Geforce GTX 1060 Thread: faster than RX 480, 120W, $249

[redzo]

O course it has.
Remember the gtx770 ...

 

[geoxile]

Once prices and supply settle to what they are supposed to be, and we have good AIB selection, this is gonna be a great time for the mainstream 1080p gaming market.

$200 RX 480 4GB
$250 GTX 1060 6GB
(The $240 RX 480 8GB will be left in an awkward spot once prices settle)

290X/780Ti performance for $200. 980/390X performance for $250. Definitely not game over for the 480, since a $50 price increase is not insignificant to those with a tight budget especially when it's a 25% increase. Both cards seem very viable at these two price points, although historically neither are impressive and both look to lag behind the 1070 by quite a lot leaving room for another card.

Didn't Gibbo say that they won't be producing any more 4GB 480s?

 

[shabby]

- Inno3D

www.computerbase.de/2016-07/geforce-gtx-1060-gigabyte-inno3d-msi/

Sli?

 

[Noctifer616]

Didn't Gibbo say that they won't be producing any more 4GB 480s?

Wasn't this only regarding reference boards? Didn't he actually manage to get Sapphire to get them more 4GB version since they are a big shop in the UK?

 

[MrTeal]

There is a 1070 on newegg right now for $399, I'd consider that 'pretty close' to $379 MSRP.

I'd prob take a $269 1060 over $239 480.

Remember the 480 is slower than the 980 that the 1060 is supposedly going to perform at.

Really, the <$400 1070's right now are similar to the <$200 4GB 480's. Yes, they exist, and yes, some people have bought them. Availability on them is so sparse though that they almost don't factor in. If you want a 1070 you're going to spend $420 or more on it right now, and if you want a RX 480 it's going to cost you at least $240.

 

[boozzer]

did the thread title just changed???

 

[desura]

The power efficiency improvements save like 1/4 the electricity under load.

If you game for say 500 hours in a year, that's about a 15 KWH savings. Multiply by 12 cents...

 

[DiogoDX]

Glad to see 48 ROPs in a mainstream card.:thumbsup:


This card will beat he 480 in some games only due to the massive filrate diference, even with 192bits.

 

[LTC8K6]

Sli?

Yep, looks like it.

 

[boozzer]

The power efficiency improvements save like 1/4 the electricity under load.

If you game for say 500 hours in a year, that's about a 15 KWH savings. Multiply by 12 cents...

Don't ruin their dreams bro.

 

[mohit9206]

I know this is the gtx 1060 thread but i want to ask what would you guys prefer between these two options
1. Gtx 1050 with 128 bit bus and 4gb gddr5 memory.
2. Gtx 1050 with 192 bit bus and 3gb gddr5 memory.
I have no idea what option Nvidia will go for but I'd personally choose more vram.

 

[R0H1T]

I know this is the gtx 1060 thread but i want to ask what would you guys prefer between these two options
1. Gtx 1050 with 128 bit bus and 4gb gddr5 memory.
2. Gtx 1050 with 192 bit bus and 3gb gddr5 memory.
I have no idea what option Nvidia will go for but I'd personally choose more vram.

There will not be a 1050 with 3GB VRAM, just 2/4GB IIRC, also extra VRAM is always preferable, the more the merrier.

 

[USER8000]

Wasn't this only regarding reference boards? Didn't he actually manage to get Sapphire to get them more 4GB version since they are a big shop in the UK?

I think he confirmed more would be coming and Ebuyer in the UK have the 4GB models on pre-order for £174.

This was also seen on the Sapphire website too:

http://videocardz.com/61897/amd-radeon-rx-400-news-polaris-bios-editor-sapphire-rx-400-series

 

[zinfamous]

Don't ruin their dreams bro.

I don't think direct savings related to card power draw is the best metric for this (outside of pure 24/7 mining purposes).

less power draw = less heat. On your card and in your room. In the summer, my 280x easily heats my bedroom about ~2-3 degrees above the space outside the room...which is damn crazy (I haven't measured, but I'm definitely hit with a "wall of heat" when I walk into that room after it has been running for about 2 hours...so I go by feels).

Consequently, if you are putting that much heat into a space with a thermostat (I'm not), I imagine that this will keep your AC on much longer than necessary and drive further power costs not directly tied to the card.

Oh, and there is the greater performance/clocking potential with less power draw, no?

 

[AnandThenMan]

did the thread title just changed???

