GeForce GTX 1180, 1170 and 1160 coming in August. Prices inside

[sze5003]

If these are gonna go for $750 to $800 this means the Ti models will probably go for close to 1k or more depending on the AIB options. Not looking forward to when I have to drop that amount.

 

[rchunter]

Whatever the price I pretty much have to pay it unfortunately. My gtx 1080 just isn't cutting it anymore since buying a 4k monitor. Trying to hold out till the new cards are released though. I don't want to have to buy a 1080ti so late in the game when new cards are right around the corner..

 

[sze5003]

Whatever the price I pretty much have to pay it unfortunately. My gtx 1080 just isn't cutting it anymore since buying a 4k monitor. Trying to hold out till the new cards are released though. I don't want to have to buy a 1080ti so late in the game when new cards are right around the corner..

Yea it's better to wait. I don't have plans to go to a 4k monitor as I mainly use my 1080ti for a military flight sim in VR and my 1440p monitor is fine for PC gaming for now. Im glad I chose the Ti though, I've gotten so used to just cranking settings in every game and not worrying. It also has lasted me long enough to not worry until the next model is out. I'm just not digging the prices with all the previous miner surge.

 

[wilds]

Whatever the price I pretty much have to pay it unfortunately. My gtx 1080 just isn't cutting it anymore since buying a 4k monitor. Trying to hold out till the new cards are released though. I don't want to have to buy a 1080ti so late in the game when new cards are right around the corner..

what games are you running at 4k that your 1080 is struggling on?

 

[rchunter]

what games are you running at 4k that your 1080 is struggling on?

Battlefield 1 mainly it has a lot of trouble. I've put everything down to high settings, dx11, no AA and it helps.
I really don't play a huge amount of games but i'd like higher frame rates if possible on the ones I do play. Just waiting on the new cards to show up.

 

[happy medium]

If these are gonna go for $750 to $800 this means the Ti models will probably go for close to 1k or more depending on the AIB options. Not looking forward to when I have to drop that amount.

No , you need to remember the 2080ti will come out 8 months later at which time the 2080 gets a price drop and the ti usually is released about $50 more than the 2080. It Will not be $1000. I would say,more like $799 for the founders and $750 for the AIB cards.

The gtx2080 should be $50 more than the 1180 was , so about $750 for the founders edition and $650 for the AIB cards.
Release price for the 1080 was $699/$599 , and received a $100 price cut when the 1080ti was released To $499.

Going by history Nvidia has been charging about $50 more or so every 2 years.

In 2008 the 280gtx released at $650 , I dont see why the gtx2080 which is 9x faster is a bad deal at $700.

 

[sze5003]

Yea I'm fine with spending the same amount I did last year for the 1080ti. As long as it doesn't get too up there. I just like having the latest model.

 

[amenx]

In 2008 the 280gtx released at $650 , I dont see why the gtx2080 which is 9x faster is a bad deal at $700.

And 3-4 weeks later they dropped it to $499 (and the gtx260 to $299). All in response to AMD releasing the 4870 and 4850 cards after a virtual 2 year absence from having anything worthwhile.

https://www.cnet.com/news/nvidia-cuts-prices-on-gtx-260-280-graphics-boards/

Pricing is all about competition.

 

[happy medium]

And 3-4 weeks later they dropped it to $499 (and the gtx260 to $299). All in response to AMD releasing the 4870 and 4850 cards after a virtual 2 year absence from having anything worthwhile.

https://www.cnet.com/news/nvidia-cuts-prices-on-gtx-260-280-graphics-boards/

Pricing is all about competition.

There was no competition for the gtx1080 and it launched only $50 more than the gtx980.
It's not all about competition, its also about what price people will pay for what tier of performance.

 

[CakeMonster]

No , you need to remember the 2080ti will come out 8 months later

Why 8 months? It is in their interest to make it 10-15, which has been the yearly release schedule for quite a while now.

