GeForce GTX 480 Box Shot

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ViRGE

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Wait, something else! It has two DVI ports and a mini-HDMI!

That could mean single-card 3-D surround?
Doubtful. If AT's GF100 article was correct, a single card doesn't have the ability to drive 3 displays at once regardless of the ports used.
 

n7

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Doubtful. If AT's GF100 article was correct, a single card doesn't have the ability to drive 3 displays at once regardless of the ports used.

Ugh.

Don't give a crap about 3D, but no three displays is fail.
I wouldn't likely run Eyefinity w/ a 5800 card, but i definitely like being able to use three display simultaneously.
 

LOUISSSSS

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All the main features are crappy nvidia propietary features. once you look past those crappy features you get nothing more than an ordinary video card. Piece of crap from NV for the 3rd time in a row. might as well rebrand the 8800gtx and sell it as the 48800gtx

No need to thread crap. -Admin DrPizza
 
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Acanthus

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All the main features are crappy nvidia propietary features. once you look past those crappy features you get nothing more than an ordinary video card. Piece of crap from NV for the 3rd time in a row. might as well rebrand the 8800gtx and sell it as the 48800gtx

Aside from the giant performance leap... of course.
 

SmCaudata

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Why the whining about needing 42 amps on the +12V rail? You understand this is a system wide recommendation, right? Just like the 600W recommendation is also a system wide suggestion, right?

If you think you need 42A on one rail just to supply the video card, that'd be just over 500W, just for the card.

I think most understand this. The issue is that while other PC components and ATI video cards are getting MORE efficient, this one uses more power than it's predecessor on a 40nm technology. That's the issue for me anyway.
 

Borealis7

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this looks like another 8800GTX in every aspect. performance (remains to be seen), price, power consumption...did i say price?
 

Will Robinson

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So it takes a minimum of 600W and a very strong single rail to run this thing....and then you've got to run YOUR WHOLE COMPUTER as well ?
No...that's not a step in the right direction.
No Display Port...that's freakin lame.It works great and is superior to DVI.
Its like comparing USB to a ribbon cable.
 

toyota

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So it takes a minimum of 600W and a very strong single rail to run this thing....and then you've got to run YOUR WHOLE COMPUTER as well ?
No...that's not a step in the right direction.
No Display Port...that's freakin lame.It works great and is superior to DVI.
Its like comparing USB to a ribbon cable.
are you seriously thinking that 600 watts is just for the card?
 

ExcaliburMM

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You have to admit guys, NV is pretty amazing. In the past, all they needed to come up with an entirely new GPU line were 2 boxes: One filled with last generation GPUs, the other filled with markers and pretty stickers. Who needs engineers/R&D/manufacturing departments? :p

On topic wise, the odd memory amount is just that -- odd. It may be power hungry but certainly no more than a GTX280 was at the time. Although with high end cards I think efficiency is secondary to performance no? Or am I missing the point of those 400$+ a pop cards?

The fact is this is good for everyone. NV, ATI, and their fan boys. Competition means competitive pricing, and as soon as the first reviews and retail samples hit the web we can expect the price war to start. That's what I'm banking on, because when the mid and lower end Fermis come out, I'd love to get some top brand 5770s to crossfire for under 250$. Hell, I may get 3, unless Fermi offers a nice alternative.
 
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Keysplayr

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Most of you probably forgot this, but for GTX 280 two years ago Nvidia stated in their reviewer’s guide “For a single GeForce GTX 280 GPU, a 550-watt power supply unit with 40A on the 12V rail is required at minimum.”
 

Kuzi

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600W PSU is fine, what is important is the performance of the cards, and at what cost. Hopefully we'll find out in a few weeks :)
 

dug777

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Most of you probably forgot this, but for GTX 280 two years ago Nvidia stated in their reviewer’s guide “For a single GeForce GTX 280 GPU, a 550-watt power supply unit with 40A on the 12V rail is required at minimum.”