Many times I've lost count.

 

[Glo.]

I think he confirmed more would be coming and Ebuyer in the UK have the 4GB models on pre-order for £174.

This was also seen on the Sapphire website too:

http://videocardz.com/61897/amd-radeon-rx-400-news-polaris-bios-editor-sapphire-rx-400-series

It is an error. When you will type in 21260-00 number that pops after RX 490 into google you will find this:
https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-PCI-Express-Graphics-21260-00-20G/dp/B01GTYIEG2

 

[Yakk]

I predict that supply of this card is going to be crap for a long while, and thus prices will remain inflated. nVidia can't even keep up with the smaller demand for the higher-end cards, and it seems likely they pulled this launch forward because of the RX480. If availability of the 1060 looks anything like the 1070/1080, there will be no stock anywhere for this higher-demand market segment.

I would say that is a pretty safe prediction.

 

[boozzer]

I don't think direct savings related to card power draw is the best metric for this (outside of pure 24/7 mining purposes).

less power draw = less heat. On your card and in your room. In the summer, my 280x easily heats my bedroom about ~2-3 degrees above the space outside the room...which is damn crazy (I haven't measured, but I'm definitely hit with a "wall of heat" when I walk into that room after it has been running for about 2 hours...so I go by feels).

Consequently, if you are putting that much heat into a space with a thermostat (I'm not), I imagine that this will keep your AC on much longer than necessary and drive further power costs not directly tied to the card.

Oh, and there is the greater performance/clocking potential with less power draw, no?

that is pretty crazy if you can feel the temp changes. I guess it is a 200 watt space heater but then how much can you feel between the power draw differences of 480 n 1060? 0.5 degrees? or less? that is already 100% in the territory of margin of error.

OC potential would have to wait for benchmarks. lower power draw helps for sure, as that was one of the main things why 480's public perception took a 180.

 

[desura]

I don't think direct savings related to card power draw is the best metric for this (outside of pure 24/7 mining purposes).

less power draw = less heat. On your card and in your room. In the summer, my 280x easily heats my bedroom about ~2-3 degrees above the space outside the room...which is damn crazy (I haven't measured, but I'm definitely hit with a "wall of heat" when I walk into that room after it has been running for about 2 hours...so I go by feels).

Consequently, if you are putting that much heat into a space with a thermostat (I'm not), I imagine that this will keep your AC on much longer than necessary and drive further power costs not directly tied to the card.

Oh, and there is the greater performance/clocking potential with less power draw, no?

Inversely, I think that winter is peak gaming time, and summer is for outdoors activities. So heating is desirable.

And even when I game in summer it is usually after dark.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Msrp $249 releases card at $299...

And people defend this practice? You guys don't like money?

Amd should have released the 480 with a $150 msrp then just sold them for $200.

No wonder I quit buying nvidia cards.

 

[caswow]

Many die shots here:

www.chiphell.com/thread-1614307-1-1.html

Can anyone estimate the die size?

~216mm²

 

[boozzer]

Inversely, I think that winter is peak gaming time, and summer is for outdoors activities. So heating is desirable.

And even when I game in summer it is usually after dark.

that is actually a really good point, winter cancels out summer

 

[sze5003]

Msrp $249 releases card at $299...

And people defend this practice? You guys don't like money?

Amd should have released the 480 with a $150 msrp then just sold them for $200.

No wonder I quit buying nvidia cards.

The $299 is the entry consumer FE prices. The $249 will most likely never exist as why would AIB cost that much when usually they are more? $30-40 for the cooler and different design will cost more.

If 1070 never sold for less than FE prices anyway until the gigabyte model came out, the same thing can apply here.

$299 and up is what the AIB models will cost.

 

[Midwayman]

Inversely, I think that winter is peak gaming time, and summer is for outdoors activities. So heating is desirable.

And even when I game in summer it is usually after dark.

I always feel like efficiency is what people talk about when they have lost the value and/or performance argument. If someone came out with a 600W GPU for $300 that beat the 1080, I'd be all over it.

 

[Erenhardt]

Msrp $249 releases card at $299...

And people defend this practice? You guys don't like money?

Amd should have released the 480 with a $150 msrp then just sold them for $200.

No wonder I quit buying nvidia cards.

Me thinks rx 480 should have $1 MSRP and sell them at whatever they decide is good at the time... LOL
Imagine those TPU perf/$ charts... to da m00n!