 

[happy medium]

Why 8 months? It is in their interest to make it 10-15, which has been the yearly release schedule for quite a while now.

2080Ti releases about 8 months after the gtx2080 line.

 

[CakeMonster]

Do you have confirmed info on the 2080 line or do you base that on history?

 

[amenx]

Nothing is absolute. Just because the last Ti was released 8 months after doesnt mean its a formula set in stone.

 

[NTMBK]

I cant afford $700-$800 right now but I could probably swing the price of an GTX 1160 if its cheap enough. What are we looking at as far as increases goes?? Also what will the memory amount be on these cards??

If you're that strapped for cash, blowing it on a minor upgrade seems silly. I doubt the 1160 will be that big an improvement, they're still 12nm cards after all. Save your cash, wait for the 7nm GPUs- that will be a big improvement!

 

[Mopetar]

I would need to live like a heremit for 2 months eating only boiled rice for two months to be able to afford one.

Look on the bright side. This means you only need to eat rice for four months and you can get two cards to run in SLI.

 

[DooKey]

Nothing is absolute. Just because the last Ti was released 8 months after doesnt mean its a formula set in stone.

I'm not so sure we'll see a Ti on the 12nm node. I think the x80, x70, x60 are just to get NV through to 7nm and then we'll see a full line of GPUs including a new Titan and Ti. I predict June/July 2019 release for NV 7nm line.

 

[crisium]

1080 was released May 27 2016 and the 1080 Ti was released March 5 2017. That's 9.3 months. Vega 64 didn't come out for a while after this and didn't even compete on performance, but maybe Nvidia believed the hype too much.

980 to 980 Ti was about 8.5 months. It only beat the Fury X by a month though, so it very much could have been tied to competition.

680 to 780 was a full 14 months. And it beat the 290X to launch by 5 months. They waited a long time due to lack of a competition, and even then it was a 25% cut (more than any x100 or x102 has received since). The real 780 Ti was tied to the 290X launch date.

But the thing is, 680 was fast enough for 580 users to consider upgrading to (many did). 2080 is not gonna persuade legions of 1080 Ti users to upgrade (based on tenable rumours). And very few will pursue a $3000 Titan V CEO rebrand.

Nvidia wants their 1080 Ti users to pay another $700-$900 for a replacement GPU. Are they gonna sell a cut down GP100 for that price? Create a new X102? Or just wait until 7nm? We'll see. But if the 2080 is an unworthy upgrade to the 1080 Ti then I'd expect a 2080 Ti around 9 months later.

 

[tviceman]

No , you need to remember the 2080ti will come out 8 months later at which time the 2080 gets a price drop and the ti usually is released about $50 more than the 2080. It Will not be $1000. I would say,more like $799 for the founders and $750 for the AIB cards.

The gtx2080 should be $50 more than the 1180 was , so about $750 for the founders edition and $650 for the AIB cards.
Release price for the 1080 was $699/$599 , and received a $100 price cut when the 1080ti was released To $499.

Going by history Nvidia has been charging about $50 more or so every 2 years.

In 2008 the 280gtx released at $650 , I dont see why the gtx2080 which is 9x faster is a bad deal at $700.

My guess is with the backlash that the founders edition cards received, there will not be a "FE" pricing tier. It's just going to be one price across the board and it'll either be $649 or $699 for the GTX 2080 and either $449-$499 for the GTX 2070.

 

[PeterScott]

My guess is with the backlash that the founders edition cards received, there will not be a "FE" pricing tier. It's just going to be one price across the board and it'll either be $649 or $699 for the GTX 2080 and either $449-$499 for the GTX 2070.

Grumble, Grumble, ... Take my Money!

Is not an effective backlash.

NVidia doesn't care about grumbling, they only care about lost sales. So they will price it to what the market will bear.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

If you're that strapped for cash, blowing it on a minor upgrade seems silly. I doubt the 1160 will be that big an improvement, they're still 12nm cards after all. Save your cash, wait for the 7nm GPUs- that will be a big improvement!

