GeForce Titan coming end of February

[tweakboy]

Ill wait til Titan 2 Deluxe Platinum comes out then grab a Titan 1 for 400 dollars. Aint spending close to 1k for a video card. IT doesnt make sense. We pay for mobo and cpu 300 dollars. Yet we pay 800 dollars for a video card.

Remember Voodoo and 3dfx or nvidia RIVA tnt etc those cards were below 300 dollars, the top model and what not.

Now 15 years later we pay 800 or 900 for a video card wtf..........

 

[SirPauly]

What if they disabled Kepler boost but re-enabled full voltage control with a fixed GPU clock speed of 875-915mhz? Or maybe the secret sauce is a huge GPU boost with TDP exceeding 235W for power users?

10,000 Titans worldwide sounds like a pretty limited edition card.

Could be 10,000 Titans available at launch!

I don't know, I think GPU boost is very forward thinking, would be very surprised not to see boost with the GK-110. Why would you not offer boost clocks if an application doesn't use all of the TDP?

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Could be 10,000 Titans available at launch!

I don't know, I think GPU boost is very forward thinking, would be very surprised not to see boost with the GK-110. Why would you not offer boost clocks if an application doesn't use all of the TDP?

Agreed, the only problem with boost has been it's inability to work well with user defined voltage.

 

[RussianSensation]

Without a massive price increase this would be a lot more interesting. They are finally able to pass off major price increases and get away with it.

I think NV already passed on price increases before the Titan even dropped. GTX460 768/1GB $199-229 ---> GTX660Ti (mid-range) $299. It's even worse if you consider a GTX680 294mm2 chip a mid-range Kepler. Then you are looking at:

GTX560Ti $249 --> GTX680 $499
GTX580 $499 --> Titan $899

 

[wand3r3r]

I think NV already passed on price increases before the Titan even dropped. GTX460 768/1GB $199-229 ---> GTX660Ti (mid-range) $299. It's even worse if you consider a GTX680 294mm2 chip a mid-range Kepler. Then you are looking at:

GTX560Ti $249 --> GTX680 $499
GTX580 $499 --> Titan $899

Yeah that's what I mean, this generation. Especially the mid-range being sold as high end so they can squeak out the true high end successor for outrageous prices and still sell them. (presuming the to be released dwarf is more than $600)

 

[blackened23]

BSN mentioned that nvidia is making 10,000 cards, and I genuinely think that nvidia doesn't have many chips to sell with respect to the GK110. That is a large factor with the pricing - It's a limited run item. While it doesn't advance performance per dollar, it doesn't really need to since it will be sold in only extremely small quantities.. whereas if they had 5 million of them, there would be a ton of unsold inventory due to the extremely high cost.

 

[sontin]

Every time nVidia is only doing 10.000 cards. Why people still believing these rumors?

 

[biostud]

They can always make more if they sell out.

 

[tviceman]

BSN reports 875mhz GPU clock. If true, most of you here owe tviceman and I beers!

875 (or the 915mhz BSN says ASUS will have) is still pretty impressive, IMO. The lack of information regarding boost may be a good sign that core voltage isn't locked down.

Regardless of how amazing the performance is, $900 is simply too high for this card to be anything but a limited edition card. This will end up a technologically impressive, but economically pointless launch. If it does indeed come out at $900, I'm still sticking to my theory that a further cutdown GK110 based Geforce card will be the gtx780.

 

[wand3r3r]

875 (or the 915mhz BSN says ASUS will have) is still pretty impressive, IMO. The lack of information regarding boost may be a good sign that core voltage isn't locked down.

Regardless of how amazing the performance is, $900 is simply too high for this card to be anything but a limited edition card. This will end up a technologically impressive, but economically pointless launch. If it does indeed come out at $900, I'm still sticking to my theory that a further cutdown GK110 based Geforce card will be the gtx780.

A plausible theory.

GTX 680
mid-range 560 TI successor => 30% faster then GTX 580
GTX 780
I don't know if they can develop the GK110 successor (true high end) by the end of the year or H1 2014. That sounds plausible that it could either be 1. a slightly cut down titan (a few failed parts) or 2. The 680 refined.

Either way it could possibly be another very minor upgrade unless AMD forces them (fast 8970) to put some effort into the 780 at least judging by the way they are trying to raise the mid range into the high end slot.

 

[tviceman]

BSN mentioned that nvidia is making 10,000 cards, and I genuinely think that nvidia doesn't have many chips to sell with respect to the GK110. That is a large factor with the pricing - It's a limited run item. While it doesn't advance performance per dollar, it doesn't really need to since it will be sold in only extremely small quantities.. whereas if they had 5 million of them, there would be a ton of unsold inventory due to the extremely high cost.

Then why even release this card at all? 10,000 @ $900 is only $9 million in revenue divided up between Nvidia, the AIB's, etailers, and UPS. It's monetarily pointless and investors really don't give a rats a$$ who has the best and fastest. Investors only care about revenue, profits, and future outlook. It does not make sense to run a super small limited edition product unless it's just an incredibly demanding bin to reach the speeds it's running at within the given TDP, but in that case there will be a gazillion other GK110 chips that will need to have fused off SMX's and sold as quadro's and geforces.

 

[Tweak155]

I agree that $900 is too high. $700 or lower and I'll bite, and I never buy top of the line stuff.... probably because it comes out too high

 

[blackened23]

Then why even release this card at all? 10,000 @ $900 is only $9 million in revenue divided up between Nvidia, the AIB's, etailers, and UPS. It's monetarily pointless and investors really don't give a rats a$$ who has the best and fastest. Investors only care about revenue, profits, and future outlook. It does not make sense to run a super small limited edition product unless it's just an incredibly demanding bin to reach the speeds it's running at within the given TDP, but in that case there will be a gazillion other GK110 chips that will need to have fused off SMX's and sold as quadro's and geforces.

