred bucks I get from newegg or ncix though. I had to return a DOA 5870 to CC and it was a massive hassle.

I wouldn't do the ebay flip, too lazy to deal with all the shipping and listings. This is looking like a card where you could come out ahead flipping them on ebay though :awe: Even if it didn't pan out, you could certainly recoup your money.
 

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I wouldn't call it 'naughty' if they never signed an NDA, from what I remember. :p

Could be....I thought they had signed one and then broke it and then weren't getting cards from Nvidia anymore and were pissed so were letting everything out of the bag they could get their hands on
 

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Their review of the GTX 680 was released before the NDA.
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/46...b_reference_card_video_card_review/index.html

Since NVIDIA sent us nothing on the GTX 680 codenamed "Kepler" - no press deck, no whitepaper, no conference call information, no sample, no NDA date - absolutely nothing - we're kind of winging it here. Something we don't really like to do. But when I woke up this morning again with no information from NVIDIA, I was just over it and decided to knock this review over straight away as clearly we weren't going to hear anything from them. How is that for professionalism?
 

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Will they build a statue for Rory Read? I mean this guy made the impossible possible: Price increase of 100% over the previous generation. :twisted:
 

RussianSensation

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Will they build a statue for Rory Read? I mean this guy made the impossible possible: Price increase of 100% over the previous generation. :twisted:

$549 / $369 is a 48.78% price increase.

1) Fastest single GPU in the hands of enthusiasts 13 months since launch, delivered at historical NV/ATI price levels (nothing unusual);

2) Paid itself off with bitcoin mining (and still making $);

3) Sufficient 3GB VRAM for mods, something that NV charges for extra on GTX680 4GB;

4) Still superior resale residual/staying value to $499 GTX480, $499 GTX580 or $649 GTX280. 1.5 years since 480 launched it was on sale on Newegg for $175-225. GTX280 launched for $649, 1 month later NV had to drop prices to $499, 9 months later HD4890 matched it for $259 (GTX285 was going for $350 just 9 months after 280 launched); GTX580 was $499 and about 17 months later HD7850 delivered this level of performance for $175 with OC. There is no card in sight for $175 that can beat an HD7970 with OC;

5) Beats the 680 consistently at 1600P and in multi-monitor gaming, including in most demanding PC games (Metro 2033, Crysis 1-2, BF3, DirectCompute titles, etc.)

6) Shipped with enthusiast overclocking features for no extra cost (dual bios switch, voltage unlock).

7) NV is raising the price from $499 of GTX580 to $899 for the Titan (80.16% increase) (this is actually unusual).

8) If AMD didn't raise prices on their products, the higher cost of 28nm wafers would have likely made sure their GPU division lost $ every single quarter in 2012 and 2013. If AMD goes bankrupt, Point #7 becomes $899 ---> $1,499 for flagship NV GPUs or NV releases new generations at a much slower pace, milking minor performance bumps.

9) NV couldn't get GK100/110 out on time last year under any circumstances (Proof: 6 months delay for the entire GTX660Ti and below desktop line, corporate clients like Oak Ridge only started getting deliveries of K20 chips by late Fall 2012 suggesting a huge backlog of Tesla cards from unfulfilled contracts, limited 10K unit launch for Titan in early 2013 ==> means this GK110 Titan chip was unmanufacturable in March 2012).

10) If people thought GTX680 was really mid-range, and NV purposely held back GK110, why did the proceed to give NV $500 of their $ for a mid-range chip and then blame AMD for these prices? A rational consumer would then find both HD7970 and 680 overpriced and skip them entirely assuming they truly believe that both companies are overcharging them. No one put a gun to anyone's head to buy GK104 for $500 or GTX690 for $1K. Since people did, NV knows people will pay those prices, so why lower them? You seem to be placing the high prices 100% as AMD's fault.....NV's consumers had nothing to do with buying mid-range GK104 at $500 you are saying?

11) 8800GTX beat HD2900XT/3870 by about 50%, similar to what the Titan is rumored to beat HD7970GE for. NV priced 8800GTX at $599 though, not $899. You still blaming AMD for letting NV raise the price given a similar differential in performance between 8800GTX and 2900XT/3870? Not logical.

Any questions? :awe:
 
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Grooveriding

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$549 / $369 is a 48.78% price increase.