I have no idea how valid the following extrapolation is, but it's fun to speculate :)

At the time, Anand said that:

You'll need a power supply that can deliver up to 236W for the card itself and you'll need both a 6-pin and an 8-pin PCIe power connector (the board won't work with two 6-pin connectors).

I presume that figure came from nvidia's reviewer's guide, and applies to a stock reference GTX 280.

So if we extrapolate from that example, the stock reference GTX 480 is looking at somewhere around 260W...that would be a maximum 'possible' power draw of course.

Anand lists the stock reference 5870 TDP as 188W for comparison's purposes.

My only observation is that it looks like will be quite the feat to get two of them on a single PCB or in a sandwich below 300W without some pretty servere neutering...
 
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SlowSpyder

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Some members here keep saying how much money Nvidia has in the bank, how much money they make as a business. But, in September 2009 AMD was able to release it's first 40nm next gen DX11 part, here we are now in March 2010 and all we have a picture of a box for Nvidia's part.

I just have a feeling we're seeing the return of the FX5800 / Radeon 2900XT. A late part that uses too much power and fails to impress. In this case though, I'll bet that the GTX480 will be a bit faster then the 5870, but I doubt by a whole lot. Just my $.02
 

Genx87

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It is so amusing watching the same complaints\arguments before every Nvidia launch. Stop with the faux outrage over power requirements.
 

Genx87

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Some members here keep saying how much money Nvidia has in the bank, how much money they make as a business. But, in September 2009 AMD was able to release it's first 40nm next gen DX11 part, here we are now in March 2010 and all we have a picture of a box for Nvidia's part.

I just have a feeling we're seeing the return of the FX5800 / Radeon 2900XT. A late part that uses too much power and fails to impress. In this case though, I'll bet that the GTX480 will be a bit faster then the 5870, but I doubt by a whole lot. Just my $.02

If the 480 is faster than the ATI part then Nvidia is actually doing better than the 5800 release. And lets face it. With some people Nvidia cant impress.
 

dug777

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It is so amusing watching the same complaints\arguments before every Nvidia launch. Stop with the faux outrage over power requirements.

I certainly wasn't expressing any outrage, faux or otherwise.
 

SlowSpyder

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If the 480 is faster than the ATI part then Nvidia is actually doing better than the 5800 release. And lets face it. With some people Nvidia cant impress.

Define 'better'? Better at the high end? Better engineering? Better release? How exactly would Nvidia be doing 'better' if they release a part 6 months after the competition that wil give you 74FPS vs. 70FPS?

If it's faster by a good margin, you could make that arguement. But if it is just 5% faster, than I doubt very much that it'll sway any 58xx owners.
 

solofly

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So it takes a minimum of 600W and a very strong single rail to run this thing....

Nearly half of that 600 watts will be consumed by just one nvidia GPU...

Someone said you'll be looking at around 850 watts minimum for two of these...
 
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Genx87

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Define 'better'? Better at the high end? Better engineering? Better release? How exactly would Nvidia be doing 'better' if they release a part 6 months after the competition that wil give you 74FPS vs. 70FPS?

If it's faster by a good margin, you could make that arguement. But if it is just 5% faster, than I doubt very much that it'll sway any 58xx owners.

When the FX 5800 released the ATI part got 70fps and the 5800 got 60. If Nvidia's 480 gets 74 and the 5870 gets 70. Then Nvidia is in a better position than they were during the 5800 debacle.
 

SlowSpyder

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When the FX 5800 released the ATI part got 70fps and the 5800 got 60. If Nvidia's 480 gets 74 and the 5870 gets 70. Then Nvidia is in a better position than they were during the 5800 debacle.

I don't necessarily agree. All that means is that they'd have a high end part that is slightly faster than a 5870. AMD has a complete line of DX11 parts out, and they have them readily available. If Nvidia can win a few benchmarks against the 5870, they're still slower than the 5970. What is Nvidia competing with at $150? $200? $275?

If Fermi comes out and gives you 5% more performance than a 5870, I don't see them in doing better, at least not yet. And we're assuming that e-tailers will have them in stock past the launch day, which I'm guessing isn't likely.