So here's my question. Why does BSN state, according to his sources (and he DOES know people within the AIB industry - make no mistake) that only 10,000 are being made?

Why are only Asus and EVGA creating cards?
Why is it a paper launch?

If you ask these questions and think logically while putting aside any brand preference, the logical answer is that nvidia doesn't have a great deal of chips to sell. If it were a wide release, more than asus and EVGA would be releasing them. And I should add again that BSN has contacts within several AIB makers - and while it is possible that he is wrong, the evidence indicates otherwise. I'm not saying this to detract from nvidia, don't get me wrong: I'm really impressed by Titan in terms of performance (price? not so much..) - however as I said....While I could be wrong -- evidence indicates limited run, few chips.

 

[Piroko]

Nvidia has released countless Halo cards with limited numbers before, the last one being GTX590. Also, at the 900$ price point I would think that 10.000 cards isn't considered a small lot. Ferrari only ever built 400 Enzos and that was enough supply for 2 years at its crazy price point.

 

[n0x1ous]

So here's my question. Why does BSN state, according to his sources (and he DOES know people within the AIB industry - make no mistake) that only 10,000 are being made?

Why are only Asus and EVGA creating cards?
Why is it a paper launch?

If you ask these questions and think logically while putting aside any brand preference, the logical answer is that nvidia doesn't have a great deal of chips to sell. If it were a wide release, more than asus and EVGA would be releasing them. And I should add again that BSN has contacts within several AIB makers - and while it is possible that he is wrong, the evidence indicates otherwise. I'm not saying this to detract from nvidia, don't get me wrong: I'm really impressed by Titan in terms of performance (price? not so much..) - however as I said....evidence indicates limited run, few chips.

If you are basing it on the AIB then would assume availability will be similar to 690 since thats also only ASUS and EVGA (USA)

I think at the price the Titan is going to be the supply and demand will work out ok.

IF its a paper launch, then likely to get the reviews out for Crysis 3 and/or PS4 spoiler

 

[blackened23]

Nvidia has released countless Halo cards with limited numbers before, the last one being GTX590. Also, at the 900$ price point I would think that 10.000 cards isn't considered a small lot. Ferrari only ever built 400 Enzos and that was enough supply for 2 years at its crazy price point.

Precisely. GTX 690 was a high volume part in the same price range - with every AIB maker on the planet releasing it, and it sold very well. Titan in terms of numbers isn't being released on the same scale, maybe that will change in the future.

 

[blackened23]

If you are basing it on the AIB then would assume availability will be similar to 690 since thats also only ASUS and EVGA (USA)

I think at the price the Titan is going to be the supply and demand will work out ok.

You are wrong. Every AIB maker released GTX 690 cards including Gigabyte, MSI, and countless others. Traditionally Gigabyte and MSI have better distribution and mindshare in Europe/Asia, but there are plenty of non EVGA/ASUS GTX 690 cards.

 

[Grooveriding]

Probably could pay for one of these by buying four and flipping 3 on Ebay. :ninja:

 

[n0x1ous]

You are wrong. Every AIB maker released GTX 690 cards including Gigabyte, MSI, and countless others. Traditionally Gigabyte and MSI have better distribution and mindshare in Europe/Asia, but there are plenty of non EVGA/ASUS GTX 690 cards.

Perhaps you missed my (USA) mention. only EVGA and ASUS in USA. GB, mSI 690's not in USA.

Titan will probalby be similar.

 

[boxleitnerb]

There's a thought...

 

[blackened23]

Perhaps your missed my (USA) mention. only EVGA and ASUS in USA. GB, mSI 690's not in USA.

Titan will probalby be similar.

Yeah, I missed that - that could be the case. Hopefully the 18th will shed light on the entire situation.

What was that one website that always managed to get review cards before everyone else (and disobeyed NDA??) I wonder if they'll manage to snag a Titan.

 

[Elfear]

Then why even release this card at all? 10,000 @ $900 is only $9 million in revenue divided up between Nvidia, the AIB's, etailers, and UPS. It's monetarily pointless and investors really don't give a rats a$$ who has the best and fastest. Investors only care about revenue, profits, and future outlook. It does not make sense to run a super small limited edition product unless it's just an incredibly demanding bin to reach the speeds it's running at within the given TDP, but in that case there will be a gazillion other GK110 chips that will need to have fused off SMX's and sold as quadro's and geforces.

6800 Ultra Extreme, 512MB 7800GTX, 8800GTX Ultra, etc. All of those cards had very limited supply and sold for less than $900.

 

[n0x1ous]

Yeah, I missed that - that could be the case. Hopefully the 18th will shed light on the entire situation.

What was that one website that always managed to get review cards before everyone else (and disobeyed NDA??) I wonder if they'll manage to snag a Titan.

I think that is Tweaktown who have been naughty with Nvidia NDAs lately, but I could be mistaken.

 

[ocre]

There is no doubt in my mind that the titan will be launching in limited supplies. They have only just began shipping their major tesla orders. The gk110 is a huge chip. I dont expect they have stock piles of them laying around. Especially when market analyst have predicted tesla revenue to be higher than they originally thought.

Saying that, i also dont buy there will only be 10,000 ever made. I believe this will be a very limited hard to get card after it launches but i expect in time production will come up. I have a feeling titan will be selling along with the gtx780 series as the elite flagship. No way 10,000 is all that will ever be produced.

But, yea. Titan will be launching in limited quantities. The pricing will most likely be high. Hopefully overtime they will become more available.

 

[Crap Daddy]

K20X costs anywhere between 5000 and 8000$.