1) Fastest single GPU in the hands of enthusiasts 13 months since launch;

2) Paid itself off with bitcoin mining;

3) Sufficient 3GB VRAM for mods, something that NV charges for extra on GTX680 4GB;

4) Still superior resale residual/staying value to $499 GTX480, $499 GTX580 or $649 GTX280. 1.5 years since 480 launched it was on sale on Newegg for $175-225. GTX280 launched for $649, 1 month later NV had to drop prices to $499, 9 months later HD4890 matched it for $259; GTX580 was $499 and about 17 months later HD7850 delivered this level of performance for $175 with OC. There is no card in sight for $175 that can beat an HD7970 with OC;

5) Beats the 680 consistently at 1600P and in multi-monitor gaming, including in the vast majority of demanding PC games (Metro 2033, Crysis 1-2, BF3, DirectCompute titles, etc.)

6) Shipped with enthusiast overclocking features for no extra cost (dual bios switch, voltage unlock).

Any questions? :awe:

Don't feed, it will grow.
 

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$549 / $369 is a 48.78% price increase.

1) Fastest single GPU in the hands of enthusiasts 13 months since launch;

2) Paid itself off with bitcoin mining;

3) Sufficient 3GB VRAM for mods, something that NV charges for extra on GTX680 4GB;

4) Still superior resale residual/staying value to $499 GTX480, $499 GTX580 or $649 GTX280. 1.5 years since 480 launched it was on sale on Newegg for $175-225. GTX280 launched for $649, 1 month later NV had to drop prices to $499, 9 months later HD4890 matched it for $259; GTX580 was $499 and about 17 months later HD7850 delivered this level of performance for $175 with OC. There is no card in sight for $175 that can beat an HD7970 with OC;

5) Beats the 680 consistently at 1600P and in multi-monitor gaming, including in the vast majority of demanding PC games (Metro 2033, Crysis 1-2, BF3, DirectCompute titles, etc.)

6) Shipped with enthusiast overclocking features for no extra cost (dual bios switch, voltage unlock).

Any questions? :awe:

u mad bro? :p
 

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Do nVidia Focus Group members get all the new hardware or is it at the discretion of nVidia?
 

n0x1ous

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Do nVidia Focus Group members get all the new hardware or is it at the discretion of nVidia?

I dunno how it works.....I just had a vision in my head of him unboxing the Titan and letting out a big evil genius laugh/grin as he beholds its power and beauty. :awe:
 

RussianSensation

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He wants to see how many times he can take this thread off-topic.
We get it, he's happy with his choice.

Price increases are still relevant since $900 for the Titan seems to be a sticking point.

Irony: "NV fan cries about AMD raising prices and 'allowing' NV to charge $499 for GK104, then proceeds to purchase GK104 anyway in the back of his mind knowing it's still mid-range." <NV collects $500 realizing they can now charge that for a mid-range chip>

Irony 2: "NV fan who buys/skips GK104 deep down realizing it was mid-range GK104 logically realizes the true successor to GF110 is coming next year and he'll probably be charged even more for it, but starts saving up for GK110 anyway. Proceeds to buy the Titan and still complains." <NV collects $900 realizing they can now charge the same or more for Maxwell successor>

Fact: AMD is not involved in this consumer's purchasing decisions. If the consumer is so concerned about NV price gouging, they wouldn't buy these products. People who didn't like HD7970's launched prices waited until prices dropped.

Do nVidia Focus Group members get all the new hardware or is it at the discretion of nVidia?

I wonder if there is a balanced scorecard at year end where these members have to show all the posts and threads they made promoting NV's products. There could be extra bonus points for writing negative reviews of a competitor's products on Newegg, Amazon, etc.
 
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6800 Ultra Extreme, 512MB 7800GTX, 8800GTX Ultra, etc. All of those cards had very limited supply and sold for less than $900.

All of those cards were based off a GPU that had several GeForce sku's though. Only 1 GeForce based titan? Throw away the rest? I don't think so.
 
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I doubt he has one before release, I could be wrong but why would he? It's not like he's going to make an official review. Correct me if I'm wrong. :)
 

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I had one of the first if not first retail GTX480s delivered in the world, the thread is here somewhere. Could I be so lucky with the Titan? :p
 

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I had one of the first if not first retail GTX480s delivered in the world, the thread is here somewhere. Could I be so lucky with the Titan? :p

Depends on if you have been polishing your F5 skills :biggrin:
 

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Is the Titan going to have full DX 11.1 features unlike the rest of Kepler?



To whom is going to tell me that the features are irrelevant, that is not my question.
 

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Is the Titan going to have full DX 11.1 features unlike the rest of Kepler?



To whom is going to tell me that the features are irrelevant, that is not my question.

It's possible GK110 will support the non gaming features of .1, since it's not based on a stripped gaming design.

However it's a bit too soon to know anything that technical just yet.
 
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