I dont know if this is true or not because the jump from GTX960 to GTX1060 was huge. I have seen almost double performance jump at times going from the 960 card to the 1060 card. So I am Hoping its going to be like that this time around as well going from 1060 to 1160/2060.
As for a upgrade I have already upgraded to 2700x with a Gigabyte X470 gaming 7 motherboard and went from 16GB of DDR4 2400 to 32GB of DDR4 3200 for my Gaming/HTPC. I have just been to lazy to update my sig.
I also bought a used 1950x and a Gigabyte Gaming 7 x399 motherboard and use that for video and audio editing only.
Temps are to much of an issue right now even with running my fans full blast using a Noctua air cooler..
Well really I should say temps are an issue when hammering my cpu cause when its idle or doing minor things it stay cool as a cucumber.
Anyways I guess I like to have the latest and greatest, I just hate the pricing of parts these days.

 

[NTMBK]

I dont know if this is true or not because the jump from GTX960 to GTX1060 was huge. I have seen almost double performance jump at times going from the 960 card to the 1060 card. So I am Hoping its going to be like that this time around as well going from 1060 to 1160/2060.
As for a upgrade I have already upgraded to 2700x with a Gigabyte X470 gaming 7 motherboard and went from 16GB of DDR4 2400 to 32GB of DDR4 3200 for my Gaming/HTPC. I have just been to lazy to update my sig.
I also bought a used 1950x and a Gigabyte Gaming 7 x399 motherboard and use that for video and audio editing only.
Temps are to much of an issue right now even with running my fans full blast using a Noctua air cooler..
Well really I should say temps are an issue when hammering my cpu cause when its idle or doing minor things it stay cool as a cucumber.
Anyways I guess I like to have the latest and greatest, I just hate the pricing of parts these days.

960 to 1060 was a jump all the way from 28nm to 16nm- biggest change in GPU transistor tech in years. Whereas this is a change from 16nm to a slightly tweaked version of 16nm (12nm). There's going to be some power efficiency/frequency improvements, and some architecture improvements, but don't expect a jump as big as the one from 960 to 1060.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

960 to 1060 was a jump all the way from 28nm to 16nm- biggest change in GPU transistor tech in years. Whereas this is a change from 16nm to a slightly tweaked version of 16nm (12nm). There's going to be some power efficiency/frequency improvements, and some architecture improvements, but don't expect a jump as big as the one from 960 to 1060.

Well If need be I will try my darndest to jump up to the next tier to the 1170/2070 if I can swing it and the prices are right.
Also looking at possibly buying current gen GTX 1080 or Ti if prices fall far enough.
At one point maybe a week or 2 ago I was even considering puchasing a Vega 64 but the heat issues and lots of reports from reviewers saying there cards died shortly after purchase got me extremely freaked and I quickly changed my mind and decided I will just stick to Nvidia for the time being. Only real reason I havent purchased a GTX 1080 or Ti is the updated goodies coming to the 11xx/20xx series of cards like ray tracing and the possibility of playing games natively in 4k.Well that and the bump in IPC and the lowering of TDP..

 

[LTC8K6]

Grumble, Grumble, ... Take my Money!

Is not an effective backlash.

NVidia doesn't care about grumbling, they only care about lost sales. So they will price it to what the market will bear.

This.

The backlash was strictly vaporware. When the cards went on sale, fists full of cash and credit cards came flying out of pockets.

 

[DigDog]

How is it that Nv manages to fabricate at 7nm and Intel struggles with 10nm (answer like im a moron please)?

 

[PeterScott]

How is it that Nv manages to fabricate at 7nm and Intel struggles with 10nm (answer like im a moron please)?

All signs point to NVidia next generation launching at 12nm, not 7nm.